Why do supermarkets in Munich suck?

@ worm

Eh?

So women can only be interested in clothes? Good Lord have mercy!!!

Ok, if you wan to go that way, the same could be said for clothes here. I'm quite tall and usually buy trousers and jeans from the Tall ranges in Topshop or Dorothy Perkins. H&M and other stores I've been into don't have that option. Am I posting on forum decrying all German fashion because of it? No. I buy a nice skirt instead or some capri pants. Or a pair of trousers and have the hem dropped.

The point some of these people are trying to make is that there are times when you just have to adapt to your circumstances. We get that you're not happy with the way things are, and that's fine. But instead of posting on a forum, shouldn't you be taking some action? Write to your local supermarket or something, start a campaign, get other people involved. Don't bash people who have the audacity to believe something different to you.

So no actual foods then!

Oh and for all those fans of Vikualienmarkt - firstly, it's way too expensive and secondly, I don't want to shop like it's the fucking nineteenth century and go to 4 different greengrocers and 2 different specialist butchers.

Not as shitty as Australian supermarkets:


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http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=17785

Apparently the Australian supermarket blamed "bureaucracy" for the "poor quality".

Choice? Not according to this:

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?...ermarket+brands

randy, I'd be worried for your innards. But Oreos can be found in Müller at Munich Main Station, the branch next to the FC Bayern Fan shop, strangely enough. And Edeka airport large branch. Swiss Miss is in Karstadt, Main Station branch as are Fluff and Paul Newmans, French's mustard too and also your popping corn. Might also have marshmallows. Think possibly PopTarts too and I've both Hunt's either there or from Kaufhof at Rotkreuzplatz.
So no, you're not helping but I hope I've helped you. Do post back post-shop!

canaryman, get a new quote. That's a repost. Or maybe no-one is biting?

FFS isn't Worm allowed to moan about things he dislikes in Germany without being scolded? it's Toytown Germany, 'Germany's English-Speaking Crowd'. if he can't moan here where can he moan?
am glad you're happy with things here but some people aren't, it's quite simple really.

I am happy with supermarkets here but understand that not every expat is. and I am also happy with the selection of clothes for women and I'm 6ft and usually shop at DP/TopShop Tall in England!

@Canaryman

"Shitty" is relative. Australian consumers are so used to good quality that a slight decrease in what they expect is deemed "Poor Quality". Most Australians would be mortified by the crap you get in German supermarkets. It goes way below the "poor quality" reported at Coles.

Basically then a load of unhealthy junk!

When it comes to food, Priority Nummer Eins for Germans is cost - whether they`re eating out or at the supermarket - it has to be as cheap as possible. That way there`s more money left over for the car.

Most of them begrudge paying a little more for quality if you can get something cheaper that looks about the same even if it isnt as good. Not that different to the Brits and the Dutch. If you want good food, you have to live in France or Belgium. People there spend more on food even though they earn less than the Germans.

I'm a big fan of cheese. I've eaten, and enjoyed, a lot of Emmenthal in my time. What the germans call Emmenthal makes me weep in disappointment.

Sorry, 'twas a joke. I've seen enough Amerkanische Lebensmittelecke in the shops 'round here over the years, that I've basically memorized the key products they all sell.

But if I ever tire of the "you're american, why are you not fat?" questions, I think I'll try the what-German-markets-think-Americans-eat diet for a few months.

So, you do not hear many Germans moaning about the supermarkets in Germany but, as I have illustrated, but the Australians are moaning about their own supermarkets in Australia

What do I deduce from that?

Well, either the Australians on this forum that are making out that the utopian ideal of perfection that they purport to be actual, "back home" , does not actually exist or that they would moan wherever they were?

Obviously, the lack of German moaning about German supermarkets must mean that the Germans are being well catered for which is not suprising as Germans are the largest populous here. I am suprised that the Australian community in Australia is moaning about "shitty" supermarkets that should be catering for them.

Maybe, and here is a thought, the Australian supermarkets are catering for a moaning bunch of ex-pats but are not catering for the local Australian population

If you're used to shit, then you accept it. If you are used to high quality, then you don't accept even a small drop in quality.

Anyway, I was in Coles a month or so ago in Australia - and even the "poor quality" there shits all over German supermarkets.

Also, I know what you think of Australians. You don't like us for some reason. I don't know why and I don't particularly care what you think. For the benefit of others, here's a genuine Canaryman quote:


And you can see it for yourself right here

A lot of people from all over the globe are complaining about German supermarkets, but you choose to pick on Australians. Why? Did an Aussie chick break your heart?

