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Is it OK to joke about religion?

Or should some subjects be off limits?

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Mariposa
Haha, I don't know if that'll work, I couldn't find a bigger version on their website (Kukuxumusu). I just bought that postcard the other day along with some others at the store here. smile.gif (You could get a t-shirt of it.)
Bell the cat
QUOTE (gemini @ Apr 7 2008, 5:51 pm) *
back to the topic, thank you BtC for posting the follow ups to the British cases.

my pleasure

actually, there was considerable criticism of the Met police at the time that they did not arrest people on the spot at the demo and instead waited until 6 days later when there was only enough evidence for a very small number of prosecutions. The reasons they gave for that is that there were severe public order considerations if they had waded in and started arresting people there and then. I guess the Met were also fairly spooked by the case of Jean Charles de Menezes at the time.
Timmeh
Remember the fuckin naughty word counter on TT? That was cuntingly awesome, but it ended up turning TT into a fucking swearing competition and fucking got removed, Somewhat of a sad day that.
FirstCitizen
Fucking brilliant idea!
Jade2
Jeff Dunham
Pas
This one had me choking on my lunch.

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US televangelist Pat Robertson has branded the Pope a dangerous liberal and challenged him to prove his Christian credentials in a televised Jew-hating contest. usw.

Daily Mash Article
Jonathen
We attend the Brasilianisch Evangelische Gemeinde in Pasing, they have english services as well. About a month ago we had a visiting speaker from Berlin who claimed to heal in the name of the Lord. He claimed to have healed AIDS and a deaf man here in Munich. I don’t know whether such things really happen but do believe that our Lord Jesus Christ healed as the bible says.

A week later our own minister made reference to the guest speakers sermon and called attention to the fact that we have about ten deaf members of our congregation that were there the day the guest speaker was. He said, “maybe he only heals one deaf person at a time� or something like that (it was in German). Apparently some Christians think it’s ok to joke because everyone laughed.

Even Jesus had a sense of humor. He called two of his disciples who happened to be brothers and have terrible tempers, “sons of thunder�. Maybe that was as funny as they got in ancient times. And I figure that god has a sense of humor, if you ever watch some of the crazy things monkey do, it looks that way.

I don't mind joking about Religion. I guess God does if he ever takes a look at some of the hats the Pope wears biggrin.gif

Here's the website http://www.cbg-online.de/html/index.php
SquirrelKate
I think I upset a customer at work today. The woman infronts shopping came to 6,66 and I said "ooh, Teufels Fruhstuck" to which she laughed. The woman behind was not very happy!
trickydick
it is ok to joke about muslims

BadBob
I never joke about religion...except to expose the theological ineptitude of certain Quaker homosexuals.
Bell the cat
and in so doing demonstrate your own inability to understand either philosphy or theology. Stick to guns matey and leave the brainy stuff to the rest of us.
BadBob
You have no position on anything Bell, it's all relative to you. What a joke.
don_riina
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He claimed to have healed AIDS and a deaf man here in Munich. I don’t know whether such things really happen but do believe that our Lord Jesus Christ healed as the bible says.

Madness. Sorry, but that is the case. No biblebloke heals AIDS. What did he do, put a snake on him or something? C'mon.

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I figure that god has a sense of humor, if you ever watch some of the crazy things monkey do, it looks that way.

Also rubbish. Monkeys are only funny when humans intervene and give them cigars to smoke, miniature bicycles to ride about on ,and cooky little hats and waistcoats to wear.
BadBob
dolfan
Classy BB, you are amusingly racist.
BadBob
The NObama's are a lot more racist than anybody I know. Just look at the videos from their Pastor.
FirstCitizen
With people like you around, they have good reason to be.
dolfan
QUOTE (BadBob @ Jul 15 2008, 8:01 pm) *
The NObama's are a lot more racist than anybody I know.

yaawwwwnnnnn, please explain.
Bell the cat
go on Badbob, why don't you tell us the extent of your education. You have demonstrated that you can cut and paste, and spell and repeatedly troll threads but you palpably don't have the faculties to grasp the basics of philosophy, theology or politics. Did you go to a special school or something?
Crawlie
Yet he always manages to engage so many of you in these discussions... Interesting
FirstCitizen
Mmm, i'm really interested to hear the views of an uneducated racist spoonfed expound his 'theories'
FirstCitizen
QUOTE (Crawlie @ Jul 15 2008, 8:15 pm) *
Yet he always manages to engage so many of you in these discussions... Interesting

