I hate Germany too

C-C-T-V ?

Why don"t you fuck off and leave this fucking place... fucking bitch

The "fucking bitch" has to fucking stay here because this fucking country fucking needs fucking people like her to pay fucking shitloads of fucking tax to support the fucking ridiculously inefficient fucking germany economy and fucking support all the fucking lazy fucking Germans sitting on their fucking arses licking up fucking massive socialist benefits you fucking cock.
Fucking.

i dont think they are rude.
I was surprised at how slow costumer service can be in Cafes, and once called a waitress after getting impacient waiting. She told me to wait in a rude fashion, but when she finally served me she was quite nice. So I guess its only their way. They dont like to be pushed

Rude is a subjective word. I've sat in countless meeting with Gerrys and Americans, and very often, the Germans came across as extremely rude. Trying to be rude? Hell no quite the opposite, but certainly perceived that way nonetheless.

you can fuck off to little english cunt if you guys hate it so much, why are you here? Don't tell me it is for the money or the benefits... after everything is so horrible over here

Gotta love Toytown!

While there have been a number of ignorant comments on this thread and others with regards to Germany, perhaps you should recall your own litany of complaints about the US within the context of your putative marriage to an American and possession of a US green card.

I can totally relate to the OP. Even after nearly 20 years, this place can sure be a real pain in the ass on a daily basis. Yes, the Germans ARE rude and inconsiderate. Yes, service over here DOES suck. And knowing that I'm leaving just makes me see more of the things that drive me nuts. I'm very much looking forward to May 22nd. Theoretically, since my truck and household items will all be gone as of the 28th of April, I could have gotten out of here sooner.

Take a deep breath, OP. It will either get better for you or you will have to make sacrifices to leave and never look back. Don't let ignorant twats like Taxidriver fool you. He's an "internet tough guy". He'd never dare utter such words in real life.

I would not really class the German people as rude but more stand offish.I get along with most German people but then i have made the effort to integrate.I learnt their language well.I respect their culture.OK service does suck over here, but you cannot expect to move to another country and expect it to be like countries and places you have lived in.
If you were living in your homeland now and a German started blasting in to your culture and way of life then how would you react?

I think I'll let you have the last word on that - don't want to bother you with German rudeness:

Don't recall seeing signs at the border saying You are now entering Germany, a country you have no right to leave should you decide you don't like it.

Whatever happened to free will?

Well you got to admit that "opression is rampant" around here!

I feel sorry for you dumb ass americans who come on here slagging off the country where you live...learn the language pea brain and thank your god that you are not living somewhere where death and destuction is part of everyday life.People in Africa struggle with life while your government sucks them dry.

The OP sounds more like a flounce than a rant!

I don't stay here to support the german tax system, I work and get paid and as part of that, I pay tax. That would happen in most places.

As was said in the previous thread before it was closed. Everyone has the right to bitch abut the place, we all, have done and will continue to do.

However if you are realy unhappy, go home. I don't mean that in a negative way but for your own peace of mind, go home (regardless of where home is).

How much is a ticket back home? Or are you thinking of transporting the entire home contents you have here as well? If you feel that bad sell everything and use the cash to pay for the flight and start again back home.

You may have to start over with very little but you will be much happier and willing to get your new life (or old life) started.

The difference between a winge and someone making life hard for themselves is when its not just a winge but a deep routed dislike for the place/a burning need to get out.

We all winge, germans this, germans that...etc, however when you get to the point where staying here makes you very unhappy then you are just being dumb by staying.

Sell up, use the cash for the ticket go to where you are happier. As I said, sure you won't have much when you get there but its either that or suck it up and deal with it.

I saw a show on TV about racism in Germany and attack on foreigners becoming more common. So now by your logic I guess I should assume all of you are racists.


I feel sorry for you dumb ass europeans.

And No, we don't have to register when we move. You Don't HAVE to file a change of address card. AND, if I have an apartment in another city from my house, I don't have to register it as a 2nd residency. Control!

I also don't have to pay to go to the park and play tennis, or to play soccer on a GRASS field, and I definitely don't have to pay a per minute charge when I call my internet provider to tell them the service I'm already paying for isn't working. The same internet service that took 6 weeks to setup! When I moved to my new house in America I had the internet working within 1 hour of opening the front door for the first time. Yes thats right, I called on my cell phone, gave them my information and bam.. the line was turned on. Germany has the most inefficient system of government I have ever seen and customer service is so below any reasonable standard its laughable. And that for the unbelievably high tax? Where the hell is the money going (see inefficient government)?

No, there are good things; Unbelievably clean lakes and rivers, 6 weeks vacation a year, great beer, great skiing, some wonderful scenery, etc.

No driving license then sanwald?

Do you pay to play soccer on a grass field and pay to go to a park?...well now whose the dumbo...hello my friend..get real they are for free.Racism take real careful look at the good ol USA for racism.
Don`t forget i been to Kentucky...hay hauling bean eating sheep scuttling freaks

I really don’t understand why people like l8knight live here (shakes head) I expect the answer will be they had to or had no other choice. Wrong the only thing you have to do in this life is pay taxes and kick the bucket

It's nice to see someone so convinced their own government gets it right. Generally we Europeans are a bit more sceptical. As an American you have the right to pay taxes to the US for every year of your life, regardless where you work or live or how much your income was taxed before you got your hands on it. It's your priviledge for being an American. We can all see now how good the debt fuelled US economic system was in fact, and as for comparing freedoms, well, we've got other TT threads on that.

