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I hate Germany too
A rant for others also currently stuck here
This nitpicking is getting depressing. Come on people, we're all English speakers in Germany, we're in here together right? If you don't like Germany you don't have to live here - it's as simple as sending your resume or CV to companies back home, getting a new job and getting your things together and getting on the aeroplane. Spending time in a foreign country is an experience and if you don't enjoy it you've still learned something about yourself, you've got something to put on your CV or to talk about back home, and if it makes you realise there's no place like home, then lucky you because home can't be that bad after all.
amen to matthewsmith!
QUOTE (therealjade @ Apr 14 2008, 1:40 pm) 
points 2.1 -2.4 of the link I posted describe the situation as it is at the moment. Enter "annual canvass" in google and you will find links to every council-site in the UK with details of how registration is compulsory and failure to register can lead to a fine.
You be correct.
http://www.mendip.gov.uk/CouncilService.as...SX9452-A7808B60
£1,000 fine is a bit steep though.
Yeah, but as far as I'm concerned the point was the fact you don't have to go somewhere to inform them that you've moved. This describes a totally different scenario. They send a letter and you have to send it back
EDIT - actually, I've seen that there was another argument going on about whether or not is compulsory to go on the electoral register and I guess this is what that post above was about. I'll shut up and go away now!
EDIT - actually, I've seen that there was another argument going on about whether or not is compulsory to go on the electoral register and I guess this is what that post above was about. I'll shut up and go away now!
QUOTE (Flannery @ Apr 14 2008, 1:03 pm)
'shottie' was allowed to continue to post his vile with impunity. It's the Brits forum. So I guess we have to get used to it.
Vile is an adjective and you are expected to be able to speak English according to the forum statutes.
Might this have been the problem.
Goodbye. I have issues.
One thing no one has mentioned is I think that many Germans are just jealous of US citizens...there's so much infiltration of US style everything here (that it even makes me sick!) but they just can't get it right...besides having such a government that oppresses its' citizens...I'd be miserable too I suppose...
For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
@Hey RD, that sounds like a you want people to reply with why they are not indeed jealous and then drag the Americans forum users to hit back.
I'm not german and can leave if I like, all I would need is the plane fair home. How you raise that is something the person has to decide on. You could sell all your stuff to raise the cash.
I can even look for a job while I am here and planning to go home, people who post here have managed to get jobs in other countries while here.
I'm not german and can leave if I like, all I would need is the plane fair home. How you raise that is something the person has to decide on. You could sell all your stuff to raise the cash.
I can even look for a job while I am here and planning to go home, people who post here have managed to get jobs in other countries while here.
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 2:10 pm)
For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
Air France will fly you to New York for €374,49 at the moment. I'd have thought that if someone hates this place so much, they could raise that amount somehow, then they would be back in the land where everything is wonderful! I can't imagine staying here if I hated it so much.
aaaaaaaaarrrrggghh, why is this thread still going? Can't it just die.
Marsha posted something extreme. I don't doubt that her sentiment was authentic but the words were thumpingly insensitive to post to a site with expats who have chosen Germany as their preferred residence and Germans who speak English. But it just seems the arguments are being rehashed again and again page after page without any real development. Most of the important points were made within the first three pages. I would imagine Marsha probably wishes this thread would die and so do I.
Marsha posted something extreme. I don't doubt that her sentiment was authentic but the words were thumpingly insensitive to post to a site with expats who have chosen Germany as their preferred residence and Germans who speak English. But it just seems the arguments are being rehashed again and again page after page without any real development. Most of the important points were made within the first three pages. I would imagine Marsha probably wishes this thread would die and so do I.
You could become a sperm doner like me at 20 euros a pop,I could raise that cash in a day.The thing is i don`t want to leave my DNA is just far to valuable to the Germans plus i love it here,
I'm just bored mindless at work and this is the only thread on TT with any life today.
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 12:10 pm)
..I'd be miserable too...
well (Marsha?) you do indeed sound very miserable!
I've been in Germany nearly 20 years, of course there are always things that annoy me here from time to time, which I think is normal when you're living amongst a different culture to your own.
having said that, if I lived back in the UK there'd be stuff there that annoyed me too.
if I wasn't happy living here, I'd save up and leave instead of moaning about it.