Nope, I have worked with lots of them at "Toyota" and have the mis-fortune to have some in the family (Perth and Sydney)

Still, the guy that I shared a house with from Melbourne, (Angus) that was a manager at our local Tesco was a top bloke (He was a one off).

Anyway, as you have read those links, why do you think that there are so many Australians complaining about poor quality and choice in Australian supermarkets?

Want me to write it again?


And I'm sick of your anti-Australian shit. I'm sticking you on ignore

I lived in oz for 4 years, and the quality of their produce shits all over germany's from a very great height indeed

While I'm not Australian I would say its probably because people are unhappy and have no problem in voicing their opinion and desire for more/better quality. Germans dont seem to do this much. Same reason why they accept the horrible service you get here, especially in grocery stores. No American would accept going into a market and waiting behind 10 people while 3 other checkouts remain unmanned, they'd put their stuff down and go somewhere else. You just obviously have a bug up your a$$ against Australians for whatever reason.

So, Hazza. If the supermarkets in the UK, for example, are so excellent in comparison to the ones here, why are the whole UK ex-pat not continually moaning about the quality over here?

Your theory is that we, from the UK, are used to far better quality than here and therefore we should be moaning as much as you?

I do not believe that the Australians are complaining (in such large numbers that the CEO of one of your major chains has actually admitted to providing poor quality fruit, veg and meat) due to a "small drop in quality".

A lot of the UK ex-pats are complaining about the quality of the supermarket produce here. Even STB, who has no problems with the produce available here would agree that the supermarkets are pretty ropey. Fresh, tasty fruit and veg is available here, just not in the supermarkets.

Isn't ignore a great function. All I see is:


I bet he's made another veiled (or not so veiled) attack on Australians and come up with some comment that doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny.

Sorry can't help you on that one Hazza - I've had the same peeps on ignore for months!

Ozzie supermarkets rock, especially their delicatessen counters - they stretch for miles with sliced ham in about 20 variations.

Total utter bollox. Germans like rotten food. Americans are all fat and the British only ever eat fish & chips.


What? Washing machines usually have a short programme of 30 minutes or so. Maybe read the manual...


All this are certain brands and not exactly essentials. I can't go about moaning about Britain because they don't sell Hanuta or whatever in the shops here. If a shop doesn't sell your favourite brand of something it doesn't make them crap. And i'm sure a lot of these things you can get in espat shops or bring over with you as they're not perishables.


And I don't want to lose 3 hours in a blooming huge supermarket because I can't find anything because they've changed the layout again for the 5th time this month. Same stupid argument.


There is moaning and there is moaning. And there is hating everything just out of principle.


Supermarkets are never better with fruit & veg then a decent proper market. This holds for the UK, Germany and also other countries I've been to.

Oh this is pure comedy now. Where's Hazza?

Well I see you've completely missed the sarcasm there and taken what I said literally. I'm afraid you've conformed to a German stereotype right there...

Oh the irony!!

I'm off to eat a rotten fruit-fly infested apple now - because that's the way I like it.

Well at least you won't have any trouble finding one

She will, she's in the UK. Pay attention at the back!

She could get relatives to send them in a food package

How does a discussion about supermarkets descend into personal attacks and mockery? No one is allowed to have a different opinion to the norm? I thought the attack on Australians was particularly in poor taste...and no, I don't even know any Australians.

Just debate the topic at hand and leave out the personal jibes...unless this is what makes TT go around, in which case, oh dear!

Easier just to purchase fresh from the UK supermarket and then leave in the corner for 7-10 days to "Germanize" the fruit and veg.


I can see you are still struggling to get with the programme here islandchick. I shall try and spell it out again. The forum THRIVES..nay EXISTS on the very basis of different opinions to the norm. Just imagine
for a moment that we all agreed German supermarkets were super and hunky dory? This thread and all the others would be deader than Elvis.

Of course it sometimes gets outta hand, and sometimes people are over the top - but that is 'cos Editor Bob tries to keep the rules to a minimum. Just ignore the dross and block people like me you learn to dislike.

Elvis is dead?

I was talking about Elvis the cat. The King lives on of course.

Phew, that's a relief!

Are you suggesting we learn to dislike you?

I accept it doesn't normally take most people very long, but islandchick does seem a bit slow on the uptake, so was trying to state the obvious.

Actually some stuff you buy here keeps for at least 3 weeks without a blemish. THAT should make you wonder...

I decided to give a guy who named himself after a shitty Rowan Atkinson movie, the benefit of the doubt. More fool me...