Yawn. The inevitable descent into the abyss of Ami-bashing.

Ami-bashing is fun. It gives purpose to my day. Especially when so many Americans live in houses made entirely of (rose coloured) glass.

Empathy. Gotta love it.

So can we all just observe a minute of silence feeling sorry for each other - and move on?

No I am not blind to whats wrong in the US, I responded to direct comments and didn't feel a need to write a book. Yes, our government has gone out of control too, creating laws to control almost every aspect of our lives. The political correctness to the point that people are afraid to say Merry Christmas is a joke as well. Bush is an idiot and should be charged for war crimes. Does all that make my comments about Germany any less true? Is the topic here about America anyways? (No, but as all threads on TT it becomes this).

gentle jim Bright one you are. Yes, if you want to play on a grass field in Germany, not a park like English Garden but a normal, striped with goals field...you have to join the SV and even then you may only play on some gravel/dirt field (yes, I joined one and thats where we played). Back home I pay taxes and I can go to a nice big park that has 15, yes 15 striped fields with goals to play on. They also have 8 tennis courts that I don't have to join a tennis club to play on. Volley ball courts, basketball courts, football fields, baseball fields and children's playgrounds... ALL FOR FREE! Well, paid for with tax dollars of course. Sorry that I don't find things like this as common or readily available in Germany... guess I just haven't integrated enough.

You don't know me, you don't know why I am here... does it matter? Lets say I am here because I did what was best for my family as any father should do. You don't need to know more than that. Does it mean that I should accept all things I don't like here? Does it mean I am not allowed to voice them?

God forbid if someone speak out against Germany and what things appear to some of us as being unacceptable. And because I name a few things you think I walk around here as a German hater, bla bla bla. And yes, I do speak the language.

Burn the witch
Burn to ash & bone.

In my village there is a football field, a basket ball area(outdoor) and a skateboarder place. There is a free childrens playground in my street and many more throughout the village. Just round the corner from where I work in Munich is a a basketball court, a football field and an area with exercise machines. None of these vacilities have to be paid for to use them.

Let me quote myself, maybe people are missing what I wrote:


I didn't say they DON'T exist... I said it is not common, and it isn't.

There are some of these down by the Isar between the Candidplatz bridge and the railway bridge. Ok, it's not as luxury as the site you describe but maybe there are others too. Generally access to sport and recreational activities in Germany is excellent compared to the UK, and we can debate the benefits this gives to German society.

Wow 15 striped fields with GOALS...thats something else...makes me wish I was an american.You missing the point...and looks like yourè missing home.For all our sakes knight rider and for your own green land where the sun always shines on the asshole of the poor,best go home then buddy.

and this is the case in every single US town, city and village is it? Not in my experience, which has mainly been the east coast I grant you. But I rather doubt it is common in every municipality in the USA.

There are places in Germany and the UK where there are football pitches and tennis courts where you can play for free too (my home town of North Berwick being one of them) but likewise, it isn't everywhere.

Well ... it is actually:

"This place is oppressive, REpressive, non yielding, and it sucks completely. I cannot WAIT to get back to the good "ol" USA. YES!"

Could you please highlight the section from this link Electoral commission that states registration is compulsory, I cannot seem to find it!!

L8knight,

That's par for the course here. They love to bash you if you are an American. On another thread I made a post and people came on, clicked on my profile, and started attacking me for being an American although my post had nothing to do with America. When I defended myself from an obnoxious post by 'shottie' by calling him a 'dick head' (which he is) my post was promptly deleted by the Brit moderators but 'shottie' was allowed to continue to post his vile with impunity. It's the Brits forum. So I guess we have to get used to it.

" Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! ", eh?

Trust me, the Brits, myself included, get moderated all the time, as does Schotte.

I for one am very happy that there appears to be a lack of free football pitches in germany. Hopefully this means that fewer germans will become good at taking penalties

Good beer, good wine and friendly people, have no reason to dislike Germany, except when dealing with any amt offices LOL
My advise is, be nice to people, and they will be nice to you

Point 2.2. on this page says

@flannery, no you don't - You could open your own forum and miss out on all the fun

What I found interesting as the mention of the third reich in the OP. A regeime built on the hatred of various groups and the belief that they were and did things better than anyone else.

This is a post stating hatred for germany and the germans and inferring that things were done better 'back home'...

The abundance of playing fields in the states doesn’t seem to have helped the US footy team

TRJ did you read the title of the page you provided a link to!! Here it is "Report and recommendations" Now perhaps you could find something that states it is required by Law to register!

Probably because L8knight means girls rugby when he refers to football.

I'd say it's a damn good thing that proper football isn't the major sport in the US or we'd be hating them for dominating that too...

proper football i like that

Because soccer wasn't as popular in America as it has become today, and is now the fastest growing sport in America. It was always a popular sport for WOMEN as I was growing up and I believe the US Women's team is doing just fine.

**The abundance of playing fields in the states doesn’t seem to have helped the US footy team**
The US sucks at soccer because they have 3 other sports that sift off the best athletic talent, ie, Football, baseball, and basketball. If you can't make these teams then you go to the soccer team.

I think it's time to get out the measuring tape and find out whose is bigger...

points 2.1 -2.4 of the link I posted describe the situation as it is at the moment. Enter "annual canvass" in google and you will find links to every council-site in the UK with details of how registration is compulsory and failure to register can lead to a fine.

pointless exercise we all know every thing in the states is bigger

Does that include the disappointment as well

Now that doesn't necessarily make it a pointless exercise...