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I hate Sundays in Germany

No food, no videos, and no laundry

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sir realist
I live less than five minutes ride from some of the prettiest forests and wine estates you could ever hope for and still live within a reasonable sized town ( 230,000 give or take a few students)
and it provides me with countless relaxing sundays either with snow in the winter or great weather and nice places to swim in the summer and it´s great , but i cant do this every week
Sometimes there are chores like washing clothes so why for the love of ****** can i not find a coin laundry that opens on a sunday ?? it´s such a sunday thing to do along with renting videos
which i also cant do if i all of a sudden decide to, this does not make any sense to me in anyway at all, if anything should be open at all surely it has to be these two places let alone a nice big COLES or a TESCO
Oh well at least i can buy takeaway beer on a sunday tongue.gif cant do that in australia even with 24/7 supermarkets.
sarabyrd
Move to Munich, plenty of laundromats open on Sunday. Or at least join one of those unmanned automatic videomat places.
silty1
As long as I live here I hope they never change the Sunday closure laws. That's the way it was in my home province in Canada before they screwed it up and opened it up for Sunday shopping. Now you have heavy traffic and noise on the roads every day of the week. At least in Germany you can have one day of peace and quiet.
sir realist
I have one of them about five hundred meters away, its a pain in the arse, finger not scanning properly and a very limited selection , that got old real quick.
i should apologize for ranting been off work sick for five days i am going stir crazy.
marie-claire
I hate sundays in Germany too. They are boring and depressing and they always seem to interrupt my week. The worst thing is a sunday followed by a public holiday.
And yes I really miss Woolworth and Coles Supermarkets too, as much as 24 hour libraries.
sir realist
QUOTE (silty1 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:01 pm) *
As long as I live here I hope they never change the Sunday closure laws. That's the way it was in my home province in Canada before they screwed it up and opened it up for Sunday shopping. Now you have heavy traffic and noise on the roads every day of the week. At least in Germany you can have one day of peace and quiet.

I´m sure we can cope with a few video shops and a laundry or two. Anyway did not notice that much difference back home when they brought in and i´m from a city of 3.7 million.
sir realist
ah yes marie-claire , two days off work and cannot even use them to wash me clothes or do the shopping
Bipa
QUOTE (silty1 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:01 pm) *
At least in Germany you can have one day of peace and quiet.

Yeah... especially if you live near a soccer stadium, or a church rolleyes.gif
sir realist
A soccer stadium !! ouch , churches those things are everywhere with their bells and their tolling and what ever goes on in those places. ´shudders´
silty1
QUOTE (sir realist @ Jun 13 2008, 10:09 pm) *
I´m sure we can cope with a few video shops and a laundry or two. Anyway did not notice that much difference back home when they brought in and i´m from a city of 3.7 million.

Video stores are open in Hamburg on Sunday - don't know about where you live. Traffic here drops off quite a bit on Saturday afternoon and Sundays are noticeably quieter. I notice a difference when I go back to Vancouver - Sundays feel like any other day of the week now, the mall parking lots are jammed with shoppers and the roads are full as well.
Allershausen
QUOTE (marie-claire @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 pm) *
I hate sundays in Germany too. They are boring and depressing and they always seem to interrupt my week. The worst thing is a sunday followed by a public holiday.
And yes I really miss Woolworth and Coles Supermarkets too, as much as 24 hour libraries.

There's more to life than shopping, there's a world out there waiting for you to explore it, don't waste the opportunity.
sir realist
i dont really think you can compare vancouver to anywhere in this country that i have been to even on a busy trading day here when it comes to shopping malls or traffic .
marie-claire
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jun 13 2008, 10:43 pm) *
There's more to life than shopping, there's a world out there waiting for you to explore it, don't waste the opportunity.

