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Applying for a job without a work visa

Is this ok or silly?

Toytown Germany > Discussion forum > Germany-wide > Visas/permits
vinterdrog
hallo, i know so little when it comes to work (esp. here in germany)

in any case, i was wondering, if i were on a 3 month student visa which did not allow me to work in germany, does that preclude me from applying for as a whole, or can i still apply anyway, for the off chance that someone might want to hire me and help me get a work visa? (for whatever ridiculous reason)

i'm just wondering if every international who applies for a job already has a work visa under his/her belt.

also, on a side note, a question..

do you think it's equally silly for a master's grad to apply for an internship job primarily geared towards vordiplom students? i found a couple that only require the english language and i thought i might try applying anyway. sometimes in north america if one is 'overqualified' for a job, one is just as disadvantageous as the underqualified. is this the same in germany? i mean, i obviously would never consider internship jobs for undergrads if i were back in north america but i'm not in north america.. any job would be appreciated.

thanks in advance..
HEM
As usual... a little more information helps e.g. in your profile since many answers are nationality-dependent for a start.

QUOTE (vinterdrog @ Jun 3 2008, 11:50 pm) *
i'm just wondering if every international who applies for a job already has a work visa under his/her belt.

For instance in case of citizens from many EU countries the answer will be "NO".
vinterdrog
QUOTE (HEM @ Jun 4 2008, 3:09 am) *
For instance in case of citizens from many EU countries the answer will be "NO".

which was primarily why i started this topic.. i am not from EU.. sorry i forgot to explicitly state it.

i was searching jobs in monster.de under students section and found a couple internships in the financial sector that only mention "good knowledge in english". about 95% of the jobs state good german and english, so i thought maybe a very small percentage of jobs out there really dont care whether you can speak german or not?

as for my profile.. i recently completed my masters in econ at a relatively well known uni in canada, only 1 internship experience (financial analyst intern), and thats about it. since i have little to no experience, i am willing to take on any job that can help me stay for a while in germany ( 3 months to 1 or 2 years, or longer).
HEM
QUOTE (vinterdrog @ Jun 4 2008, 10:45 am) *
as for my profile.. i recently completed my masters in econ at a relatively well known uni in canada, only 1 internship experience (financial analyst intern), and thats about it. since i have little to no experience, i am willing to take on any job that can help me stay for a while in germany ( 3 months to 1 or 2 years, or longer).

My profile I meant your forum membership profile...

QUOTE (vinterdrog @ Jun 4 2008, 10:45 am) *
which was primarily why i started this topic.. i am not from EU.. sorry i forgot to explicitly state it.

...and in your forum membership profile under nationality is says "No Information". This field can help others to a foundation on which to give you the info you would wish to receive...
globalgirl
I tried applying for an internship visa when I first got here but got turned down for the visa because they said I was over qualified. I heard that it's now quite quick and easy to apply for some of the freelance visa's (especially English teaching)
parnell
how hot are u ? there's some rich golf guy who's lookin to hire two chics to clean his house - twas posted on TT this am , although it did mention that they have to share a room, it didnt say anything about lesbo stuff although I like to think that's obvious.
vinterdrog
what the fuck

ugh. ok whatev
newfoundlander
If you're a Canuck then you'll need a job offer in order to get a work permit, so applying for a job without a work permit is not only okay, it's the only option.

In the mean time, if you just want to stay in Germany, you can get a "Learning German Language" visa with confirmation of enrollment in an "intensive" language course (+ the inevitable 103 other required documents the auslanderbehörde will demand). I got a year clear for this when I first came to Germany, worked out well.

Out of curiosity, which Uni?

Cheers
vinterdrog
Thanks for your reply! So I have some hope.. I am currently taking an intensive language course in Berlin. I actually applied for a student visa in Toronto but they only gave me 3 months, which I didn't get because Canadians can stay in Germany for 3 months without a visa..

p.s. I studied at U of T, which has relatively good econ program i think
cyn
you can apply as much as you like, being considered will be the prob
Serenajean1
I have applied for numberous job, but noone will hire without a work prmit or visa unless you work in a very skilled proffesions where they need you and will complete the paperwork to get you. Even the US military and embassy wont consider and american for emplyment here without a visa. I found that suprising.
Deetz
If you are Canadian and under like 30 you can get a year long holiday visa... this is the ticket man.
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