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Okay, not refusal, but rather failure to provide the Bestätigung in a timely fashion. However, I'm sure I'm not exempt from the 14 day Anmeldungsfrist simply because it's holiday season. So to remain in everyone's good graces, should I perhaps just get a new appointment in, say, 2 weeks? (I remember reading somewhere that you just need to have an appointment booked by the 2nd week, and that should be fine) Or simply go to the appointment I already have tomorrow and explain that the tenant and landlord are currently on vacation?

The advice by @jeba seems sound, I'll definitely inform the Behörde about refusal to provide the Bestätigung. Digging around it seems the Wohnungsgeber would be subject to a fine, but in practical terms what would that mean for my current stay here? I've paid rent and deposit, is it likely I'll be kicked out, in the very least in the bad graces of the landlord? (even if they should know better) Am I still responsible to annoy the landlord further, or will the authorities take over from then on?

What? Edit: just realized I posted this twice, technical error. Sorry!

I recently moved into a two month Zwischenmiete/Untermiete, contract signed and all that. The main tenant 'A' I signed the contract with promised a Wohnungsgeberbestätigung for the purposes of registration, but said the landlord 'B' would provide it and gave me his email address. Well I emailed him (twice), and ten days later since moving in, and with an appointment at the Behörde for Anmeldung next week I still haven't heard back.    'A' has been made aware of this and says if I don't hear from 'B' she'll provide the Bestätigung (which from what I understand is her responsibility anyway). However, she's on vacation until the end of month apparently and I suspect she'll only be willing to email me a scanned Bestätigung (which is not valid?).   Just wanted to inquire about my course of action if the worse scenario comes to pass - 'A' provides only a scanned Bestätigung that is not accepted at the Amt, or provides nothing at all. Do I go to the Behörde and rat them out? Does this alter the legal binding of the contract, since it itself states I have to register within 14 days?

I recently moved into a two month Zwischenmiete/Untermiete, contract signed and all that. The main tenant 'A' I signed the contract with promised a Wohnungsgeberbestätigung for the purposes of registration, but said the landlord 'B' would provide it and gave me his email address. Well I emailed him (twice), and ten days later since moving in, and with an appointment at the Amt for Anmeldung next week I still haven't heard back.    'A' has been made aware of this and says if I don't hear from 'B' she'll provide the Bestätigung (which from what I understand is her responsibility anyway). However, she's on vacation until the end of month apparently and I suspect she'll only be willing to email me a scanned Bestätigung (which is not valid?).   Just wanted to inquire about my course of action if the worse scenario comes to pass - 'A' provides only a scanned Bestätigung that is not accepted at the Amt, or provides nothing at all. Do I go to the Amt and rat them out? Does this alter the legal binding of the contract, since it itself states I have to register within 14 days?

Point taken. Also, to note: I'm still registered at a Berlin address that I'm also subleasing; both subcontracts would end three months from now. Given that I'm technically already registered somewhere for the same time period, is it less of a problem that (in worst case) I'm not registered in Hamburg, even though I'll be starting work here?

One more legal question:   I asked the main tenant about getting a Wohnungsgeberbestätigung for my sublease, and today she said that afte speaking with the landlord, the landlord would provide me with the Bestätigung, but only after the rental period has begun (and post-contract signing) because he's currently on holiday.   As it seems my scam alarm is permanently set on sensitive, is the Wohnungsgeberbestätigung given from the landlord always, even if you're the subtenant (one removed)? Of can the main tenant fill that out? I swear with my sublease in Berlin the main tenant provided the paper, no signature from the owner. Slight chance it could be a delaying tactic to get the contract signed without ever having a Bestätigung.   Then again I'm not sure if I should be demanding everything be done to the letter, if nothing was meant maliciously, and risk losing the place.

Yeah, I was advised (by others in the profession) this was the standard for grads in my profession in DE. Architects generally aren't known for salaries. But I'll treat this year in Hamburg as a work vacation, learn as much as I can, and if I can't negotiate a higher wage after the Probezeit I'm happy to return stateside for my career. (note: not a snide remark, just stating as it is)   Another legal question, if possible: during the Besichtigung in Barmbek the current tenant pointed out several postcards stuck on the wall, mentioning (sheepishly) that she put them there to hide defects in the wall, and because she's moving out soon she didn't feel like repairing them. So, the walls are slightly damaged, but I don't think she's intentionally trying to shift the blame to me (as she pointed them out herself). I don't care about the aesthetics myself, but how should I request the Untermietvertrag be written to acknowledge these as preexisting conditions so that I'm not to be responsible for this?

Thanks for the advice! If you don't mind me asking a bit more, in general how do you feel about those prices in relation to the averages for those districts? Given that both are (well-) furnished apartments (and thus more expensive than unfurnished), and in decent buildings. The friends here (who rent their own places) say they're too expensive, but again these are furnished apartments.

Or to put it differently, it's got character  That isn't too big of an issue, the WG flatmates themselves are super and I've lived in Oakland, CA, so dodginess isn't new to me. However I don't know if I should risk waiting for something better to come along.   Barmbek is my first choice as well, since it's initially a Untermiete for €500 for two months, with the possibility to become Nachmieter for the aforementioned €690. And yes, that's Warmmiete (all-inclusive). HOWEVER the concern here is that with my netto salary of €1920 it's slightly above the "1/3 of income" rule, and as a fresh grad I feel like I sould be saving up as much as possible.

Another update and question: I've gotten two offers for a furnished room in 3er WGs in two different Bezirke:   1. Billstedt, €500 warm, 1 year Zwischenmiete 2. Barmbek, €690 warm, would take over as Nach/Hauptmieter (I also would work 11min from here by foot)   Friends say these are too expensive, but I understand furnished apartments are more expensive, and I don't want to get invested with proper rental leases, furnishing, and utilities (still feeling out the city). Could anyone perhaps advise on the prices for these furnished flatshare rooms, and if I should take one or just wait?  

Thanks for the feedback guys, I've declined the offer. Next time only with contract.

I wanted to ask another question regarding housing in Hamburg, but I've already a thread open, so here's my new question, fairly more open-ended:   A friend of mine recommended that I visit the offices of SAGA Hamburg and ask for affordable apartments to rent (as Hauptmieter). I will be making a visit tomorrow, but are there similar trustworthy Wohnungsunternehmen based in HH specializing in more affordable housing (i.e. €600-700 mo.) that I should also make house calls to?

I inquired about possibility of a contract, and she responded: " Ich bin in diesem Haus nur Mieter, darf aber untervermieten. Da ich also nicht Eigentümer bin, schreibe ich ungern einen Mietvertrag, Du kannst Dich aber darauf verlassen, dass Du ein halbes Jahr oder auf Wunsch länger hier bleiben kannst. Die Wohnungsgeberbescheinigung bekommst Du natürlich von mir."   Which makes no sense, my other previous WG experiences were subleases from main tenants who were also not the owners, and I still signed Untermietverträge. Is it just me or does it sound like she's making up reasons? Also, here's a grammatical question: does "ich schreibe ungern einen Mietvertrag" mean I'd rather not, but I'll do it or flatly I won't?

What's springing into my mind at the moment is a sudden change of character and her suddenly booting me out without notice, and me not being able to prove that I'm renting the place. Or perhaps to put into a question: What nefarious reasons might one have for declining to sign a rental contract? Not legally allowed to sublet, wanting the possibility for quickly ejecting the subtenant?   And to summarize, would you recommend I take this offer without contract, given the risks?   I'll insist on bank transfer, so hopefully that won't be a problem.