Censorship on this forum

I would agree with Editor Bob removing those comments, But sometimes comments like that are not removed.

It is important to be consistant. I rember some time ago I was admonished for making a personel attack on someone, my comment was removed, but if the thread had been examined it was started by someone else and i was in fact only responding to a personal attack on me, but their comments attacking me were left and mine was removed. I did not make an issue of it at the time but felt I had been unfairly treated.

well leave then if you don't like it

errr wrong. The onus (or is that anus?) is the person making the accusation/claim/whatever to be able to proove it is true or there is reason to believe it is true.

Owain Glyndwr is still pissed off with me because I pointed out his ridiculous statement of his father being a pilot at BA for 45 years.

Did it happen? Yep. Otherwise I wouldn't have said so. I remember one post in particular where I'd put a little remark at the end to make it clear that the post was meant in good humour - that remark "disappeared" as by magic,which completely altered the tone of the post. Maybe the mod in question didn't consider the remark necessary... I'll never know because I never got a notification. That wasn't the only incident of that kind either. Moreover a couple of my posts were deleted in their entirety, none of those contained any profanities... maybe the mod in question considered them too childish or uninteresting or whatever - I'll never know because I never got a notification.

Can I prove any the above? Nope - I wouldn't know how.

Btw it's bullshit to assume that people are 'ok' with the edits just because they don't complain to the mods about them (@ Keydeck) - what point is there in complaining to a mod who just edited your post and didn't even find it necessary to inform you about it? The whole thing isn't a big deal but it certainly doesn't make this board more attractive to its users.

just to let you know, actually no posts are actually removed or threads removed. they just get moved to areas of the board that us normal mortals can't see

LittleSprite, if you can remember which post of yours was edited, and what the removed remark was, I might be able to offer an explanation. Otherwise, you're just spreading FUD.

I thought somewhere under xtra there was a record of Mod activity?

Therein lies your problem. Well one of your many problems. If you contact the moderators then I'm quite sure they will tell you why your post was removed. It may even have been a mistake. I met a some of the moderators many years ago in a dark bar. A couple of them are almost human, they can make mistakes.

Also, have you checked your removed posts page? Any full posts zapped should be in there and a reason given.

It might be less satisfying to you, but it would probably be more productive and helpful to you if you approach the issue like an adult instead of whinging like a little kid.

To my knowledge I have only had one post edited (ironically on this social structure of Wedding thread) and once I was informed of the circumstances by PM by Editor Bob I was more than happy with the edit and apologised for any inconvenience caused


Not entirely true. My post was edited because I had inadvertently mentioned something that it is against this boards policy to publically mention. But how could I know if they can't publically mention it? Editor Bob kindly saved me from the detail of the matter but gave the impression that it was a 'political issue'


I'm not so sure. People are often criticised for not using the search function enough but sometimes people can go to the other extreme and cite incessently. I shudder to think what some posters would make of this capability. Personally happy with the status quo.

You can look it up, usually an explanation is given when a post is deleted. Profanity isn't the only requirement. Recently I posted a youtube video to a more-or-less worthless thread, and it was removed... reason: it contributed nothing. Fair enough.

Life moves on.

Thanks, but I rather bring it up here...for other people to read about.


Wouldn't that be "the anus is on the person"?

Check here: http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85...2F5C32E716A6D52

What you mean is libel - which by definition must be an untruthful statement...not a statement that hasn't been proven to be true.

I was just stating the facts (since Tom asked about them). As I said - no big deal, but not exactly something that makes this board more attractive.

Keydeck, I'm not the one getting personal here - you are. So who's not approaching this issue like an adult?

You forgot the "Na-na-na-na-na-na!" and a " "

I'm not the one complaining, sweetheart. If I take issue with a policy pertaining to a business such as Toytown Germany then I will approach it in the appropriate manner. If I am just addressing a whiney little shit then I will modify my response accordingly.

I'd say that posting about it in a thread about "censorhip on this forum" is the correct manner. Unless there's censorhip on this forum of course...

huh? i didn't even know you'd replied to that post. Yeah it was a typo. It was only 35 odd years service, not 45 (and the service date starts with the BA predecessor company he worked for; Cambrian Airways which was a regional subsidiary of BEA which was one of the two companies merged into BA). He joined in his early twenties and retired aged 60. you do the maths.

It was edited out. They probably considered it superflous...

Not true actually. If issues concerning moderation policies were addressed in the appropriate manner then there most likely wouldn't have been a thread in the first place.

OG you must have had a really high education if you describe basic subtraction as maths.
OG you really are bull shitting if you say you didn't see the reply to your "my dad worked at BA fro 45 years" bull shit post.

It's got a decent thread going at last anyway.

Recently it had to do with China and it's people in all their forms or photoshop.

At least we get to slag off the overlords mods and fight between ourselves on this one.