QUOTE (gentle jim @ Apr 14 2008, 2:25 pm)
You could become a sperm doner like me at 20 euros a pop,I could raise that cash in a day.The thing is i don`t want to leave my DNA is just far to valuable to the Germans plus i love it here,
hmmm this could be the solution to the Germany football team problem sort of backdoor infiltration
LittleShite loves living in Germany, so she does.
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 2:10 pm)
One thing no one has mentioned is I think that many Germans are just jealous of US citizens...
What exactly is it that you think they are jealous of, just kinda wondering
I'm jealous of their freedom.
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 2:10 pm)
One thing no one has mentioned is I think that many Germans are just jealous of US citizens...there's so much infiltration of US style everything here (that it even makes me sick!) but they just can't get it right...besides having such a government that oppresses its' citizens...I'd be miserable too I suppose...
For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
New poster, 2 posts, both in this thread after Marsha "left", both about how oppressive Germany is...
Hi Marsha! *waves*
@Littlesprite..How dare you suggest that...
And here I was just about to say RD was nothng more than a troll trying to stir things up
And here I was just about to say RD was nothng more than a troll trying to stir things up
QUOTE (timezoner @ Apr 14 2008, 2:29 pm)
hmmm this could be the solution to the Germany football team problem sort of backdoor infiltration
priceless
Thank god I am on vacation right now and can read the thread without having a bad conscience. C'mon people!
QUOTE (Eugene_ac @ Apr 14 2008, 2:38 pm)
priceless
True - though I got a feeling that "backdoor infiltration" won't work...
*Tries to drag mind out of gutter...fails...*
QUOTE (gentle jim @ Apr 14 2008, 2:25 pm)
You could become a sperm doner like me
Sperm doner kebab or sperm donor? I'm sure they both exist...
QUOTE (timezoner @ Apr 14 2008, 2:29 pm)
Germany football team problem sort of backdoor infiltration
Often when I've seen those tossers I've suspected there's a bit of back door infiltration sperm donor action going on...
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 2:10 pm)
One thing no one has mentioned is I think that many Germans are just jealous of US citizens...
Now, really, Marsha. That's just silly. I have yet to meet such a German. George Bush, university tuition, illegal prostitution, crap social welfare system, poor gun control... no, you're right. Those things are awesome.
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 2:10 pm)
...This country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
What the hell are you doing with all your money? It's not Germany's fault you can't budget.
The real question is: Why would anybody want to keep her here?
Beats me.
QUOTE (Fribble @ Apr 14 2008, 2:56 pm)
Now, really, Marsha. That's just silly. I have yet to meet such a German. George Bush, university tuition, illegal prostitution, crap social welfare system, poor gun control... no, you're right. Those things are awesome.
Surely you could find at least a few positive things, Fribble. I know more than a couple of Germans living in the US who would never come back to the Vaterland.
QUOTE (Fribble @ Apr 14 2008, 2:56 pm)
What the hell are you doing with all your money? It's not Germany's fault you can't budget
Not that I agree with anything the OP posted, but, in all fairness, why assume she and her husband ever had a bunch of money?
QUOTE (LittleSprite @ Apr 14 2008, 3:12 pm)
The real question is: Why would anybody want to keep her here?
perhaps she has a special talent
Then why the financial difficulties?
Something's not quite adding up here...
Something's not quite adding up here...
Perhaps a quote from Blackadder fits the bill.
"Something smells fishy and i'm not talking about the contents of Baldrics apple crumble"
...
"Something smells fishy and i'm not talking about the contents of Baldrics apple crumble"
...
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Apr 14 2008, 3:39 pm)
Not that I agree with anything the OP posted, but, in all fairness, why assume she and her husband ever had a bunch of money?
Why assume she doesn't?
The story she'd have us believe is just not very plausible, and something's not adding up: First she talks her very reluctant German husband into moving back. They pick up house and move overseas. Within a few short months, she has ostensibly given all their savings to the German government, preventing all possibility of a return home. To add insult to injury, they are trying to mind control her and beat down her soul with their collective misery and jealous ill-adaptation of American ways.
