Soldier's Canadian wife denied British citizenship

This type of story makes me glad not to live in the UK anymore.

British soldier's wife told to leave country

it is a sad case but I don't this just a problem with Britain, it is typical of bureaucracies the world over.

According to German federal law, I am entitled to dual British and German citizenship, yet the Bavarian authorities refuse to allow it, despite a precedence case.

Of course it's unfortunate she's been denied citizenship, but I think the bigger problem is that her husband is being deployed. That woman has enough stress as it is with two young kids. Moving them to another country (Canada presumably) with her husband leaving is going to be incredibly stressful on the entire family...

Maybe she should have looked to get more information before the move. Would have helped if you ask me.

The MOD provided no information so they were hoping to, what, just move anyway and see what happens?

Of course I feel sorry for them but they should have gotten all of the facts beforehand.

Undoubtedly, though, the situation sucks for her and her family and the rules and stupid.

Totally. But that is why they should have fully informed themelves beforehand.

But what in earth made her call her kid Celeb?

Not into being a pedant but this made me laugh, like he's a cruise missile or something; "Deploy the husband!"
I think it should have been "deported".

Deploy as in 'send into combat'. The husband isn't being deported.

If he's going to Iraq or Afganistan to fight, that means he's being deployed. Or is the fact I'm dead tired really skewing my sense of humour?

Spot who didnt read the thread... Sorry!
Its probably differences in semantics as well, i would say he was being posted- which also sounds stupid out of context

Totally crap but unsurprising when you consider how HM Government treat Gurkha military wives and widows.

Probably speaks with the wrong accent or something.

Oh my God - can't believe you posted that! Not being a pedant but that really made me laugh - actually, not laugh but shake my head in despair. Why on earth would it have been deported!

See above. I didnt read the thread, didnt realise the guy was posted overseas. Saw it was about being denied citizenship and assumed husband was deported.
Contextual screw up, already apologised for.

Utterly disgusting. But wouldn't expect anything else from HMG.

You do all realise just how many applications are processed every single day and just how many applications OF THIS NATURE get turned down? Believe it or not, they do not have hundreds upon hundreds of people sitting down at their desks, going through every single application line by line. Sorry, they look at the details - Woman entered UK on a 6 month visa and asked to have changed to a permanent. Rules state this is not allowed so she gets refused. However, she can re-apply once out of the country WHICH SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Any idiot can go onto the UK Visa website and read very clear and precise instructions as to what to do. It really is not that difficult.

And you actually expect some "journalist" in the Telecrap to read all that? And give up on a perfect dime-a-scandal tear jerker?

Seems they were stationed in Germany where she was given a 5 year visa & then when he got orders for the UK, they rang the MoD to ask for info they were told to have a nice trip. But her kids are Brits and so is her Mother! which is probably why she figured she was (and is!) entitled to British citizenship.

The paper CLAIMS the MOD told her to have a nice trip...

My wife is "entitled" to British Citizenship as well. It says so on the Visa.gov website. It says it right above the part where it says that you cannot change the status of your entry visa in the UK. If you want a Fiancee visa you must apply BEFOREHAND. If you want to apply for permanent residency you must apply BEFOREHAND. They actually repeat this a number of times just in case you are too stupid to understand the first time.

I'm with Crawlie - fucking typical that all the Daily Mail sorts moan when we DO let people in, and then moan when we fucking well don't. Perhaps we should just let immigrants break the rules afterall - you guys wouldn't mind, would you?

Sorry. I had to change the topic title to give a more accurate description of the situation. Unfair to blame the Govt. on this one

It may indeed be her fault, but common sense would say: Don't deport the wives of soldiers being deployed. Bad for moral.

I've polished your fine alteration for you, sir.

@MAM. Common sense WOULD say that. However, when reviewing the thousands upon thousands of applications they receive they look at the basic information only to determine any violations. She was registered as entering the country on a temporary visa that was not viable for upgrading in any way, shape or form.

They do not, initially, look at the extra bits that says she was an army wife whose husband is being deployed and she did not realise she had to apply for a visa BEFORE entering the country because she thought she would be OK because she is married to some army bod and has two kids and is Canadian so that counts doesn't it?

Now. She could have gone through the MOD and all other sources but, instead, she decided that reporting it to the press was the more sensible option. Well, it certainly got her the attention she has been pining for.

there is actually a difference between a posting and a deployment. A posting will be the job a soldier is given and/or a his usual location in peacetime, for example an office of the Royal Welsh could be posted to Cyprus (since the 1st Battalion is garrisoned there). However, should the MoD decide his regiment has to do a 6-month tour, he could be deployed to, say, Iraq. So basically the difference is that a deployment is a short-term mobilisation of troops to a conflict area whereas a posting is his regular job at his regular garrison.

is there a postal address or an email address for yer wan?

i just so happen to have a valid british passport that is worth about as much as...well lets say its just taking up space.

she can have it.

Yep, but your wife cannot get it unless she is prepared to spend a number of years in the UK (naturalisation). Dips have a special privilege so their partners do not have to spend that time in the UK but i don't know if that extends to the forces.

She could have applied for residency, which would have been automatically granted I'm guessing, being married to a Brit. That doesn't require a number of years. It just requires filling out the right paperwork.

This whole thing is total shit. If you are eligible then you should be eligible by default not because you haven’t jumped through some bureaucratic hoop.
Meanwhile her husband is paying taxes so that the government can feed and house refugee claimants and other homeless immigrants.

Seems to me that she asked for help and:


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Quite possibly she thought she would be ok because her Mother is British and so were her grandparents and as her mother was born in the UK then she is a citizen otherwise than by desent:

CHILDREN WHO ARE BORN OUTSIDE THE UNITED KINGDOM TO BRITISH CITIZENS OTHERWISE THAN BY DESCENT
9. If you are a British citizen otherwise than by descent and you have a child who is born:
•
outside the United Kingdom before 21 May 2002, or
•
outside the United Kingdom and the qualifying territories on or after 21 May 2002
your child will be a British citizen by descent.

I reckon she should just go to Holland and get a Dutch passport

Indeed. But I bet she does the research and fills out the appropriate paperwork beforehand so as not to get deported