Yeah, you are absolutely right, but I prefer to do that on any other day of the week.
sir realist
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jun 13 2008, 10:43 pm) *
There's more to life than shopping, there's a world out there waiting for you to explore it, don't waste the opportunity.

eh ?? some peoples weekday schedules, work+commute and all those mundane things mean that our saturdays can be spent running around like a blue arsed fly trying to get lifes other things sorted
stuff that we dont really feel like doing at 1930 at night just before dinner , i would much rather sleep in two mornings and spend my arvos doing that stuff. my whole point here is Video Libraries and Wasch salons a supermarket would be a bonus though.
marie-claire
I know what you mean Sir Realist. It's hard to get used to useless sundays, more so if you may still be adjusting to living in a different time zone.
Bipa
I absolutely avoid going out exploring and sightseeing on a Sunday if at all possible. The paths are full of people, the line-ups for the sights are horrendous, and there are crowds everywhere! Sunday is when I get caught up on laundry, quiet gardening like weed-pulling, and other tasks that need to be done around the house. Best days to explore are Tues-Thurs, since on Mondays many restaurants are closed.

Shopping on a Saturday is equally nerve wracking. Mon-Thurs after 7pm is much nicer and relaxing.
sir realist
yes but i spend 1730 - 1900 with th joys of deutsche bahn, aldi, lidle or any other german "supermarket" for that matter does not rate high on my priorities , saturday is the only choice i have for a proper shopping trip but to have to do my washinf on the same day just adds insult to injury, washing was born to be a sunday chore and i just cant get the fact that there are no coin-op laundrys anywhere open on a sunday.
Bipa
For 250 euros you can get yourself a brand new washing machine. And you can probably find a used one for a lot cheaper. Isn't there any room at your place to stick one somewhere? Then you can do your laundry any time.
sir realist
nowhere in the apartment not a chance ! there is one washing machine supplied by the super but thats for the whole building so ya gotta stalk that thing to get a crack at it and also you have to buy tokens for it which involve a horribly unreliable hausmeisterdienst and bank transfers and postage get the picture and just finding this place was a nightmare in this city coupled with that big provision thing for whoever that jerk was i aint in a hurry to do it again.
Bipa
If you live alone, have you considered getting a mini washing machine, like those used for camping?
marie-claire
Sorry to say that, Bipa, but they look like portable toilets to me.
Bipa
Does it really matter what they look like? If they do a half-decent job, and it means that you can wash your underwear while cooking and eating dinner or watching TV comfortably at home, then they're worth a look-see. A friend of mine has a model that you put in your bathtub and the water simply is dumped into the tub when it is done. I can't find the model online, but it sounds like a very convenient solution for a single household with space problems in a small apartment.
sir realist
this is all beside the point why on earth would i want to do 40 loads of wash in one of those things compared to four at the laundry , this has nothing to do with owning a machine to start with , its the all about the sheer insaneness of a self serve coin op laundry being closed on a sunday the most perfect of days to visit such a place.
Bipa
40 loads? You do 80 kilos of laundry every week? ohmy.gif
invisible man
I too hate sunday over here. I wish they have a 7 eleven store where I can run in and get some beer and open 24hrs. biggrin.gif
sir realist
a chef and a barmaid you not believe the work clothes we go thru every week aprons and whites and tea towels alone are never gonna come clean if you load 2kgs into one of those dinky little things.
sir realist
QUOTE (invisible man @ Jun 14 2008, 12:33 am) *
I too hate sunday over here. I wish they have a 7 eleven store where I can run in and get some beer and open 24hrs.

i have no problems getting takeaway beer 24hrs a day there at least three places for that close by.
as i said in the first post , cant do that in australia or at least not where i am from last time i was there.
Lavender Rain
QUOTE (marie-claire @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 pm) *
I hate sundays in Germany too. They are boring and depressing and they always seem to interrupt my week. The worst thing is a sunday followed by a public holiday.
And yes I really miss Woolworth and Coles Supermarkets too, as much as 24 hour libraries.

You miss Woolworth? You do have to get a life wink.gif .
HEM
QUOTE (marie-claire @ Jun 13 2008, 11:03 pm) *
I know what you mean Sir Realist. It's hard to get used to useless sundays, more so if you may still be adjusting to living in a different time zone.

I like Sundays - means NO SHOPPING or anything like that & I can persue hobby/sport.

QUOTE (invisible man @ Jun 14 2008, 12:33 am) *
I too hate sunday over here. I wish they have a 7 eleven store where I can run in and get some beer and open 24hrs.