??
She probably blew all her cash on something and now can't get it back, so they decided to mooch off his parents and she hates it. Or she's hiding from the US law. Or she's crazy.
first law of being female: blame somebody else
So what? That's not our fault...it's those hormones!
QUOTE (Fribble @ Apr 14 2008, 4:45 pm)
The story she'd have us believe is just not very plausible, and something's not adding up: First she talks her very reluctant German husband into moving back. They pick up house and move overseas. Within a few short months, she has ostensibly given all their savings to the German government, preventing all possibility of a return home. To add insult to injury, they are trying to mind control her and beat down her soul with their collective misery and jealous ill-adaptation of American ways.
She probably blew all her cash on something and now can't get it back, so they decided to mooch off his parents and she hates it. Or she's hiding from the US law. Or she's crazy.
She probably blew all her cash on something and now can't get it back, so they decided to mooch off his parents and she hates it. Or she's hiding from the US law. Or she's crazy.
Who knows really? We do occasionally get threads opened by some clueless person thinking they'll move here despite marginal or no qualifications, few savings, and little to no command of German yet hope or think they'll be able to have a middle class life here. My guess is that the OP fits that bill.
QUOTE (Fribble @ Apr 14 2008, 4:45 pm)
Within a few short months, she has ostensibly given all their savings to the German government,
No, she spent it all on rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide, see this quote from an older post:
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Then you have the prices here in Germany. Shockingly expensive...for shitty little items like rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide!! Hell, I can get those TWO items for under a dollar in the US!! F*ck!!! They cost 10 euros here!!! WTF??!!!
Oh, and here's another revelation from her very first post:
Never been there, huh? Another culture shock coming up, in that case...
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my husband and I made the decision to move back to the USA. HE has never been to the USA.
Never been there, huh? Another culture shock coming up, in that case...
Bleached, buffed and bothered in the BRD, read our exclusive report on one woman's prussian purgatory.
Oooh, how exciting!
I hope he hates it!!
I hope he hates it!!
After reading all this I am glad I don't live in germany..
Hang on, there cannot be that much difference between 2 hours by train and plane?
Can there???
A man was sitting on a bench outside his village, a car pulls up. The window winds down and a voice says, we are just moving here, what are the poeple like?
The man replies.. What were the people in your last village like?
Assholes, the lot of them..
The man says ... Its much the same here.
10 mins later, same thinig happens only the car driver says 'they were all realy nice poeple'..
The man replies 'Much the same here realy'..
Some people will have trouble no matter where they settle.
Hang on, there cannot be that much difference between 2 hours by train and plane?
Can there???
A man was sitting on a bench outside his village, a car pulls up. The window winds down and a voice says, we are just moving here, what are the poeple like?
The man replies.. What were the people in your last village like?
Assholes, the lot of them..
The man says ... Its much the same here.
10 mins later, same thinig happens only the car driver says 'they were all realy nice poeple'..
The man replies 'Much the same here realy'..
Some people will have trouble no matter where they settle.
QUOTE (cb6dba @ Apr 14 2008, 5:11 pm)
After reading all this I am glad I don't live in germany..
So Dresden is located in which country...?
The land of read the next two lines
QUOTE (stanford @ Apr 13 2008, 10:04 am)
Point of Order
If someone is allowed to say they I "Love" Germany without every one getting uppity...then it is equally valid to be able to say I "hate" Germany...
If someone is allowed to say they I "Love" Germany without every one getting uppity...then it is equally valid to be able to say I "hate" Germany...
With 100% you on that, stanford, but all that wittering about the "Third Reich" suggests that the dear lady of the original post probably isnt the brightest bulb in the candelabra and provides a clue as to why shes having a miserable time.
There are people who can be happy anywhere and people who arent happy anywhere. Such is life.
andy M
QUOTE (worm @ Apr 14 2008, 3:56 pm)
perhaps she has a special talent
[X] send pics
andy M
True, true you do not have to register in the US. There is no need to the "social assistance" you will get is far below anything in Germany. A friend who works at the unemployment office in Wisconsin (one of the "welfare states in the US) filled me in -- you recieve a meager allowance for a maximum of 6m if you qualify. Once that runs out, you and your family are SOL and with no health insurance to boot! Have fun going back to the US!
