Exorcisms in Paderborn

Our progressive, up-to-date, Christian Western society, so critical of Muslim and other theocracies, still permits exorcisms. Ägidius Engel (i.e. angel), the fittingly named spokesman of the Archbishopric of Paderborn, has confirmed that three exorcisms have taken place there, the most recent one in 2003. The Archbishopric, not having the specialists themselves, had to call in a Bavarian expert, thus proving Bavaria’s supremacy in all such fields. According to Engel the subjects were “people suffering severe psychic trauma� who had been evaluated by pastoral psychologists and psychiatrists who could not find any mental illness and declared themselves stumped. In these cases where, according to specialists, “only God can help�, Engel confirms, a “liturgy of liberation� (cute thing to call it) is performed.

Paderborn refuses to name the priest who performed the exorcisms but according to the Bayerischer Rundfunk Bishop Walter Mixa of Augsburg was able to provide a willing helper. Other “persons involved� (so the Bayerischer Rundfunk) have confirmed that exorcisms are practiced on an almost daily basis, mostly unofficially and without informing the diocese. The Augsburg bishop’s office confirmed that exorcism is common as a special prayer said during baptism regarding saving the baby from the powers of evil and irrevocably commending it to the love of Jesus and has nothing to do with the image pushed by the media.

A proper “grand exorcism� is only performed at the subject’s request with a special authorization by the bishop. In two of the three Paderborn cases mentioned the subject sent a letter of gratitude, the third case was aborted.

And providing yet more evidence that Bavaria is indeed the Texas of Germany. Germany's leading provider of exorcists = America's leading provider of televangelists and faith healers. Substitute Catholicism and Bairisch for Baptists and the drawl, and you're there. 'Cept Bayern Muenchen are more frequently near the top of their league table than the Dallas Cowboys are...

(no wonder I kinda feel at home...)

I wonder how the Munich KVR would respond to a request for a residency permit (Aufenthaltserlaubnis) on the basis of such credentials and professional ambition.

Ha ha...there's no way I would call Bavaria, or even the BRD, a progressive, up-to-date society !!!

Without hesitation I would call England, or even the UK, the most progressive, up-to-date society on earth !!!


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Would exorcisms be allowed on Sundays and religious holidays or would that also be banned along with the washing of cars and grass cutting. I suppose it would depend if the extortion of evil spirits is considered a Christian past time. Not knowing many or any exorcisists myself I couldn't say. It could just be a past time of these high up knobs in the Catholic church here and nothing really to do with their REAL vocation...dunno really!!

Priests who can deliver us from evil

I think is not wise to laugh and make fun about something you don't know. If it is true that the devil's existence has never been proved, it is also true that his/her non-existence had not been proved yet neither.

Verbal, "The Usual Suspects": The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

So where is Austin in Bavaria?


Same goes for puff the magic dragon.

which explains rather neatly why there are so many ex-pats here or chose to bring their children up here, cos it's such a fucked up crime-ridden society and you've got the stats to back that up right???
Next.

Wooooooaaaaaah. Hold up there.

Let us assume for one moment that both God and the Devil totally exist man, and that the devil sometimes possesses people. Why then does it take the intervention of some crusty old child-molesting bloke in crappy non-jedi robes and a silly white dog collar to exorcise that demon? Why can the all-powerful, all-seeing god not just sort it out before some mere mortal steps in to wield the power of christ?

I thought God was all about choice and free will? Yeah? That's why we can sin, because god gave us the gift to choose to do so if we so wish. Being possessed is hardly done by choice, and if you did choose to be possessed, then god and his celebate halatosis ridden clergymen should not be bloody allowed to intervene anyway.
Any way you look at it, it is all a load of bollacks.

I think it's really sad that it's still going on, especially after the botched exorcism of Anneliese Michel (AKA Emily Rose), which also took place in Bavaria and got so much media attention. It's so sick what they did to that poor girl.

Maybe God does exist and he was responsible for tripping up JT on his run up to the ball.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I don't think what you wrote makes much sense, and however you clearly have some good reasons to be very angry with the Church and priests. Yet, I am not trying to convince you and anybody else - it is not Toytown the best place for such a discussion - about the existence of God and/or devil. But I do repeat that it would be wiser to be more respectfull and doubtfull towards such transcendent topics.

wow this is really funny

Making the sign of the cross is one of the most basic forms of an exorcism.
That would mean there are thousands of exorcisms performed per Mass, as each congregant makes the sign of the cross multiple times in that hour or so.

Yeh, good one. I can't prove that fairies and the flying spaghetti monster don't exist either. Does that mean I should seriously consider the arguments of people that believe they exist?

Of fucking course not. Just because you can't prove something doesn't exist, doesn't mean you have to seriously consider that it does.

Christianity is equally as backward as Islam, it just happens that our western society is more foreward thinking, modern and progressive than most Islamic societies and therefore drags the lumping mass of shit that Christianity is forward with it, no matter how hard the clergy try to stop it.

On a somewhat related side note, I noticed that one of McCains possible vice candidate choices, Bobby Jindal, wrote a serious article to the New Oxford Review in 1994 which suggests he saw someone posessed by a demon (http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal). Even more worrying are the comments on this page, where the guy actually gets respect for his craziness, like this:


Isn't it funny how the only people to witness such stuff are those that are already brainwashed. My cousin in Australia is a crazy nutcase Baptist. He swears to me that he saw an amputee have his leg grown back by the power of god in some type of Jesus summoning. I believe religion is a crock of shit, but frankly, if someone could show me a leg being regrown, I'd believe that shit in a second.