Lack of planning ability? never mind - there is a nice Tankstelle somewhere near...
Carm
I have been here almost 7 years, and I really hate sundays, I cannot get a machine to do laundry in the building on sunday, I do not have room in my apartment for my own machine, I work late most nights and I work saturdays, would love to have the option of sunday shopping (not saying 24 hours) but a few hours options would suit me fine. I hate that I have to shop saturday in the crowds after I have worked a full day already to get my groceries for sunday, mon and tues (as I work extra long days and cannot hit the shops) and stuff them in my supersmall sized fridge.
Museums, parks and the hiking trails are overstuffed with people doing 'family' stuff.

There are those that feel we do not need sunday shopping, fine, don't shop on sunday, there are those that feel sundays are for families, fine! spend the day with your family, mine is 7 time zones away, so if I want to do something on sunday I just wish I had the option.
sevdah
QUOTE (Carm @ Jun 14 2008, 8:52 am) *
... so if I want to do something on sunday I just wish I had the option.

I second that!

It is not that I am a mad shopaholics but if I want/need to do something else on Sundays than Wanderung - I would very much appreciate to have an option. Instead of " we shall all have a quiet family time on Sundays". I guess in a country as heavily regulated as Germany, concept of 'having a choice' is not very well understood blink.gif

With the pace of modern life (of which I am not particularly big fan but this is what my generation is stuck with) this will change of course. Already changing, even in Germany (albeit still only outside Bavaria). It will change here too - just wondering if I would stay long enough around here to see it ...
marie-claire
I agree with you both, Carm and Sevdah. It's all about the freedom of choice. It doesn't mean you want to spend all day in a Supermarket on a Sunday and totally rule out any other activities.
banause
I hate Sundays. It's no fun taking walks around town when the streets are dead, so my husband and I always end up staying home and doing nothing! Also, it would be really nice to be able to pop out to the store if needed. Any mention of this to German acquaintances always gets "But why would I want to go shopping on Sunday?" as an answer. Yeah, that's right, because it's all about you. rolleyes.gif It's like the concept of letting other people decide for themselves what to do with their own spare time is completely alien.
Krieg
Those Germans, how dare they not to open the shops on Sundays then I can do my stuff that day just because I do not want to do it any other day of the week.
Bipa
I always find it hypocritical that a person who owns a little shop can't open on a Sunday to perhaps make a little extra money, but can go sell popcorn at the movie theatre or work at the soccer stadium or sell currywurst at the recreation centre to supplement their income, none of which are truly required. Either shut down ALL unnecessary places, or let them all open up. Shop owners will soon see if it is even worth opening on a Sunday. If nobody comes to buy, then the owner can choose to stay closed. But if there is a local demand, then why forbid it from being answered?
eurovol
Reality check: When in Rome, do as the Roman's do. rolleyes.gif
BritGirl
Well my bank in central Cologne (not some village in the middle of nowhere) isn't even open on SATURDAYS!!!

I agree with all who would like to shop on sundays. The germans always say they wouldn't like to work sundays, but when I lived in UK I loved working sundays because I only had to do 10-4 instead of 9-5.30, and got a day off in the week.
Bipa
eurovol: err... what'cha doing speakin' an' typin' a furrin tongue here? Shouldn't you be off doing Deutschy stuff? After all... you'se in Germanland tongue.gif
fruitlassie
QUOTE (Krieg @ Jun 14 2008, 12:49 pm) *
Those Germans, how dare they not to open the shops on Sundays then I can do my stuff that day just because I do not want to do it any other day of the week.

Yeah, never mind the people that work weird hours or have other commitments during the week that prevent them from shopping when it's convenient for everyone else. Jesus. What makes you think people are chomping at the bit to shop on Sunday just because they're lazy?

