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Wee Mun
cricket, since the world cup is on
butler_helen
possibly a better suggestion. Though perhaps websites and the internet would be more of an alround topic for anyone?
planetmoni
QUOTE (Wee Mun @ Mar 26 2007, 3:58 pm) *
cricket, since the world cup is on

who killed woolmer ?
Exile
Cartoon characters!
SleeplessInMunich
Hi everyone, just here to let you know that althought the Arc has changed hands, the quiz is still on as usual at the same time tonight and every Monday.
So come on down, test your knowledge and have a bit of a laugh as well. Newbies are very welcome and people looking for teams can usually find spare places beforehand if they just show up.
Hope to see you there tonight and as I still have a couple of rounds to do, you can leave suggestions here and maybe I will include questions about that topic later on.

Cheers,
SIM.
Yeti
Should be load of brain cells lying around the Arc after Friday night. I know I left a significant amount of them after me. I am unsure as to their suitability for quizes though.
SleeplessInMunich
QUOTE (Yeti @ Apr 2 2007, 9:29 am) *
Should be load of brain cells lying around the Arc after Friday night. I know I left a significant amount of them after me.

Obviously, seeing as the party was on Saturday night tongue.gif
Yeti
See what I mean, the quiz hasn't even started and I'm getting stuff wrong already.
Uncle Nick
Who's going tonight?
OHDFC Colin
I'll be there
libby
Is there any room on a team for a newcomer to Munich?
SleeplessInMunich
Of course there is libby. Just show up and somebody is bound to have a spare place.
SleeplessInMunich
I still have to finish off a few bits of the quiz so if anybody has a suggestion or 2 for a 1-2-4 round or a normal round then mention them here and you might be lucky for tonight.
SleeplessInMunich
Okay people its quiz night again at at the arc tonight. Don't let that sunny weather put you off coming along. Too much exposure to sunlight causes your skin to age faster so you'd be better off sitting inside for a bit with some cool drinks and hearty food and exercising your brains. Newbies are very welcome as always and even if you don't have a team you can just show up before and there are usually spare places available or just post here and ask if anybody needs a team member or would like to form a team with you.

Hope to see you there later,
Darren.
SleeplessInMunich
A new rule to be brought in from next Monday: If you challenge me over an answer and you turn out to be wrong then your team get 4 points deducted from their score!!!
Uncle Nick
4 Points is a bit harsh!

Edit: will the team get a bonus point if the challenge was correct?
Timmeh
Don't be wrong then, simple.
SleeplessInMunich
Yeah but at least people will make sure they are correct before challenging me.
SleeplessInMunich
QUOTE (Uncle Nick @ Apr 24 2007, 2:47 pm) *
will the team get a bonus point if the challenge was correct?

I wás thinking of it but it might just encourage people to hog the computer while they try to pick holes in every single answer I had.
BadDoggie
QUOTE (SleeplessInMunich @ Apr 24 2007, 2:40 pm) *
A new rule to be brought in from next Monday: If you challenge me over an answer and you turn out to be wrong then your team get 4 points deducted from their score!!!

I haven't been and in talking to those who have and reading this kind of shit, I don't know why anyone would go. Who the fuck wants to relax after work under a fucking taskmaster? That shit's gotta be one of the most inane and petulant things I've seen here.

Instead of getting your panties in a bunch because people dare to challenge oh-so-infallible you, integrate that shit into the quiz with an intentional wrong (but plausible) answer. Plus 2 points for successfully challenging, minus one for incorrectly challenging. No more than one in 10-20 questions.

woof.
SleeplessInMunich
Ah boo hoo BadDoggie, what do you know? Lots of people go because they enjoy it. Any time you feel like showing up and amazing everybody with your big brain then you are more than welcome but unless you want me to tell you how to do your job then STFU.
BadDoggie
QUOTE (SleeplessInMunich @ Apr 24 2007, 10:57 pm) *
Ah boo hoo BadDoggie, what do you know?

I know that a few people have commented to me about a downhill slide and I've read your petulant "Don't you fuckers dare question me!" post. Not the end-all and be-all, but it's certainly a start.

>Lots of people go because they enjoy it.
You're using the present tense were the past perfect or simple past would be more appropriate. The comments following your post tend to support my hypothesis.

> Any time you feel like showing up
Sadly I run a bar Monday nights.

> but unless you want me to tell you how to do your job then STFU.
I'm not telling you how to do your job. IS it your job? Or do you do it for fun? Either way, I'm not telling you what to do or how to do it, I'm telling you how you fucking come across with such acrimonious rubbish like that which you posted here concerning people challenging an answer. I didn't call you names and I even gave you a suggestion on how to use it to add a new twist to the damned quiz. Rather than consider it, your knee jerked and you threw your toys out of the pram.

