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Should the whole world speak English?

British tourists soured by an all-Deutsch holiday

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don_riina
QUOTE (howsthat @ May 31 2008, 9:04 am) *
Surely the whole idea of going abroad is that you experience different cultures - and languages.

No, that is some people's idea of going abroad. For a large proportion of English people, summer holidays are only taken abroad because there is sun and beaches. Fuck culture, certainly fuck "diversity", sun & sea is all that is wanted - in an otherwise 100% English environment; Sky Sports on TV, beer served in pint glasses, fried breakfasts, and no buggering about with foreign languages. The French are no better, it is just that they all go to the south of their country where there is sun & beaches, and they don't have to bother with foreign stuff. If Brighton or Skegness had 35 degree summers, the English would never bother leaving the island in the summer.
Holidays are meant for relaxation, not to experience the hassle of dealing with foreign languages - and it can be a hassle. My missus is a very talented linguist, is well educated, and well travelled, yet even she got a bit pissed off with the fact that she couldn't speak Italian when we were in Italy.
As to "culture", well, what does that even mean? At home, most people don't do "cultural" things, like shite boring galleries or operas or museums, so why on earth are they ever going to do that in the annual 2 week break from work they get?
Chat_Capone
Culture is best defined as language, social movements, mannerisms, style, fashion and trends...not limited to paintings, theatre, literature and music...although they represent said social movements.
Editor Bob
Culture doesn't necessarily mean galleries and museums. I take it more to mean differences in daily life. In Bavaria that would mean eating white sausages and drinking wheat beer before 11am on a weekday, for example. You can't do that in the UK.
don_riina
Cultural to alot of English people means arty stuff - forget the Sun for a moment, look in the Times culture section on a sunday, and it is mostly about stuff like some exhibition that some bloke is running somewhere featuring a collection of crap that he made out of crap he found, under some "urban decay" banner. Yawn.
I think alot of people don't want foreign language and culture getting in the way of 2 weeks of boozing and cooking under the mediterranean sun, and I think the success of Easyjet thoroughly backs my argument.
Moonboot
my mate who works as a trolleydolly for EJ and regularly does the 3 times a day flights Liverpool to Majorca/Menorca/Ibiza/Malaga would agree with you 100% on this point.
tassiedave
I personally of am of the opinion that the whole bloody world should speak proper Aussie English! Lets face it, most of the dialects in england proper sound shit, and nobody can understand a word from people from manchester etc. The american accents are also all over the place, from nasal new york to yokel midwest, its also all crap.

But Aussie English its awesome! Its sounds fun and not to pretentious, has lotsa cool idioms, and sounds the same from perth to syndey, which is about the same distance as from lisbon to moscow. I think it time to set it free and let it go international.
don_riina
QUOTE (tassiedave @ Jun 3 2008, 1:35 pm) *
the whole bloody world should speak proper Aussie English

Don't worry, it is happening; in the 20 odd years since Kylie & Jason first flirted together in Ramsey street twice a day on BBC1, the tonation of English people's voices going up at the end OF EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SENTENCE has been very, very noticable.
tassiedave
^ is a bastard Kiwi corruption, it aint dinkum Aussie at all...

I'm talking about making Aussie English a world standard, so we wont go bringing in any crap from those sheep-shaggers out east...
Editor Bob
It's called uptalk, or more technically the high rising terminal (HRT). And yes, anybody who uses it deserves to die.
cb6dba
Don_riina has a point.

The typical Sun readers idea of a holiday is to pay lot of cash to go somewhere and do what they do normaly at the weekend, but with a little warmth.

Stay at home, save your cash and stop making the rest of the english speaking world look like twats.
Mapleleafdude
I'm for English with a Jamaican accent, even has the added bonus of the work pace slowing down.
Pas
If I could talk like Michael Holding i'd be more than happy. D'ats de coolest voice in da whole waaid wurld.
howsthat
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Jun 3 2008, 1:58 pm) *
It's called uptalk, or more technically the high rising terminal (HRT). And yes, anybody who uses it deserves to die.

To your comment Ed : The first thing that struck me about Aussie English when I visited the country was how sweet the girls sounded with their HRT.
I'd even say it sounded sexy.
Maybe that's why soume Brits are trying to copy it??
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