Giving people more options (with regard to shopping hours, food selection, or anything else) will not cause the downfall of German society!
Krieg
QUOTE (Bipa @ Jun 14 2008, 1:22 pm) *
I always find it hypocritical that a person who owns a little shop can't open on a Sunday to perhaps make a little extra money, but can go sell popcorn at the movie theatre or work at the soccer stadium or sell currywurst at the recreation centre to supplement their income, none of which are truly required. Either shut down ALL unnecessary places, or let them all open up. Shop owners will soon see if it is even worth opening on a Sunday. If nobody comes to buy, then the owner can choose to stay closed. But if there is a local demand, then why forbid it from being answered?

You assume people are going to buy more food in the supermarket because it is open on Sundays. It does not work like that. People need food for 7 days therefore people buy food for 7 days, if the supermarket is open only 2 days a week, people still will buy food for 7 days.

QUOTE (fruitlassie @ Jun 14 2008, 2:37 pm) *
Yeah, never mind the people that work weird hours or have other commitments during the week that prevent them from shopping when it's convenient for everyone else. Jesus. What makes you think people are chomping at the bit to shop on Sunday just because they're lazy?

Giving people more options (with regard to shopping hours, food selection, or anything else) will not cause the downfall of German society!

Well, German supermarkets do not open on Sundays and the country is doing well. Stop playing the victim or thinking you know better. Do you even know why they do not open on Sundays?

And working "weird hours" is no excuse. A person works something between 35 and 40 hours a week, there is still plenty of time to buy the goods. If you have important commitments that prevent you from buying food, then you have a priorities problem.

I remember some years ago when supermarkets closed at 6 pm during weekdays and 2 pm on Saturdays, and as far as I know, nobody died.
Bipa
QUOTE (Krieg @ Jun 14 2008, 11:23 pm) *
You assume people are going to buy more food in the supermarket because it is open on Sundays. It does not work like that. People need food for 7 days therefore people buy food for 7 days, if the supermarket is open only 2 days a week, people still will buy food for 7 days.


There's more than groceries to consider. How about cars, furniture, clothes, books... hold on, I do buy books on Sunday... from Amazon tongue.gif But getting a new suit for my husband is a major pain in the butt. He finally got one in Argentina while on a business trip ... could have been money spent in Germany.

QUOTE (Krieg @ Jun 14 2008, 11:23 pm) *
And working "weird hours" is no excuse. A person works something between 35 and 40 hours a week, there is still plenty of time to buy the goods. If you have important commitments that prevent you from buying food, then you have a priorities problem.


You have a real food fixation, eh? And what's this BS about a person working between 35 and 40 hours a week? Most folks I know are busy much longer, especially if you add travel to and from work. And you're completely missing larger purchases in your equation.

QUOTE (Krieg @ Jun 14 2008, 11:23 pm) *
I remember some years ago when supermarkets closed at 6 pm during weekdays and 2 pm on Saturdays, and as far as I know, nobody died.


Err... so not dying is your major criteria for successful policies? Geez... how about we shut down EVERYTHING except essential services so that more folks can enjoy their quiet stay-at-home with family Sundays. That includes pubs that don't serve full hot meals to travellers, museums, amusement parks, swimming pools, theatres and cinemas, stadiums, and everything else that won't cause anyone to die. All those poor people being forced to work on a Sunday...


I'd like to see some hard facts about how longer opening hours and Sunday shopping doesn't stimulate the economy. My reading has shown the opposite, so I'd be very interested to see a study showing no economic benefit accruing.
Sweetypie
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In Germany, opening hours have long been restricted through the Ladenschlussgesetz. The 1956 law required shops to close for the weekend at 2 p.m. on a Saturday and 6:30 p.m. on weeknights, with opening until 6 p.m. on the first Saturday of the month, in what was known as the Langer Samstag, or "long Saturday". The law was changed, in the face of strong resistance from labour unions, to allow langer Donnerstag ("long Thursday") until 8:30 p.m. in 1988, and in 1996 opening times were extended to 8 p.m. from Monday to Friday and 4 p.m. on Saturday; this was extended to 8 p.m. on Saturday in 2004.

In 2004, the Federal Constitutional Court ruled against [18] lifting restrictions on Sunday opening, which is still confined to some small bakeries and convenience stores inside railway stations and airports. However, in 2006, the responsibility for opening hours was transferred to the state governments instead of the federal government, leading to an end to regulated Monday-Saturday opening hours in several states, such as Berlin. However, there is still strong resistance to Sunday shopping from churches and politicians. The leadership of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern has expressed an interest in allowing Sunday shopping.