Ask yourself this: "Why the fuck is he even posting on this thread?"

I clearly have little direct personal interest due to my conflicting obligations. I don't have any vedetta; we've met before and I don't think you're a complete twat (though you may feel otherwise about me). So why the fuck am I here? To spew bile? I have a well-read blog for that as well as other sites where shitting on each other is an art form. I see a problem here and I wrote what others didn't want to publicly (no, I really have no shame), and I offered you a suggestion on how to cut down on the annoyance factor, turn the questioning into a game itself, and possibly make the quiz itself a bit more interesting.

I'm interested in the site and the community. When friends PM me in outrage over such meaningless shit as the silly third-grader rules you posted above, I'm reminded how this place isn't just another Intarwebs board. It's a place where most of us know each other and where the words and actions of some have rather clear and direct effects on others.

I'm hardly some "Can't we all just get along?" kind of canine. Au contraire. But jeebus wept, dude! The event's supposed to be fun. The cash involved is miniscule. Who needs a bunch of bossy rules after a long day of work and a couple beers?

woof.
Marshbot
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 24 2007, 5:16 pm) *
I haven't been and in talking to those who have and reading this kind of shit, I don't know why anyone would go. Who the fuck wants to relax after work under a fucking taskmaster?

He's a quizmaster, not a taskmaster. Actually, many people can have fun and relax even when somebody else has all the answers.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 24 2007, 5:16 pm) *
Instead of getting your panties in a bunch because people dare to challenge oh-so-infallible you, integrate that shit into the quiz with an intentional wrong (but plausible) answer. Plus 2 points for successfully challenging, minus one for incorrectly challenging. No more than one in 10-20 questions.

Disagree, it's not that offends Sleepless when someone challenges him but that it makes it a much later night for a large number of people, even if only a few are constantly challenging (because they think they are most probably, definitely, maybe right). Other quiz nights I've seen have had some kind of deterrent for smarty-pantses who are generally more time consuming than correct, or have I just been to brutal quiz nights??

Obviously contrary to your reports Bad Doggie, it's usually a pretty full pub on Mondays and a couple of these types can hold up everyone. It's not that Sleepless thinks he's smarter than you, it's just that he's had time to research the answer and the rest of the pub might prefer to trust him than the drunken genius.
If, on the other hand, everyone else is happy to have an open-ended finish time - then I'm sure they could change to rules so the quizmaster gets quizzed every question too. No need to be a princess about it.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 25 2007, 12:43 am) *
>Lots of people go because they enjoy it.
You're using the present tense were the past perfect or simple past would be more appropriate. The comments following your post tend to support my hypothesis.

You have a hypothesis about a quiz night you don't go to? OK. Well, like Sleepless said, come along and test out your hypothesis. I think you'll enjoy yourself as much as everyone else.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 24 2007, 5:16 pm) *
I see a problem here and I wrote what others didn't want to publicly (no, I really have no shame), and I offered you a suggestion on how to cut down on the annoyance factor, turn the questioning into a game itself, and possibly make the quiz itself a bit more interesting.

I'm interested in the site and the community. When friends PM me in outrage over such meaningless shit as the silly third-grader rules you posted above, I'm reminded how this place isn't just another Intarwebs board. It's a place where most of us know each other and where the words and actions of some have rather clear and direct effects on others.

Well, you offered a suggestion but also basically reviewed the evening based on apparently "outraged" PM's sent to you about quiz rules on a night you never attend. OK, well - criticism is all good and fine but don't blame it on anonymous friends and don't pretend Sleepless was only responding to your innocent and helpful suggestion.

The quiz is pretty open to runnng how the quizzers who go would most like it... so send these people who are outraged yet shamed to chat to the quizmaster (or the staff if he's too scary). Nothing is set in stone, it's not a problem - but talking would be better than simply demanding new rules based on second hand information.

If anyone is too shamed (or polite, more likely) to say anything good or bad publicly then I know the arc is more than happy to recieve PM's from you, ideas, moans, compliments.. whatever. It's never been a place for hard & fast rules. For those that PM'd BadDoggie with complaints about how the quiz is set up, I reckon if you send the same comments to the pub or Sleepless then something could have been done about them already. As per other businesses on TT, complain to people running the thing first so they can actually do something about it before angry 'brave' posts appear in public.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 24 2007, 5:16 pm) *
The event's supposed to be fun. The cash involved is miniscule. Who needs a bunch of bossy rules after a long day of work and a couple beers?

Looks like people are having fun to me.
The cash may be miniscule to you but it's more than I earn in a day. Those who take the quiz there always look pretty happy to walk out with it. Who are you to judge how much cash is miniscule to someone else?
To your last question: plenty of people, obviously.