What's interesting about it? He's a Troll, people rise to it, there's nothing deeper to it.
Alarum
Back to the topic, in my opinion either everything is ok to make fun of or nothing is
ian
People usually dont want to take the p*iss out of people in unfortunate situations that are beyond their control. Like handicapped people etc. Although the man falling over on a bannana skin! That gets me every time! I must be sadistic.
Anyway, self inflicted things like religeon are probably ok. Except for kids of religeous types who have been brainwashed.
BadBob
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 15 2008, 8:11 pm) *
go on Badbob, why don't you tell us the extent of your education. You have demonstrated that you can cut and paste, and spell and repeatedly troll threads but you palpably don't have the faculties to grasp the basics of philosophy, theology or politics. Did you go to a special school or something?

What do you care what the extent of my education is? The only thing that should matter to you, is that I point out repeatedly the logical fallacy of your arguments...to the point that you are reduced to mere speechlessness. If you can't reply...then maybe you should rethink your position. But no, you are too proud to do that. We are all well aware of your homosexual agenda. In addition, you don't even know what faculties are. I am irrefutable in theology. That is not bragging, that is a fact. When it comes to philosophy, I am familiar with it, but focus on theology, because it exceeds philosophy. Politics? Hey, talk to me about politics when you get your shit together. Special school? Yeah, you could say that.
Bell the cat
why don't you tell everyone your 'theories' about Plato's Symposium then BB. TBH I was almost taking you seriously until you posted what has to be one of the most laughably ignorant responses I have ever seen on TT.
lilplatinum
And yet you keep letting yourself be trolled...
BadBob
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 15 2008, 8:43 pm) *
why don't you tell everyone your 'theories' about Plato's Symposium then BB. TBH I was almost taking you seriously until you posted what has to be one of the most laughably ignorant responses I have ever seen on TT.

Bell, this post is for you. Have you never heard of a "Platonic Relationship?" It has nothing to do with homosexuality as you contend. Once again, you are reduced to silence! It is you who don't understand philosophy. Now think that over, before you make a bigger ass out of yourself.
Bipa
@BB
eh?!

Meanwhile, I used to love having drinks with my Catholic Parish Priest. (he was also a distant uncle) He'd tell the funniest jokes, and always with some religious connotation. He used to say that if we can't laugh at ourselves at least once a day, then we're doing something wrong. He never put anyone or any religion down, just had fun with the topic in general. Lots of puns and word-play along with Priest and Nun jokes.

I'm reminded of the time the Bishop was looking around, searching for his cap. We all searched, but couldn't find any hats or caps laying around. Turns out he meant his mitre! laugh.gif

(It was found safe and sound in its velvet lined box behind the bar where the waitress had placed it for safe-keeping)
BadBob
Like I said...nothing but silence from Bell now. Thank God.
Crawlie
QUOTE (FirstCitizen @ Jul 15 2008, 6:16 pm) *
What's interesting about it? He's a Troll, people rise to it, there's nothing deeper to it.

So, who are the idiots around here? Those who Troll or those who know they are being trolled but still get sucked in, annoyed and try to argue with the troll?
Sin
Religion is a joke. So, what's the problem with a little mirth?
liutaia
If you take religion off the table for joking about, you also have to take politics and sex off... and then what would be left to joke about??
Bipa
BadBob? ph34r.gif
mlovett
Do Germans make jokes? LOL

What I've learned, as a Californian married to a Hamburgian... just DON'T MAKE JOKES ABOUT EITHER WORLD WAR! biggrin.gif
long-haul
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Do Germans make jokes? LOL

Dont make jokes abt wurst, pommes, beer and the fact that Germany has not won a major football tounament in a loooong time. Apart from that, everythings fine. wink.gif
FirstCitizen
QUOTE (mlovett @ Jul 16 2008, 12:47 pm) *
Do Germans make jokes?

They do, but only if they're 'clever', take a look at German tv and you'll be hard pressed to find anything except cerebral political satire. The rest is fucking programs about zoos, or earnest dramas about teenagers running away from home and other 'pressing' social issues. God I miss British TV, the best comedy, the best documentaries, the best news, compared to any other network in any other european country. There is a lot of shite as well, but really no other country has such inventive creative television as the U.K.
Having said that, I would still rather live in Germany. wink.gif
Bell the cat
QUOTE (BadBob @ Jul 15 2008, 7:49 pm) *
Bell, this post is for you. Have you never heard of a "Platonic Relationship?" It has nothing to do with homosexuality as you contend.

