I just wanted opinions on this because I find this phrase highly irritating. Is this a monumental cock-up or just marketing trying to be overly clever ? Is this a classic example of non-native English speaker arrogantly thinking they know better than native speakers?
Lastly, can someone tell me what the phrase means? 'Nothing is impossible' ?
I am not a linguist, but I'd be interested in the professional views of those that are.
Schotte
Apr 1 2008, 1:15 pm
I think its a great slogan. Pretty inspirational and captures the spirt of the Olympics - higher, faster, longer or whatever it is exactly.
What does it mean??? Surely that you can achieve anything if you work for it etc etc...on the big stage when world and olympic records can be broken?
Katrina
Apr 1 2008, 1:18 pm
It's an old slogan that adidas have been using
since 2004, not something new.
QUOTE
For Erich Stamminger, member of the Executive Board of adidas-Salomon AG responsible for Global Marketing and President of adidas America, "Impossible is nothing" captures in one short phrase the essence of adidas as a brand and the attitude that is known and shared by all athletes around the world, "Impossible is nothing" is the concept behind our brand positioning "forever sport" that clearly and emotionally communicates our passion for sport." He added, "As an athlete you always strive to go further, break new ground, surpass your limits. So do we as a brand, to achieve our mission to be the leading sports brand in the world."
As for native English speakers who have worked for the company, no comment.
DanHessen
Apr 1 2008, 1:21 pm
I, for one, don't get it. OK, I understand "Nothing is impossible", but "Impossible is nothing" theoretically has a different meaning. Why should "The impossible" be considered "nothing". It seems to imply that doing the seemingly impossible is easy or commonplace.
Either ADS are idiots or I need better drugs.
Ruthie
Apr 1 2008, 1:28 pm
I also find the slogan highly irritating and nonsensical. Not clever, but confusing.
is this a case of 'emperor's new clothes' syndrome, surely the phrase is non-sensical ?
well I feel a bit better that I am not alone on this!
Jeeves
Apr 1 2008, 2:25 pm
QUOTE (DanHessen @ Apr 1 2008, 2:21 pm)

Why should "The impossible" be considered "nothing". It seems to imply that doing the seemingly impossible is easy or commonplace.
That, if anything, is what it means to me. Which I suspect is not what the marketing department concerned had in mind.
Wasn't it about that time that Toyota came up with "Nichts ist unmöglich"?
maybe the 'idea' behind it is when you wear addidas sportswear the things that were once impossible becomes easy. Most ads and slogans are dumb, but if you pay enough attention to them that you know addidas has such and such a slogan the marketing was obviously successful.
"Impossible" means to me that it cannot be done. "Nothing" means to me either empty (null) or unsuccessful - no result, no fulfillment. So the slogan seems to say don't even bother to try doing the impossible, since you'll end up with nothing to show for it.
Jules Winnfield
Apr 1 2008, 2:55 pm
Could this not be vaguely influenced by some Che Guevara quote?
Quixotic
Apr 1 2008, 3:00 pm
Quite logical really - the impossible is nonexistent and therefore it is nothing.
Im still confused! Does it make sense grammatically? Isn't it a bit like saying "Orange is table" or "Loud is television" that isn't English is it?
kyllmann
Apr 1 2008, 3:26 pm
Kinda like Apple's "Think different". Sounds wrong at first glance. Which I suppose is the idea, because it will cause people to stop and think about it. Lends itself to interpretation though. I think they're trying to convey the image that Addidas puts its wearers above the restraints of what other people might consider impossibe.
I certainly doubt this is just a translation gone wrong.
yes, I agree, I just had the suspicion that somewhere along the line a German speaker may have thought that it sounded a little better than it does to native speakers! The Apple slogan is similar but not as uncomfortable to me.
Jeeves
Apr 1 2008, 3:44 pm
Sure it's meant to make people sit up and take notice first and think about it second.
But there are limits, and this one is so annoying that it has the opposite effect on me from that intended.
kyllmann
Apr 1 2008, 3:45 pm
Yes, the Apple slogan isn't near as jarring.
UrbanAngel
Apr 1 2008, 3:46 pm
I'd be interested to hear Gideon's take on this. *prod prod*
kathie
Apr 1 2008, 3:48 pm
"Think different" is much more annoying, as it is quite simply grammatically incorrect. "Think differently" would be correct, as think is a verb and therefore requires an adverb, and not an adjective...
</pedant mode>
Handsome
Apr 1 2008, 3:50 pm
You are not thinking different there...
kyllmann
Apr 1 2008, 3:51 pm
Think pink. Think spring. Think different.
Might be an American English thing, but they all sound right to me.
I think apples slogan works because you aren't supposed to think differently but when you think of the product you should think of it as different from the competition. I think they hope you are obviously think that it is a good different.
Uncle Nick
Apr 1 2008, 3:52 pm
Maybe Yoda came up with the slogan. Or would that be "Impossible nothing is"?
marie-claire
Apr 1 2008, 3:55 pm
I actually like it. You need some kind of twist to catch attention. I have a much bigger problem with "jingle smells" and "come in and find out"
What's wrong with "come in and find out"?
marie-claire
Apr 1 2008, 4:12 pm
The way it was pronounced was quite annoying, it didn't sound right or interesting, just plain stupid and I just hated it. Sorry but that's my opinion.
QUOTE (marie-claire @ Apr 1 2008, 5:12 pm)