@Sleepless: Maybe see what consensus you can gather from here to get an idea, but do some voting or questioning on the night. There's quite a few people who go regularly who are not TT'ers so you should include them too. I would have thought 1 or 2 points would be enough deterrent.. enough so if they are really sure they will still challenge you but won't just challenge every answer cos they fancy a stab at it. And maybe 1 point if you correct the quizmaster.

Anyone else who plays (or who wants to play) think that sounds fairer than 4 points? Or are these challengers really in need of a major deterrent?
billybob
l think it's a good quiz when it runs smoothly and people don't take it too seriously
if everyone questions dazza's answers then it's going to drag on a bit
let's just keep the quizmaster's decision is final rule if possible - if he's messed it up then no worries - order an other beer and carry on
he can't be right all the time

most places in munich on a monday night are pretty dead - the arc (in winter, dunno about summer) is often chocca - dazza must be doing a good job if so
Janx Spirit
Jesus Christ BadDoggie, who pissed in your Daiquiri?
Timmeh
@BD: sand, vagina.

I reckon the quiz is ace and SIM does a thuper job doing it too, good work. I would come more often but I have stoopid Germish classes on Mondays.
Topsy
unbelievable comments, really, from someone who's never even been to the quiz
SleeplessInMunich
I'm not really going to be docking people 4 points. That is too harsh. I wrote that post in semi-jest but trying to make a serious point. If I have an answer wrong then yes I would like to be corrected but please go an research it first on the computer and then show me the source. I have no problems with admitting I may have made a mistake but I have said before to people, if you have something then find it first and show it to me then. I'm not just accepting your word as fact and doing the research for you. I've have already spent a lot of time and effort researching and putting the quiz together the week before and I don't need to be doing your research in the pub again.

As for all these outraged people, well honestly I'd love to know who they are. And what they find me too scary to approach or say something to so instead they go running to BadDoggie, one of the all time scariest people on TT? Give me a break. Downhill slide? Yeah right rolleyes.gif Things always get a bit quieter during the beer garden season. Its always been the case and will continue to be the case. The numbers increase again in the winter. Its not rocket science BadDoggie.
Topsy
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 25 2007, 12:43 am) *
I know that a few people have commented to me about a downhill slide

ohmy.gif I only just read this...
what "downhill slide"? there are definitely more people there these days than there were before SiM took it over.

are the "downhill slide" detractors also people - like yourself - who've never been?

I think he does a fab job. Dr Matt's quizzes were good, but - and I admit Dazza is my mate and I might be a bit biased - I don't see a downward slide at all. If anything the opposite.
Exile
i didn't know it was possible to flounce from something you don't go to. Ah! the possibilities.
Hazza
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 25 2007, 12:43 am) *
Sadly I run a bar Monday nights.

I wonder if that bar gets anywhere near the numbers that The Arc does on Monday nights...
BadDoggie
Not regularly, but then again we're not running a special event, and I've consciously and intentionally avoided trying to get some meet or TT event to take place there, especially on nights when something else was planned. Were it my own place things might be different but I'd likely try to find a non-competitive niche.

As far as SiM and the damned quiz, I'm a disinterested party, dragged into it because I decided to throw open some shit that at certain people mentioned or outright complained about to me in private. But every time I re-read SiM's comment I come to the same conclusion: he's being petulant. Maybe he puts a lot of work into his research, I don't know. I know answers have been wrong before. Hell, shows like Mythbusters and Penn & Teller's Bullshit! have full-time research teams and they still get shit wrong. The vetting process for every single question on WWTbaM is long and tedious, and requires corroborating first sources wherever possible.

woof.
SleeplessInMunich
Ah, so you are just fighting the fight for some people who are too scared to speak their own mind? Wonderful. what do you get out of it?
Its not being petulant. I have no problem with people correcting me. In fact I welcome it if I have actually made a mistake. But questioning me without having researched it first by going to the computer and having something to show me is just wasting my time when I am already busy enough. I have researched the answers and yes I do put a lot of time and effort into the quiz. So to challenge my answers you should at least have something proper to show me rather than just your word on it. Obviously if something is clearly a mistake and numerous people notice it then fair enough but I shouldn't have to go and do the research for a 2nd time on one of my questions just because you disagree with it.
Hazza
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 25 2007, 4:47 pm) *
Not regularly, but then again we're not running a special event, and I've consciously and intentionally avoided trying to get some meet or TT event to take place there, especially on nights when something else was planned. Were it my own place things might be different but I'd likely try to find a non-competitive niche.