Ya see - doesn't it feel just sooooooo much better to join in with the cheap shots? I can see you are making excellent progress and gonna give you a B+ for effort.

We have you mudslinging already and in this very thread you were griping about others doing it. Another convert to the cause.

When in Rome...

You see what I mean? And you cannot in all honesty tell me that that was a good movie. I got dragged to see that at the cinema, to keep someone company. Needless to say, that person and I are no longer friends, the movie was so bad. So in reality, I'm attacking the poor film-making and not your poor judgement.

See??

still osmachar fails to understand that I am not complaining (as some others are) about the unavailability of english products in Germany. I honestly couldn't care about those. I am making a point about the general standard of meat (and vegetables) in german shops. thats not complaining for the sake of complaining, I am pointing out that it's rubbish. Of course i still eat it, but it's rubbish. And your counter-argument is wrong. Basically you are using the arguing method of " DJ Bobo is equally as good and valid as Beethoven, because it's all about personal taste", which is just total bollocks.

My argument is simply that you're shopping in the wrong places! Give me my local farmer's market over an identikit Tesco's any day.

I picked my name in homage to a schoolfriend who looked just like Rowan Atkinson. To the degree that he used to sign autographs for fun sometimes. He died of a drug overdose in South Africa about 10 years ago. Never seen the film but I can imagine it probably sucks.

stb - i agree that of course there is good stuff to be had out there, but for someone living in the centre of munich, it doesn't seem to be readily available, whereas at least in my local morrisons at the meat counter, I can buy well hung beef, lamb and various forms of chicken (cornfed, organic etc) if i so desire. remember, we can't all go shopping at markets during the day

My local foostore in inner Munich is PACKED to jammers, you can hardly move in there sometimes.
I'd estimate they offer a product range of at least 3 times as many lines as a Tesco Metro in the UK.
But to offer all the wonderful products that you can supposedly get in the UK, what should they drop?

Reading the thread, I'm just finishing a plate of spagetti with king prawns and mushrooms in a creamy garlicky sauce with a dab of Rioja.
Picked up the ingredients at a PLUS on the way home from work at 1945 yesterday and had it ready quicker than a Kylie Remix.
What IS the problem?


You need to compare LIKE with LIKE.
In size of retail outlet and town planning structure.

***** STOP PRESS ******

Her indoors purchased what must be a new "Golden Toast" product yesterday. Normally I think those are the boys that make the pasty white toasting bread that comes out the packet tasting
like it could also be used for wall insulation.

This one is called KÖRNER HARMONIE SANDWICH. Something must have gone wrong with this batch 'cos it is soft, and tastes great. You could make a cheese sandwich with this baby
and still have a full set of teeth available at the end. Packet says with an extra portion of flaxseed (leinsamen) but we don't care about that.

And then all kinda casual she adds "Oh yeah, and if peckish you can have some of the strawberries in the fridge". WTF!!! Strawberries??? It's only April. We are not in the fixed 10-day-only-eat-stawberry season.

This is pretty major stuff. She'll probably come home with fresh tuna steak tonight the way things are going.

Comedy gold right there. Had to give you props for that exchange!

Is this the one that is quite a dark brown...? If so, I agree its very nice, but the kids weren´t keen so they are back to Volkorn Sandwich which is not so strongly coloured.

PS. I was in France over Easter...I went into a supermarket feeling hungry and just about passed out from the overstimulation I experienced. Very rare I want to eat anything there and then when I shop in Munich.

Just thought that this should be preserved for posterity. Chicken can be in short suppy round here. I often wondered why.

I was wondering how long it would take someone to pick up on my rash generalisation!

The chicken here sucks. Any black person worth their weight in grits (whatever grits are) would think so too. But, I just assumed it was because Germans prefer the olde pork instead. No big deal. I was unaware that my two weeks in Munich had caused a region-wide chicken shortage. My bad!

Maybe vegetarianism really is the answer...

I am justb saying that in my experience there are plenty of shops selling very good quality and that you are just going on dismissing things for the sake of it.


Exactly. Some people seem to be able to find the good shops and shop there.


Well, if you can't find good food in the centre of a big city then I don't know what's wrong with you. In my experience there are loads of really nice food shops in the centre of Munich. Open your eyes.


Toast: PERSONAL PREFERENCE as I said before.

Strawberries in April - not really very tasty nor very environmentally friendly as they're imported and causing many food miles.

That's not true anymore, at least as far as quality is concerned, with today's temperature controlled means of transportation available out there. We get excellent strawberries from China when we can't produce them here.

Have you ever lived anywhere else apart from the UK or Germany?