The term "Platonic Relationship" is a distortion of the ideal Platonic love - which is assentially a heightenened erotic but non-sexual relationship - described in the Symposium. It is quite explicitly homosexual in the terms Plato used to describe it.

QUOTE (BadBob @ Jul 15 2008, 7:49 pm) *
Once again, you are reduced to silence! It is you who don't understand philosophy. Now think that over, before you make a bigger ass out of yourself.

You know my first degree from a leading UK university was partly in Philsophy. What qualifications do you have to describe me as having no understanding of it?
FirstCitizen
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 16 2008, 2:22 pm) *
You know my first degree from a leading UK university was partly in Philsophy. What qualifications do you have to describe me as having no understanding of it?

@BtC: The guys just a fuckwad, why are you even bothering to try and be reasonable with him? I hate to say it, but you're being trolled good an proper.
RMA
Got to agree with FirstCitizen, there!
Bell the cat
you could be right I suppose
Jeckel
in my little bit of stupidness in doing the stand up infront of mostly English speaking German people, I like to talk about stuff that people really don't expect. Apart from masturbation, vibrators & lesbian taxi drivers, religion is also fair game I reckon. I'm Catholic, I take the piss out of dodgy priests & other religions, Budda, Allah or whatever.

In the meantime, what about the "religion" taking the piss out of religion, - Welcome to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster The answer can be found there. or in the hate mail
BadBob
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Jul 16 2008, 2:22 pm) *
You know my first degree from a leading UK university was partly in Philsophy. What qualifications do you have to describe me as having no understanding of it?

Uh...I can actually read.

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In the Laws, Plato applies the idea of a fixed, natural law to sex, and takes a much harsher line than he does in the Symposium or the Phraedrus. In Book One he writes about how opposite-sex sex acts cause pleasure by nature, while same-sex sexuality is “unnatural� (636c). In Book Eight, the Athenian speaker considers how to have legislation banning homosexual acts, masturbation, and illegitimate procreative sex widely accepted. He then states that this law is according to nature (838-839d). Probably the best way of understanding Plato's discussion here is in the context of his overall concerns with the appetitive part of the soul and how best to control it. Plato clearly sees same-sex passions as especially strong, and hence particularly problematic, although in the Symposium that erotic attraction could be the catalyst for a life of philosophy, rather than base sensuality (Cf. Dover, 1989, 153-170; Nussbaum, 1999, esp. chapter 12). - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

It is queer that you continue to cite Plato, although he is clearly "anti-gay." In any event, you fail to agree with Plato that homosexuality is "unnatural;" you're certainly for gay marriage, while Plato is for "legislation banning homosexual acts;" Plato, like Aristotle, believes in the soul - you do not and have claimed it is a "metaphysical extravagance." So I wonder why you insist on mischaracterizing Plato to support your homosexual agenda, but in practice contra Plato, you have not used your orientation as a "catalyst for a life of philosophy, rather than base sensuality?"

Your Philosophy minor - so much ado about nothing. tongue.gif My correct understanding of philosophy is made self-evident by your repeated documented misunderstandings of the subject in this and other threads - Hence, my qualifications are also self-evidently superior and I need not provide further proof.

Can you hear the silence, Bell?
garibaldi
QUOTE (Jeckel @ Jul 16 2008, 2:42 pm) *
The answer can be found there. or in the hate mail

...and in the hate mail above.
Why does Christian belief make people like BB so very unhappy?
Kommentarlos
Same goes for those proponents of the 'Church of Swinging'. Miserable unfulfilled bunch the lot of them.
Hutcho
QUOTE (BadBob @ Jul 16 2008, 3:37 pm) *
Your Philosophy minor - so much ado about nothing.

That perfectly describes Theology, which is what you claim to be an expert in. The study of fairy tales and innuendo at best.
BadBob
I think your philosophy could best be described as, Nihilism, Hutcho. That is what actually makes people like you and garibaldi so unhappy, although garibaldi likes to think of himself as a "The Rantapine."
Hutcho
I am not at all unhappy, and Nihilism doesn't describe me at all. I am not pessimistic and I have loyalty to many things, just not invisible sky gods that almost certainly do no exist. Likewise, I have plenty of purpose but again, not to an invisible sky god.
BadBob
"almost certainly"???
robinson100
I think if you can joke about sex, you can joke about religion!

....just wondering though, if any of you have tried using the good old English expression "is the Pope catholic?" in German????? - I use it occasionally, with mixed levels of understanding!
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