QUOTE (RealityDriven @ Apr 14 2008, 1:10 pm)
One thing no one has mentioned is I think that many Germans are just jealous of US citizens...there's so much infiltration of US style everything here (that it even makes me sick!) but they just can't get it right...besides having such a government that oppresses its' citizens...I'd be miserable too I suppose... For those of you who talk of people just leaving the country if they don't like it...this country sucks up so much of one's money, that it becomes impossible to "just leave." I think that is by design...
Oh hello who has the "patriot act"? and the department of homeland security? and racial profiling when you enter the country... the good ole USof A
As for making it impossible to leave... you don"t have good credit me thinks...cause in your advanced economy everything can be bought with "good credit"... no money down... you know... you can even finance your ticket out of here... but you got probably denied social welfare and that is the only reason why you came to germany, thinking you can milk the system
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Apr 14 2008, 6:03 am)
While there have been a number of ignorant comments on this thread and others with regards to Germany, perhaps you should recall your own litany of complaints about the US within the context of your putative marriage to an American and possession of a US green card.
Nice to see you, again ... NOT . Did you crawle back out from under your rock where you store other peoples posts
QUOTE (Shippym @ Apr 14 2008, 6:38 pm)
True, true you do not have to register in the US. There is no need to the "social assistance" you will get is far below anything in Germany. A friend who works at the unemployment office in Wisconsin (one of the "welfare states in the US) filled me in -- you recieve a meager allowance for a maximum of 6m if you qualify. Once that runs out, you and your family are SOL and with no health insurance to boot! Have fun going back to the US!
Oh my gosh! How will anyone survive without massive European-style welfare benefits paid for by others?
BTW, people usually aren't unemployed in the US for more than six months unless they want to be or aren't willing to relocate.
taxidriver, do you actually have anything to add to this thread?
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Apr 14 2008, 7:20 pm)
BTW, people usually aren't unemployed in the US for more than six months unless they want to be or aren't willing to relocate.
Is that really true?
Not doubting you but i've never been told that before.
QUOTE (MrNosey @ Apr 13 2008, 9:57 am)
I seem to be in the minority in thinking that Germans are friendly. They don't really show it in that false way that is stereotypically American but our experiences are positive.
Because being obnoxious is genuine and honest, however kindness and a positive attitude are hypocritical? Some people have been living in Northern Europe too long...
Educated, experienced, and out of work
Long-term joblessness continues to plague the unemployed
Long-term joblessness continues to plague the unemployed
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Long-term unemployment—when unemployed workers have been seeking work for six months or more—is the most severe form of joblessness. The consequences of extended periods of joblessness are significant: the long-term unemployed often face financial, personal, and health care hardships as well as the loss of their unemployment insurance benefits. An analysis of long-term unemployment from 2000 to 2003 (a period spanning the recession that occurred between March and November 2001) shows that the number of people without work for six months or more has risen at the extraordinarily high rate of 198.2% over this period.1 Job seekers with college degrees and those age 45 and older have had an especially difficult time finding work, with long-term unemployment for those groups rising by 299.4% and 217.6%, respectively ...
What is the unemployment rate in the US? Do you actually want to compare labor market flexibility in Germany and the latter?
How can you come up with stuff like this when you know perfectly well that if the categories referred to in the article are having more problems than before in the US, that it must be ten times worse for the same types of people in Europe. Once again this shows how intellectually dishonest and ideologically motivated your postings are.
How can you come up with stuff like this when you know perfectly well that if the categories referred to in the article are having more problems than before in the US, that it must be ten times worse for the same types of people in Europe. Once again this shows how intellectually dishonest and ideologically motivated your postings are.
QUOTE (Jules Winnfield @ Apr 14 2008, 8:42 pm)
What is the unemployment rate in the US?
I believe it's around 4.8% at the moment, but it's deceptive since many people work two or three jobs.
Economy is definitely in trouble at the moment.
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