Sorry but that's my opinion.
No need to be sorry. I thought you were implying that it was grammatically incorrect.
gideon
Apr 1 2008, 5:03 pm
QUOTE (UrbanAngel @ Apr 1 2008, 4:46 pm)

I'd be interested to hear Gideon's take on this. *prod prod*
Oh I've been proded... Proded here, poked on facebook, I'm covered in virtual bruises I tell yee.
My thoughts. There are people who are paid to create copy, text and slogans which are grammatically correct. And then there are those who are paid to make a couple of words stand out and be boldly different, provocative and quirky. The former stick to the rules, and rule with sticks anyone who dare break the false constructs that they hold so dearly. The latter don't care for rules because in a competitive world impossible
is nothing because you think
different. The former live in a literary world, the later a verbal one where a strong consonant ending is an empowering call to face challenge compared to its grammatic but glib vowel like school-masterly request.
I could go on. But the very fact that the slogans are being discussed is worth more.
garibaldi
Apr 1 2008, 5:19 pm
BGE (Basic Global English) here we come.
9 grammar rules and a vocabulary of 750 words.
Future it is.
Cookieman
Apr 1 2008, 11:34 pm
Wow...if Wiki is right, adidas has a thing for stupidity...Its German slogan is,
QUOTE
Die Weltmarke mit den 3 Streifen ('The brand with the 3 stripes')
Is this true?
UrbanAngel
Apr 2 2008, 9:30 am
Why is that stupid?
Katrina
Apr 2 2008, 9:38 am
Isn't stupid at all - the three stripes are adidas as much as the swoosh is Nike. While adidas has other icons like their Trefoil, three stripes is their thing. And when the Tibetan protestors were being removed from the Olympic ceremony, I bet the clearly visible three stripes on the security people's tracksuits made the odd few wince in Herzo.
But what I am enjoying seeing in this thread is how everyone has been consistent with adidas' style sheet. adidas is always written lower case by the company and looking at the thread, that identity is coming across.
"Forever Sport" was the strapline before "impossible is nothing", just for completeness.
gideon
Apr 2 2008, 9:41 am
QUOTE (Katrina @ Apr 2 2008, 10:38 am)

Isn't stupid at all - the three stripes are adidas as much as the swoosh is Nike.
Unless they are in discusions with the IOC, then they are no longer a visual brand but a style element. Much to nike's annoyance.
Cookieman
Apr 2 2008, 10:06 am
QUOTE (UrbanAngel @ Apr 2 2008, 10:30 am)

Why is that stupid?
I am a fan of neither, but I guess it ( the slogan, not the logo) somehow feels a bit static...
And interestingly enough, the guys from across the river, PUMA, dont have a slogan...the whole lifestyle brand explanation!!
QUOTE (Jeeves @ Apr 1 2008, 3:25 pm)

Wasn't it about that time that Toyota came up with "Nichts ist unmöglich"?
toyota got that slogan since forever, but i surely thought they just swapped it around so it doesnt look like they just stole it from them
Lorelei
Apr 7 2008, 11:31 am
It sounds daft.
QUOTE (gideon @ Apr 1 2008, 6:03 pm)

There are people who are paid to create copy, text and slogans which are grammatically correct. And then there are those who are paid to make a couple of words stand out and be boldly different, provocative and quirky. The former stick to the rules, and rule with sticks anyone who dare break the false constructs that they hold so dearly. The latter don't care for rules because in a competitive world impossible is nothing because you think different. The former live in a literary world, the later a verbal one where a strong consonant ending is an empowering call to face challenge compared to its grammatic but glib vowel like school-masterly request.
QUOTE (gideon @ Apr 1 2008, 6:03 pm)

I could go on.
More! More!

QUOTE (gideon @ Apr 1 2008, 6:03 pm)

But the very fact that the slogans are being discussed is worth more.
The slogan makes you take notice, but not in a good way. It's not a smart play on words but a clunky expression that sounds unnatural. You're not going to read a slogan that bastardizes English and immediately think: "Hey, they speak pidgin English! They must be real professionals that sell brilliant products!"
Personally, I have no problems with "impossible is nothing".
To me, it suggests "achieving the impossible is nothing: we've already done it (and are now attempting the even more impossible, e.g. doing backward somersaults whilst juggling chainsaws, blindfolded and standing on one leg in a hammock)".
So I say it's grammatically (and possibly even semantically) correct, although perhaps logically speaking a little surreal.
I sincerely hope that "think different" doesn't imply that "think" is being used as a noun. As Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes fame once said: "Verbing weirds words!"
BarryD
Apr 14 2008, 5:08 am
QUOTE (Asq @ Apr 7 2008, 8:11 am)

Personally, I have no problems with "impossible is nothing".
I sincerely hope that "think different" doesn't imply that "think" is being used as a noun. As Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes fame once said: "Verbing weirds words!"
I also have no trouble with the idea that "Impossible is nothing" could be a shortening of "With adidas products, even the impossible is effortless."
But a phrase like "With {xxx} products..." would seem camp.
[camp] = not to be confused with [camping]
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