By the way, TPWNN is a big southern, bed wetting, shandy drinking jessie.

Maybe you should see this thread as a chance to point out what you consider an "appropriate manner" - instead of personally attacking people - and listen to people's complaints to see if some things might need to be improved? Btw it's a bit of a joke to say that moderation on this board is directed at stopping/preventing fights and then post the way you did...

You seem to think I am someone that I am not. Where did I mention anything to do with "stopping/preventing fights"?

www.getalife.com

BB what would you classify subtraction as, then? Art?

It's funny that people can't differentiate between a personal attack and a general opinion.

General opinion (permitted by forum guidelines) - Berlin is an arsehole
Personal attack (not permitted by forum guidelines) - FirstCitizen is an arsehole

Simple really.

I consider it a bad day if at least five of my posts are not deleted.
Arithmetic Ruthie.

Fight Fight Fight Fight!

BB isn't math (or as some islanders say, "maths") exactly the same thing as arithmetic?

No Ruthie it is not. And you are getting in the way of the fight.

Arithmetic is a branch of Maths. By the way the Mathematics Department at University College Dublin is part of the Arts Faculty - so subtraction is clearly an art form!

I can only do sums. One day I hope to be able to do the arithmatithic thingy

Nicely put, Colin!

Gosh, I feel stupid now. I took Calculus and thought it was a kind of math. Must go work on my definitions...

Edit: I stand corrected. We never really used the word "arithmetic" in school. We learned basic math, then geometry, then trigonometry, calculus, etc...and it was all lumped under math. Now I know better.

What fight? Fighting with you is like challenging a one-legged man to an ass-kicking contest*

*colinmanning please note: this is an example of a personal attack and it will get removed when the mods see it or someone reports it.

Ruthie -You feel like you sound.

I am surprised you would lower yourself to talk to me ER - If I had one leg I would only hope it would be my middle one.

I never said that calling someone an arsehole was within the forum guidelines - what I said that in appropriate circumstances, I think it should be OK. By the way FirstCitizen's comment was that "Wedding is the arsehole of northern europe" - as was pointed out earlier, FirstCitizen clearly makes very stylish use of the English language!

FirstCitizen expressed an opinion, albeit a negative one that people might not agree with but not a personal attack. You posted a personal attack which is against forum guidelines which then got deleted, it's not that difficult to understand.

This is a successful forum and owes it's success at least in part to the moderating team. The forum doesn't conform to suit you, you conform to suit the forum or you leave.

The peasants are revolting.

I find BB especially revolting. Didn't know he was a peasant...

I thought it was the Paying advertisers that makes it a sucsess...

I was a mod once, in a land far, far away, and I would never do it again. It sucks. The most annoying moments are those in which board members try to start anti-mod uprisings, fighting for their rights on an anonymous internet board. God were those tiring.

The owner had enough-- the complaints and the complaints about the complaints and so on were clogging up all discussions-- and had to make the executive decision than anything remotely unfriendly was summarily removed-- with the eventual effect that the membership dumbed down, smart and funny posters left, and chatter was reduced to the most boring, inane blather imaginable.

A HUGE problem was that all changes, edits, and deletes were clearly marked for all to see, and stupid people would constantly get up in arms about even the most obvious or innocent moderating. Therefore the policy here of stealth modding is, in my opinion, excellent. Even when I think it's gone too far (which it does sometimes, but so fucking what? It's the INTERNET.)

I just waiting for this to merge with the flounce thread.

I think we have now sufficiently demonstrated what happens when no censorship takes place...

The thing is you can be entirely rude and put someone down, without being modded. You just need to be selective with your language. It's not rocket surgery as Monsieur Keydeck would say.

I think Ruthie really lost it there. Difficult to converse with someone when they go ballistic.

I am surprised that you didnt offend any other fat Americans with your "Stereo-typical" comment!

you must have no education at all if you didn't know that subtraction was mathematics. Unlike you I don't sit all day and read every single post on TT. I have no reason to lie about not seeing your reply to my post. In fact I only just found your reply


not tue. Captains retired at 60. At least that was the case when my dad retired. IF you don't believe me I can get to fax through a copy of the award he was given comommorating his length of service.

Well I think that when posts are removed, that a reason is often stored in the database as to why it was removed (could be wrong but I thought I saw something like that on a statistics page). I don't think that it would be so much more difficult to add a word "Deleted" or "Edited" in light grey colour with a tooltip showing the reason and a link to the original text. This way, the content is not harder to read and if the user wishes to know why, they can move the mouse pointer over the word. TT could have a policy that the explanations will be provided lik ethis and will not be further explained (or only in exceptional circumstances maybe).

Are we also not liable personally for what we write on the forums? If so, and the moderators change something without making it clear it has changed and we may be personally liable for those changes...

Okay OG you win, go away now - have a nice life. Please dont fax me anything.