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Charcoal vs. gas grill

Which kind of barbecue do you prefer?

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the vicar
I've just got a new gas grill to replace my old charcoal barbecue. I've instantly fallen in love with the gas grill. A flick of the swtich and you're cooking. When things flare up you can reduce the heat and food is cooked prefectly. You still get the thrill of cooking outside and the food taste just as good if not better than the old smokey coal option.

So is it gas or...

charcoal for you this summer.
NOFXmike
I love gas grills. Too much work with the charcoal, maybe I'm lazy, I don't care.
eurovol
Johnny English
Gas. But I'm bored of BBQ's already this year, and it's not even June yet. Bah humbug.
PES
QUOTE (NOFXmike @ May 31 2008, 8:38 pm) *
I love gas grills. Too much work with the charcoal, maybe I'm lazy, I don't care.

Well put.
Timmeh
Gas...all the way, anything else is just plain G to the A to the Y
Beardie
I voted dont care, but I dont understand the comments about charcoal being hard work.

Buy the pre-packed charcoal packets which you simply light the brown bag its in and then deposit in the BBQ, after 15-20 minutes spread the coals around, presto-hey BBQ ready to use. Gives about an hour of cooking time per bag. You get between 4 and 8 packets per sack depending what size you buy.
sarabyrd
Charcoal, definitely. Gas bbq? You may as well turn on the inside stove. The best part of bbq food is the slightly smoky taste you get from the charcoal. Of course, you do not use an accelerator such as spirits (methylane type).
Johnny English
You can buy and add damp wood chips to gas BBQ's to get that authentic fagash taste, but I can't be arsed these days. I might argue that gas with it's cleaner burn actually allows you to work more on your distinctive sauces and flavours.

Charcoal is also fine if you have reliable guests that rock up on time, but gas is also more flexible if you have those rude bastards that turn up late etc. Plus charcoal is messier for cleaning up at the end.
Owain Glyndwr
the whole fun about BBQing is the process of getting the coals glowing. Gas just isn't as much fun.
PES
I have too little time for charcoal , so I bought my first gas stove last year. Now I am grilling more, even in winter. I have no regrets about making the switch.
Kay
QUOTE (Beardie @ May 31 2008, 11:10 pm) *
I voted dont care

So did I, but the vote count for that option now (unlike yesterday) stands at zero. Who rigged the poll? dry.gif
Hazza
QUOTE (Beardie @ May 31 2008, 11:10 pm) *
Buy the pre-packed charcoal packets which you simply light the brown bag its in and then deposit in the BBQ, after 15-20 minutes spread the coals around, presto-hey BBQ ready to use. Gives about an hour of cooking time per bag. You get between 4 and 8 packets per sack depending what size you buy.

After 15-20 minutes, I don't wanna be spreading coals around, I wanna be eating...

Gas all the way
the vicar
QUOTE (Owain Glyndwr @ Jun 1 2008, 11:30 am) *
the whole fun about BBQing is the process of getting the coals glowing.

I used to enjoy getting the charcoal glowing. These days I just can't be arsed to play around with it. With the gas you can come home from work, turn on the gas and slap on a couple of steaks. I find I'm doing a lot more cooking outside.
kyllmann
I spent ten years in the States cooking on a gas grill wishing I had a decent charcoal one. Got a charcoal one when I moved back here. And replaced the damn thing with a gas grill this year which I love. No screwing around beforehand. Easy cleanup. If it's too hot, turn it down; if it's too cold, turn it up. Plus it has a griddle which is perfect for hash browns and eggs over easy. Breakfast on the grill. Now THAT's the life biggrin.gif
Beardie
QUOTE (Kay @ Jun 1 2008, 12:01 pm) *
So did I, but the vote count for that option now (unlike yesterday) stands at zero. Who rigged the poll?

I blame the fundamentalists. Down with Charcoalism, down with Gasism. Seek the one true light of apathy. wacko.gif Burn them! Burn them!
the vicar
QUOTE (sarabyrd @ Jun 1 2008, 8:28 am) *
slightly smoky taste you get from the charcoal.

Personally I think the taste from charcoal barbecued food is overrated. Many a time I've spent hours fighting with the grill, then you sit down to eat and taste the food and wonder if it was all worth it.

Then there's the uncontrollable flames scenario, where you're one step away from calling the fire brigade out.

QUOTE (kyllmann @ Jun 1 2008, 1:00 pm) *
If it's too hot, turn it down; if it's too cold, turn it up.

Plus you've got the two rings. So you can have the stubborn sausages on high and your delicate king prawns on low.
kyllmann
QUOTE (the vicar @ Jun 1 2008, 1:32 pm) *
Personally I think the taste from charcoal barbecued food is overrated.

Totally agree. I can't taste the difference... But then I can't hear the difference between a CD and vinyl, either. Simple mind that I am laugh.gif
Andy3535
This is for me the only way to bbq,on my selfmade smokers

the vicar
How fast can they go?
kyllmann
Depends on how many neighbors chase them with pitch forks!
canaryman
Only one way to go, wood. (I use Cherry, Plum, Apple, Beech and Birch) Prepare my own sauces and marinades 2 days before I cook up. Then I cook the lot (including homemade burgers on one of these: http://www.grillsportverein.de/grill-shop/...d25d06b0b8564fb

Gas can and will never match the flavour and finish of using one of these. Plus it is great socialising around it as all the chaps wish to take a turn at the cooking and playing with the fire! laugh.gif
the vicar
QUOTE (canaryman @ Jun 1 2008, 2:28 pm) *
Gas can and will never match the flavour and finish of using one of these.

