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Thanks for reply John   Can you please tell, if I can just cancel my current German private Insurance as selft employed freelancer do I need approval from current insurance provider ? Can not I just simply cancel and stay uninsured also ?  

hi  all does anyone have experience changing from German insurances to such international inurance https://www.cigna.com/ They have given me a quote which is much cheaper that German private insurance   any pros and cons ?

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alderhill in application you should specify if you are ready to give up your citizenship - YES or NO The Person from KVR told to specify here NO is a bad idea because in bavaria it is complicated... and in case of yes, they will process your application, send you letter confirming you will get German citizenship and ask you to go to your embassy and cancel current one, after you cancel you send them confirmation and you get German passport I think in some cases they dont ask for confirmation depending on country laws where receiving one citizenship causes losing other once. but the state where you live may be different case, it seems each bundesland is different with requirement and of  course    Bavaria is the worst place to apply   I was thinking citizenship law is same for all German states but it does not seem so it seems each state somehow extended  it with their own requirements, because they have nothing more interesting to do and should show up that they do some work   I made a mistake to apply here in Munich, it would make sense to rent a cheap room in some other state , register and apply there    

Which Bundeslands are easy with Beibehaltung ?

So theoretically I can apply for this Beibehaltung in Germany before applying for second citizenship and see what the outcome will be and decide later according their answer 🤔        

thanks for replies   do you know how easy it is to restore German citizenship once it is lost due to accepting other

HI All   I am from Non EU country I have applied for German citizenship, and they told it is complicated to maintain current one, so I have checked a checkbox that I am ready to give up current one   on the other hand I checked with my current country,  and they told it is OK to have both, can make an application to maintain the current one, or after applying for German one and losing current one I can apply to restore. but if I restore on the other side  than I may lose the German one.   Do you have experience with such cases? how to keep both should I contact immigration lawyers to sort it out ?

zephyr how many months did it took from first submitting application? 

150 ?

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I believe here it just matters where you pay taxes   if you are moving out from Germany and registering in Switzerland and paying taxes and social contributions there , than Germany certainly will not be happy with this and will probably cancel your residence permit but if you want to keep German Niderlasungserlaubnis you can still try to not deregister from here, hopefully Switzerland may not be sharing the information and in this case your NE will still be valid.   on the other hand if you want to keep residence permit you can also register as self employed or freelancer and invoice the Swiss company, if they lets you this,  in this case you are registered and paying taxes in Germany and you will have no problem here to keep residence permit this could work in some temporary work , probably less than 6 months on the other hand if you stay in Switzerland more than 6 month and not pay taxes in Switzerland they won't be happy with this either and may even arrest you     long story shortly, if you moving in Switzerland for longer than 6 months than you can not keep your Niderlasungserlaubnis,  you can also apply for Daueraufenthalt EU which has longer expiry dates   none of the countries care much where you are actually living, they care about where you pay taxes

yes you can establish as much Gewerbe/ selfemployment as you want   more income you show , more happy they will be because they will charge more tax

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