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Sunday trading in England and Wales was not generally permitted until 1994. This meant that shops such as department stores and supermarkets were not able to open legally. A number of specialist outlets were able to open legally, including garden centres, small "corner" or family run shops, and chemists.

An earlier attempt by Margaret Thatcher's government to allow Sunday shopping in 1986 was defeated in Parliament, with opposition coming from Conservative MPs who saw it as a threat to family life and church attendance, and Labour MPs who were concerned about workers' rights. This led to the formation of the Keep Sunday Special campaign, backed by church groups and USDAW, the trade union representing shop workers.

Several large outlets challenged the legal ruling in force before 1994 by opening on Sundays, and the eventual outcome was that large stores are now able to open for up to 6 hours on Sunday between the hours of 10am and 6pm, in practice this means that they open from 10am to 4pm or 11am to 5pm or 12pm to 6pm. Supermarkets usually open from 10am-4pm, whereas most other businesses open (and close) later. Christmas Day and Easter Sunday have been excluded as trading days. This applies even to garden centres, which earlier had been trading over Easter. Details of the changes to the legislation are included in the Sunday Trading Act 1994. In 2006, the government considered further relaxation of the permitted hours of business but decided that there was no consensus for change. [20]

In Scotland, there was no specific legislation regarding Sunday trading, it being left to the discretion of local councils. Consequently, opening hours are longer than in England and Wales, and large supermarkets remain open 24-7. In the Western Isles, where the Free Church of Scotland has a considerable following, there has been virtually no commercial activity on Sundays until recently. In many small towns and villages shops will still remain closed on Sunday. Unlike England and Wales there is no restriction on Easter Sunday opening and therefore this is a normal shopping day.

In Northern Ireland, Sunday shopping is regulated under the Sunday Trading (Northern Ireland) Order 1997. Opening hours are more limited, usually between 1pm and 6pm. This was to create a greater gap between Sunday services and the opening of large shops, in response to objections from churches, which have more influence than in the rest of the UK. Pubs were not allowed to open on Sunday in Northern Ireland until 1989. These laws make Belfast one of the few capital cities in Europe to have absolutely no 24 hour shops in its city centre.
EmptySuitcase
QUOTE (eurovol @ Jun 14 2008, 2:02 pm) *
Reality check: When in Rome, do as the Roman's do.

... and if you can't, find another "Rome"! wink.gif
As I can see... this whining about stores being closed on Sundays in Germany.. is a never-ending topic. What can I say. You guys could just pack all your stuff and move over to Romania! I can buy food anytime, now. Moreover, washing machines are really cheap... tongue.gif
EmptySuitcase
QUOTE (Bipa @ Jun 14 2008, 12:04 am) *
If you live alone, have you considered getting a mini washing machine, like those used for camping?

Like those used for diapers, you mean! laugh.gif Ah, don't worry... I used to hate Sundays when I was living in Germany. Now I love them. Not only because of the shopping thing, believe me...
Krieg
Summary of this thread: Foreigners who how to run Germany better than Germans.
Lavender Rain
Summary of this thread: Foreigners who have diffifculty getting over cultural chasms. biggrin.gif
MonksTown
I love Sundays.
A nice long sleep. Relaxed breakfast at home or brunch with friends or get a roast going for later.
Go for a walk, call in on friends.
Either catch some of the best of German TV: Euroblick (Bayern 3) or Auslands Journal (ARD1)
or have a couple of pints early doors in the local and catch up with the gossip from the weekend.

Chillage in the village. What's not to like? smile.gif
Kay
Summary of this thread according to EmptySuitcase: We should all pack our suitcases and move to Romania.
Bipa
The chasm is getting smaller. Germany has taken the first steps into entering the 20th century. They'll get there, eventually. tongue.gif
Lavender Rain
VOTE NO TO SUNDAY SHOPPING! VOTE YES TO SUNDAY LAUDROMATS! laugh.gif
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