Insulting a uniformed soldier to be outlawed in UK

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article...awed/article.do


I couldn’t agree less, grown men, with hats like that, wandering the streets. They’ll be made a laughing stock of.
And Prince Harry should stick to British uniforms…

And the UK slips ever closer to being a police state...

The attitude in the first quote led to 35.8% of the mobilized participants in WW I to being killed, maimed or ending up missing. Is that what the UK really wants?

It's depressing that they have to pass a law telling people not to be disrespectful in the first place.

You have to worry about these types of developments.

Exactly what does the UK need to defend abroad that we don't have to know and prod are not as its prob to expensive?

I can understand the law regarding soldiers in uniform, they are servents of the crown much like the police but if we had tough enough laws to crack down on violent behavior in the first place they wouldn't need anything else.

The other funny thing is the tories are now talking abut unemployment boot camps!

Be out of a job for 12 months, in you go to do whatever. Crack someone over the head with something during a robbery, plead broken heart, broken home, poor little diddums and get maybe 6 months inside a real prison.

Its almost as if, not working and therefore not paying tax is more of a crime than assaulting someone.

Hmmmm...Maybe thats the point!

I'm surprised. I have played music in Aldershot for squaddies, No way would i have dremt of insulting them

There are sorts and then there are sorts:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-52...oreign-bar.html

Perhaps part of the reason that respect for British soldiers is now an even bigger issue is a series of newspaper reports last month comparing how Canada and Britain treated their war dead. I don't see a problem in trying to raise the level of respect for a country's armed forces, but am not sure that passing laws is the right way to go about it. Perhaps British government agencies should first step up their own level of acknowledgement. Many folks are certain to follow their lead without special legislation necessary.

Pictures that should shame us all reveal the shabby way Britain treats its fallen heroes
By PETER ALMOND

Oh! For fuck's sake!!! Passing legislation to mumsy a few hardened trained killers to stop them crying in the streets because somebody has called them names? Whatever-fucking-next? They can shoot little brown people to line the pockets of a handful of megalomaniacs, put you can't call them a twat in public because they might break down, cry and run off to their mummies? Politicians? Waste of fucking air (and taxes). Tough on reality, tough on the effects of reality, and tough on the causes of reality. What can we do today to bolster our chances of not getting stuffed up the arse with a marrow in a general election Mr. Brown? Well, there's a backbencher who's got a blinding idea to ban people calling soldiers 'twats', Prime Minister. Brilliant! That'll give the opposition something to think about for a while. Wankers, the bloody lot of them (including HM Opposition). I'm sick and tired of seeing my country going to the dogs because either one set of cunts or another set of cunts are bollocksing it up because they are about as useful as a chocolate teapot put together. Country needs a people's revolution and drown the lot of them in The Thames. If our armed forces can't handle being called a twat in the street by an unarmed civilian, they're going to shit their fuckin' pants when a fuzzy-wuzzie starts shooting real fucking bullets at them. Arseholes!

Apparently, if they go to war the enemy can shoot them but they must also apologise after the event...

I doubt that a squaddie returning from six months in south Afghanistan would be crying in the streets if he was called a twat by a civvie. I'd imagine he would sort it out in his own way. I also think that the majority of the squaddies wouldn't give a shit about this legislation, one way or another.
I remember going to the funeral in Glasgow of two friends murdered by the IRA in the late eighties. The journey from church to crematorium was incredibly similar to the Canadian treatment of their war dead above. Motorways blocked by police motorcyclist, old men and police saluting the cortege, hundreds of people lining the route with their heads bowed, guards of honour. The images of the hearses stuck in the Wiltshire traffic are quite shameful, but is that really the norm?

And of course, under the new soldier discrimination laws, you have to shoot one of your own for every enemy soldier shot. The US has been doing this for decades.

I would never insult a bin man, postman, the guy that drives the London bus at 2am despite having to put up with drunken and often racist abuse, a doctor or a nurse. Those are the people that make the world go round. Thick people with zero political awareness in uniforms are purely by their ignorance a disgrace, but then I can probably run faster than they can ;-)

ITV or the beeb or someone interviewed a few soldiers about this & they all said it wasn't a problem & wished the government would spend the money on proper equipment, I imagine most of the insults any soldiers received was because they were acting like twats rather than the fact they were in uniform.

Exactly! So why bother wasting Hansard paper and taxpayers money on a problem that doesn't exist? Why not approach your local friendly squaddie and explain to him (or her) what a pile of shit the real twats we refer politely to as 'politicians' have dropped them in in the first place, arm them and point them in the right direction? The country is going to the dogs. HM Government haven't got a single vision between them, and HM Opposition seem to only know the best hairdresser in Kensington. The next general election will be about the right to vote for this bunch of arseholes, that bunch of arseholes, or another bunch of arseholes. If it were a company they were running they would all have been fired long, long ago... and with no severence pay to boot.

Insulting a politician, mind. That should be legally enforceable.

Should be fucking compulsory!

exactly my sentiments regarding your post. "Lest we forget" mean anything to you.

Sarabyrd..

would have rather been living under German rule?

Yes I know I know, irony.

It is a complete load of bollocks though when there are far more pressing matters in the UK. I guess in the old days if some snot nosed kid insulted any elder they would have (quite rightly) got a thick ear. No doubt if it happened now the squaddie would be up in court.

Another reason I left our beloved homeland.

Steve

Sounds like a silly attempt to convince the cannon fodder that the government actually cares about them.

Biggest issue is not being sent off to some foreign clime because of the PM's obsession with Jesus (he apparently personally guided the Bliar through his time of doubt over WMD).

They are poorly paid and their families face a lot of pressure, causing many to quit. Some hooligans might insult them but that isn't what they care about - it is the appalling conditions that some families must tolerate and those returning needing long-term care. GW1 was legit and the soldiers didn't mind, Bosnia was also felt to be legit. The issue is that most of the country feel we shouldn't be fighting GW2 and the soldiers feel that apathy. Their families certainly feel the shoddy way that they are treated.

The problem with enforcing this "no insulting a uniformed soldier" is that a person may be a complete winker in or out of uniform. However, they do like to drink a tad to much and they do get into fights (even for fun...) so I could see this rule being misapplied.

Will add my 10d worth when I get over no sleep for 48hrs!

How will people like this be able to do their job if they cannot insult a soldier?

Hmm, seems that Germany already has this law: Beamtenbeleidigung.