As far as SiM and the damned quiz, I'm a disinterested party, dragged into it because I decided to throw open some shit that at certain people mentioned or outright complained about to me in private. But every time I re-read SiM's comment I come to the same conclusion: he's being petulant. Maybe he puts a lot of work into his research, I don't know. I know answers have been wrong before. Hell, shows like Mythbusters and Penn & Teller's Bullshit! have full-time research teams and they still get shit wrong. The vetting process for every single question on WWTbaM is long and tedious, and requires corroborating first sources wherever possible.

woof.

BadDoggie, you of all people should know that when you run an event at a bar, you will never be able to please everyone. If you do karaoke, people will specifically NOT come because it's on, same holds for Live Music, Whiskey tastings, American football or cricket and of course, hosting a quiz. There are even 2 aspects to the Quiz (as with karaoke and whiskey tastings) and that is people who don't like the host. And it doesn't matter who is running the show, there'll always be someone who doesn't like how things are run. However - and I would have expected you to know this - if it's a long-standing event and if it fills the place up (which the quiz at The Arc does), management (and the quiz master) shouldn't really give a flying fuck about a couple of people that complain about it - and especially those who don't make management aware of their complaints and go and have a whinge to a bartender somewhere else.

As you know, it's bums on seats that count. So call him petulent if you like, and critcise his style (which I think is also quite difficult to do without having ever attended) but he gets those bums on seats. Which means that enough people enjoy the quiz there and enjoy his style of hosting.
Bavaroo
WTF is wrong with that Doggie?

If you don't like a quiz then leave us alone! Stop spamming useless comments!
You definately have NO IDEA what the quiz at the Arc is about!
Don't judge something you don't know!

btw SIM I like that 4 points more or less rule! kinda cool because I sometimes find some things (afterwards) where you aren't quite correct...and the 4 points less makes this rule unattractive for knowalls...
Wee Mun
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Apr 25 2007, 4:47 pm) *
I've consciously and intentionally avoided trying to get some meet or TT event to take place there

Doubt you would get anyone to go anyway if they read some of the arrogant pish you post on here.

Any pub quizzer knows, the quizmaster's answer is final. Fucking anal retentives check that answers in a pub quiz are correct, then go home and try to pass those rusks they ate when they were 2.
SleeplessInMunich
Okay people, just to let you know that the quiz is on tonight as usual in the Arc. And seeing as tomorrow is a holiday I would like to invite down all those people who usually can't make because of work the following day. biggrin.gif
Hope to see you there tonight.

Dazza
SleeplessInMunich
Ha...for those of you that missed the quiz tonight...well what can say except we had naked women here!!! tongue.gif
The Arc
That was quite some quiz night yesterday!
I personally left The Arc at around 5.30 this morning after cleaning the residue fresh cream from the floor and a certain chair.
The Arc
(I'm also waiting for the photos to appear in the TT Gallery)
Sin
I have some questions relating to last night:

1. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ME??? (as in, why was my head stuck to the pillow when I woke up, where is my right shoe and, why does it hurt when I pee?)

2. Who the Hell are Michela, Fransi, Verena and Tilde, and why are these names written on my chest in lipstick?

3. What quiz?
Malt-Teaser
1. Sin, you probably don't want to know!
As for your right shoe - There is a selection of jackets and jumpers left from last night, but as yet, no shoes.
As for hurting - Was it anything to do with the cream?

2. Only 4 names? How come you didn't get all the rest to sign?

3. Ah yes, the quiz.
Malt-Teaser
On a slightly more serious note:

There was one dark jacket left at The Arc yesterday evening (this morning) and it looks like someone else went home with the wrong jacket.
So, if you wake up this morning with a jacket not belonging to you and some strange keys in the pockets (car and home keys!), please contact me ASAP at The Arc as I probably have your jacket and one other person would like his jacket and keys returning.

Thanks!
Sin
Thanks Malt-Teaser, I've emailed The Mafia (most of whom are not Toytowners) your message about the jacket with your contact numbers.
Sin
Cream? unsure.gif

Rest??? blink.gif
Malt-Teaser
As all the Mafia were wearing similar jackets, the wrong one was obviously taken by mistake, not intent. But I will offer a reward of a free beer for anyone returning the said jacket and keys.
MT / Arc
Sin
I just found my jacket, so it wasn't me.
Malt-Teaser
Did it have your shoe in one of the pockets? laugh.gif
Sin
No, but it had two water pistols and a luminous stick thingy in the pockets.

I lost a bow-tie, if you find one. It's a black, proper tying bow-tie in a plastic wallet. I left it in my jacket when I came out and it isn't there now.
Yeti
Cream, lost jackets and Sin coming out?

The Arc was a cauldron of seeting, roiling something or other last night then.
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