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How to get paid if you don't have a work permit

Collecting payment when working illegally

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Prizm
Hi All !

I have a company that really needs my skills for a 3 month contract but we can't get a work permit quick enough.

I'm looking for some 'borderline' suggestions how can we get around this in the in-term.

I'm non-eu with a residence permit.

If i have a New Zealand freelance set-up.. could he just out-source to that company and wire the money there? anyone know how complicated this is for my employer?

Any other ideas?

(I'm aware this probably isn't all that legal, for all you citizen police)
cyn
get a bank account here then they can wire it there, or they might pay you cash. as long as they dont write it in their books no one knows... erm... in theory wink.gif
Prizm
German Bank account: Check!

But it needs to go through their books somehow, as their sorta a daughter company for some larger outfit that keeps an eye on them.
Darkknight
Under the table, CASH!!!

If you do anything with a bank, there will be a paper (Digital) trail for anybody to follow.
bluedave
Get them to pay me instead and i'll give it to you.

Less a little DAT ( Dave Added Tax ) of course. smile.gif
YorkshireLad6
Invoicing from your New Zealand company/entity is the way to go, but it's risky as you have residency here. Don't entertain or even suggest "under the table deals" - depending on the business they are in your client is unlikely to have any off-the-books cash lying around in any case. Do you plan to formalise your self-employment position here? If you do then you could write your own invoices in anticipation of later authorisation. Do you have a tax number (Steuernummer)? - maybe from previous employment? this will be a requirement to write an invoice, or your client cannot, officially pay you in the first place.
The final option is to find someone who can write invoices to launder the money for you. They write the invoice, and pay you a proportion, the rest being Dave-Added-Tax or equivalent. Might work if they are based offshore, but damned risky for both of you, and especially you if you plan staying here long term.
Tax avoidance in Germany is considered more heinous that kiddy-fiddling. A friend of mine had an unexpected early morning visit from the tax inspectors who took him immediately to jail without asking questions on suspicion of shelving €2million in VAT off-shore. Not even the British Consul was allowed to visit him. Four weeks later he was released on bail. 8 months later he was actually prosecuted for alleged fiddling of (only) €2000 in VAT which he admitted, and given litigation based on ignorance of completing the tax returns was let off with a caution. The guy lost 4 weeks of his life in isolation in a German jail without so much as an apology. The judge at his "trial" even apologised for the actions of the taxmen in misunderstanding the circumstances...
raspberry.80
What happens if I am working for a company where I have to pay taxes at the end of the year as I receive a full paycheck into my account. My company is based in London, so I receive payments from there. Will the taxmen be able to trace my income though my bank account? I am not registered here yet. About to get married and then register. Can I avoid paying taxes on the months I have not been registered as a resident? Although I prefer to do everything right and pay all the taxes at the end of the year. But I am affraid it may ad up to a big chunk that I won't be able to save.

Thank you.
kengsslee
What I have learnt from some "people" is to write the cheque to another person's name.
OF COURSE! CHOOSE WISELY. Look for someone who is allowed to work and ask for the help.
Preferbly, someone who is a student but not on the BAFOG...
kitkat64
I started working before I had the official work permit too. The company gave me a check for 2000€ to 'take care of things' until I could work, while I worked for a month before the official work permit was effective. Then, they reduced the next 2 month's pay (each month by 1000€) - in these months I was an official employee. But, it is a small company so it may have been easier.
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