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  1. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    I had a similar experience. I applied for citizenship based on my efforts towards positive integration into Germany (citizenship after 6 years instead of the usual 8). When I arrived to my appointment, I literally had a folder with everything the Sachbearbeiter would need for my application. They wouldn't even let me open it before they started sarcastically sneering at me that I needed several years of community service (which I had). When I pulled out a certificate proving this, their eyes bugged out of their head for a few seconds and they seemed surprised. They then apologized for talking to me in that way, I assume they're just used to having people come in who aren't prepared or who demand things they can't give them. To be honest, if any of us was working that job, we'd quickly end up quite jaded too.   I'll give it another few days before contacting them. I'll wait until it's officially been a month. Thanks for your positivity!
  2. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    Most people here seem to say it took them 4 weeks to get the appointment for their citizenship ceremony. My 4-week Schmerzgrenze is coming up very soon but I will stay positive.
  3. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    No, I'm not telling bullshit. I had to submit an application for an Ausweis für Staatenlose and the manager of my ABH had to decide on it themself whether or not they'd give it to me. It took them about a week to make a decision. I was then informed the Ausweis costs 160€ and they'd need to issue me a new Niederlassungserlaubnis, which would take about a month in total.   When I asked about my vacation outside of the EU in May, I wasn't even offered an application for a Reiseausweis für Staatenlose to fill out. My Sachbearbeiterin and the Sachbearbeiterin sitting across from her both told me there's about 0 chance of me getting the Reiseausweis. It's usually given only on an emergency basis, such as for refugees, I was told. They said me not being able to go on a vacation isn't an emergency.
  4. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

      My ABH confirmed they can offer me just the regular Ausweis für Staatenlose, but not a Reiseausweis. They said a Reiseausweis is for serious cases only and they don't give it out to just anyone, even after I explained my situation. I have already accepted I probably won't be able to go on vacation with my family outside of the EU in May, even though I had the tickets booked while I thought the citizenship thing was going according to plan (the Certificate of Loss of Nationality was very late). Just the Ausweis für Staatenlose itself would cost 160€ and take almost a month to arrive, which surprised me. But thank you for the recommendation.
  5. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    No, I am literally stateless, I have a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the US government. My US passport also ran out about 3 weeks ago. The consulate put holes in it to render it useless.
  6. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    Wow, you sure got it fast!
  7. How long did you wait for your Einbürgerungsurkunde?

    Thanks for all the replies
  8. I have no clue where to post this in this forum, so this topic is probably in the wrong place, but it's worth a shot anyways.   Currently, I am stateless. I have no valid ID or passport. I turned in all my documents to the German Einbürgerungsbehörde 2 weeks ago and was told to wait for a letter in the mail stating when I could attend the citizenship ceremony and receive my Einbürgerungsurkunde. It's now been over 2 weeks since I turned everything in and I still haven't heard anything. How long did you wait between turning in all your documents and attending your ceremony?
  9. My experience with renouncing and obtaining German citizenship

    Please note it's $2,350 per month GROSS and not NET. It unfortunately makes all the difference. I am also unsure whether this applies to social security income, that's something worth asking the Einbürgerungsbehörde.   And I'm going to be really honest with you. A lawyer won't do anything other than charge a lot of money for something you could just do yourself. Just go to your local Eingbürgerungsbehörde and get informed. Explain your situation, but please be aware that the Einbürgerungsbehörde is supposed to frown on double citizenship, they prefer applicants solely wanting German citizenship.
  10. I don't know exactly which subforum this belongs on, so please feel free to move it. But I am making this post for anyone looking for more information about this subject.   I received an Einbürgerungszusicherung about 3 months ago and was unqualified to receive double citizenship (I earn slightly over the threshhold of 2350$ gross/month). So, I had to renounce my US citizenship in order to be given German citizenship (which doesn't just happen immediately).   I sent an e-mail to the e-mail address posted on the US Consulate in Frankfurt's website for renunciations. I received a reply not too long afterwards asking me to fill out some documents and send them back. So I did, made a scan and sent them back. I then received an e-mail asking me to call to make an appointment. So I called and was given an appointment a month and a half later at 8:30am in Frankfurt. I was told to bring my US passport with me, the 2,350$ renunciation fee (or 2,115€ instead), a DHL envelope that was stamped and had my address on it so they could send me some documents and the Einbürgerungszusicherung. Renunciations by US citizens within Germany are only processed in Frankfurt, I was told.   So I woke up at 2:30am to be at the consulate by 8:30am that day. I arrived around 8:20am and even though I had an appointment, I was told to wait outside at the reception and security outside with everyone else. Everyone goes to reception first, it's two counters outside that non-US citizens and US citizens wait in line for, the non-citizens on the left and the US citizens on the right. Once I reached the counter for US citizens, I was told my appointment couldn't be found. The receptionist asked me to wait for someone to come outside to talk to me, but no one came. Apparently I was supposed to recieve confirmation from the consulate that I had an appointment, but I never did and wasn't even aware they would send me anything. You're supposed to bring this confirmation to the appointment and show it to the woman at the first reception counter.   After about 10 minutes, the receptionist gave me a ticket anyways (?) and I then waited at security for 40ish minutes to be let inside. It's apparently normal that it takes a while, so it's good to factor that into your travel planning. I was told to go to a separate building and arrived in a large hall with many counters and lines of people waiting for different kinds of consular services. The person at that building's reception still asked if I was sure I had made an appointment and I said yes. They pointed out where the casher is and had me pay the renunciation fee and receive a receipt for it. I then took the receipt with me and went upstairs to another of many counters. I was then greeted by the person I had made the appointment with over the phone, who asked why I was late. I was pretty confused but I told them honestly that no one could find my appointment in their system! I was actually afraid for a while that they wouldn't let me inside at all since their security is nuts (and I worked 9 overtime hours at work to get that day off!). We went into a small cabin, I was told to shut the door and then we spoke into microphones through bulletproof glass (all counters there have bulletproof glass).   Anyways, they spoke to me in German and said they'd get the consular officer on duty that day to talk to me. They then exited and the consular officer came in. He asked a bunch of questions in English such as "do you know why you're here today" "are you renouncing of your own free will?" "does your family know you're renouncing?" "do you understand you'll be considered a foreigner in the US from now on?", etc. I replied yes to all of them. He also asked if I have a job and speak German. He then stood up, asked me to as well, and said to hold my right hand up. He recited the oath of renunciation and I only had to say "yes" in reply. We then sat back down, I signed some documents he slid under the glass and he gave me a letter stating I'll receive my Certificate of Loss of Nationality within 3 months. I then left the consulate and went back home. I was there for about 1.5hrs total.   According to the letter, once I have my Certificate of Loss of Nationality, I am no longer considered an American citizen (but am until it's issued). This is important as you have to turn in this certificate to the German Einbürgerungsbehörde to prove you renounced. Only then will they give you German citizenship.   A tip: The tiny kiosk right across from the U-Bahn station Gießenerstraße offers to hold your stuff while you're in the consulate for 3€, which is a great deal. I saw a bunch of people taking electronics into the consulate, but they were put into plastic bags and held for a fee by the security there (I assume for more than 3€). Liquids aren't allowed inside, either. I thus recommend the kiosk's services.