It would be interesting to have a cook off. Firing up a steam engine on Friday evening sounds like a lot of fun but price tag starting from €1050!!! I'd prefer to hire a couple of strippers to barbecue for me naked for that price.
luvlein
the charcoal lady is classy, the gas grill girl is not.
Andy3535
These grills are exspensive I would never pay that price so I chose to build one myself ...total cost about 150euros!!!
Crawlie
Charcoasl all the way for me. Just bought an awesome new charcoal grill and smoker set, and I just love it. A decent charcoal grill holds the heat for a very long time and proves, ultimately, to be more cost efficient. I use a combination of true charcoal (none of these additive-packed briquette bollocks) and wood and you cannot beat it at all.
ollya
We've got a kettle type charcoal oven/bbq.
If you leave the coals there for a while it gets stupidly hot and sears the outside of your chicken/leg of lamb and traps in all the juice.
Never managed to get a gas one so hot, guessing it's perhaps not possible.
Showem
We have a new gas BBQ and grilled sausages and bacon on it yesterday morning for breakfast for a crowd. Not something I would bother with if it involved fanning coals for 10 minutes and then waiting another 40 minutes until they were all glowing.
lilplatinum
If you want it done quick: gas
If you want it done right: charcoal

Gas is nice for if you like to grill something for yourself after work and don't want a lot of hassle. Charcoals the way to do it for actual BBQS.
bohemka
I've reported this thread as abusive.

Our lease states we can't have a grill.
canaryman
QUOTE (Andy3535 @ Jun 1 2008, 2:47 pm) *
These grills are exspensive I would never pay that price so I chose to build one myself ...total cost about 150euros!!!

The grill on the link that I purchased, when they were a small company 2 years ago, cost less than 400 Euro. Now they are a big company the same grill costs over a grand.

If I had known you, I would have bought one off you biggrin.gif (Unfortunately I didn't so I couldn't).

Still, this type of grill gives the best finish and is by far the most fun and "social" (unless your neighbours do not like odd waft of smoke)
Crawlie
QUOTE (ollya @ Jun 1 2008, 7:26 pm) *
Never managed to get a gas one so hot, guessing it's perhaps not possible.

It is possible if you have a decent gas grill, which will cost you a lot of money. I did look at gas grills because we have a gas hook-up outside, but it is not as simple as it sounds because you need to get a "dual fuel" grill that allows you to hook-up to the mains. Something about the mains gas being a lower pressure than propane or something. All a big con as you pay twice as much for the damn things.
the vicar
Enviromental and health considerations.

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In general, gas grills are better than environmentally than charcoal, says barbecue guru Rick Browne, who hosts public television's "Barbecue America." His latest cookbook, due out in May, is "The Best Barbecue on Earth."
"It's by far the least hazardous to the environment," he says of propane-fueled gas grills. "It's clean (burning). When you turn it on, it's there. You use the heat, and when you turn it off it's gone."
Conversely, charcoal must burn down to the coals to be ready for cooking, and continues burning after the food is cooked, he says. In addition, many people use lighter fluid to start the fire or burn charcoal that's treated with chemicals.
Marti Matsch, Eco-Cycle spokeswoman, agrees that propane is generally better than charcoal for grilling, although still problematic since it is a fossil fuel.
However, she says, the propane canister can be recycled, whereas chemical-infused charcoal leaves toxic residues behind, and any lighter-fluid container requires recycling as hazardous waste.

Source : Greening up your grill

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The best way to reduce the formation of PAHs and HAAS (cancer causing agents) is to try to keep the heat low and cooking times short. Reduce as much as possible the burning of fat and creation of smoke. Of course you still need to reach temperatures that will kill any potential bacteria, but you don't need or want to char foods.

Below are some ways to reduce your chance of dangerous exposure:

Try to cook the foods as far away from the heat source as possible.
Don't let the flames touch the meat.
Keep the heat down. Controlling heat may be somewhat easier with a gas grill than with a charcoal grill. (By the way, a gas grill has not been shown to be any safer than a charcoal grill.)
Use slower-burning woods, such as hardwoods, or slower-burning briquettes.
Use foil or a drip pan. The smoke created from fat dripping on the heat source also contains carcinogens that can then be absorbed by the food. This will prevent the fat from reaching the coals or flames.
If meat does become charred, cut off as much as you can.
Use tongs to flip the food over. A fork will pierce the food, causing juices to drip out and burn.
Eat low-fat cuts of meat, and trim off as much as possible. Likewise, use low-fat marinades. Cut off fat and skin before grilling.
Precook your meats by baking, boiling or microwaving and then just put on the grill at the end to add the flavor.
Don't grill frozen foods, they will char on the outside before the inside is cooked.

Backyard barbecue : Harmful to your health
lilplatinum
QUOTE (the vicar @ Jun 2 2008, 5:37 pm) *
Eat low-fat cuts of meat, and trim off as much as possible. Likewise, use low-fat marinades. Cut off fat and skin before grilling.
Precook your meats by baking, boiling or microwaving and then just put on the grill at the end to add the flavor

Way to suck the fun out of bbqing.

Anyway its crap

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PAHs and HAAs have been shown to cause cancer in animals, however, the link has never been made in humans. Cultural studies have shown that in places where barbecued meats are a big part of the diet there is a higher incidence of stomach cancer.

Correlation, meet causation. You are not the same.
the vicar
I think the only way to settle this is for a cook off. You can bring your cancer causing, enviromental damaging steam engines up to my place and we'll decide it once and for all.
Andy3535
This is how these cancer causing steam engines work!!! [attachment=78071:cactus_sys.jpgThe juices from the meat run out into a small bucket on the und of the bbq and do not come into contact with the glowing coals.
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