jim cross
Mar 16 2008, 1:24 am
Hi guys. I'm moving to
Schoneberg in April, and am looking for an artists studio to paint in. I'm thinking that it might be better to find a cheap unfurnished one-zimmer? Or is finding a proper space fairly easy? I'd prefer not to share, and 24 hour access is required, ideally. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
sunny
Mar 16 2008, 9:05 am
Your best bet might be trying to find a small 1 zimmer erdgeschoss (ground floor) wohnung.
If you have a look in the "Gewerbeimmobilien" section of Immobilienscout
www.immobilienscout24.de/de/finden/gewerbe/index.jsp
and then click under "Büros/ Praxen"
you can do a search for various neighborhoods, size and price. If you create a user account, Immobilienscout will save your search criteria and email you every few days with new listings. We just got an office last month and it is a smallish one room with kitchen and bath about 5 minutes from us in Charlottenburg for a great price. Invite me to your first show!
jim cross
Mar 16 2008, 2:45 pm
Thanks Sunny, that's helpful

I know the site you mean, as I have been using it to get an apartment. So I will keep checking there. I'm presuming these spaces come with running water and electricity? Or do you need to connect up to utilities yourself? Another question: did you get hit for a hefty deposit or "Kaution"? Because the cheaper the better ... more money for paint!
This is a more general point, and I'd be interested what practising artists out there think about it. I've heard there is a lot of cheap studio space in Wedding, sometimes due to partnerships between artists co-ops and groups like Degewo. On the face of it these schemes seem a brilliant idea, in which everyone ( artists, the residents, the area ) benefits ... but am I being naive? Is there some sinister plot on the part of government bodies and so on to, in the name of " gentrification" and "regeneration", to basically make Wedding a carbon-copy of kiez like Prenzlauer Berg, turfing out residents, the poor, the immigrant? Because I'm not sure I want to participate in such a move, however tempting cheap studio space is... people are far more important than any of my daubings!
sunny
Mar 16 2008, 7:00 pm
water and heat are usually covered in the "Nebenkosten" and usually up and running when you move in. Check with the landlord on this though. Immobilienscout always lists the nebencosten and kaution so you can calculate that all up front. What you want to avoid is paying a "provision" (comission).
I've seen really high kautions and really low - you just have to look.
Electricity you have to get hooked up yourself. We use flexstrom, they have good deals. For phone and internet we used 1&1 - good rates as well.
I'm not sure I follow your rationale on the last question. If the space is cheap, why would it force out immigrants and poor? It's cheap!
billp
Mar 16 2008, 7:19 pm
Gentrification happens when choice city districts are run down and aren't being put to their most profitable use, and developers see an opportunity to improve living conditions or restore buildings in order to make more money. It's the free market. There's no sinister plot. Most co-op artists studio space in Berlin is in old industrial real estate, of which Berlin has an over-supply. No immigrants are being "turned out." So go for it. Another place to look is on the bulletin board at the UdK and at serious art supply stores. For instance, at the art store on Kastanienallee near the corner of Schwedter Str. there are often notes from artists looking to share their lofts.
I live in
Schöneberg. You don't have to walk too far to find vacant, ground floor space for rent. If you don't find something through immobilienscout you may find something just by walking around the neighborhood.
lolo
Mar 16 2008, 8:51 pm
Why is everyone so damn P.C force out immigrants and poor.Bah humbug I am poor and an immigrant. Your a rich artist who can afford it. Find an old shop front a EG and move in there are lots about and none your beloved immigrants and poor. Will ever be forced out.
Check out taekker.de
lolo
Mar 16 2008, 8:56 pm
Prenzl. Berg Christburger Str. 36
VH EG rechts
49,64 m² 1
Kalt 223,38 € 64,53 € zzgl. GESAMTMIETE 287,91 € keine Heizung .
I can really see the poor and the immigrants lining up to live here
jim cross
Mar 16 2008, 11:22 pm
joy, bill and sunny, thanks guys, for sharing info, you've been really helpful and i appreciate it. i'm following up leads in both produzentgalerie and looking forward to seeing what one-zimmers, kellers or any other space presents itself. but all will be well. and this forum is great, that people take time out from their own lives to pass on tips and/or opinions out of the goodness of their own hearts!
lolo- i'd suggest you don't make assumptions about someone you do not know, and the accusation, if that's what it is, of being "PC" sounds like something from a neo-con handbook! If the odd doubt or hesitation, or political scruple, crosses my mind, (having canvassed a wide range of opinions about what is occurring in Wedding), some of whom feel quite strongly that it is a combination of property developers, ie Degewo, and city authorities eager to get rid of "run-down" areas that is powering the attempts at "regeneration" ( presumably ...making it a white boring soft-eco Xerox of P'Berg, where you live, where Brooklyn emigres can sip lattes and congratulate themselves on their anaemic brand of bohemianism), then that just makes me somebody who doesn't want to foul my own nest. And is sensitive to context. Stupid, I know...maybe I should buy a Che Guevara T-shirt from a store in Friedrichshain and find myself an 'ironic' flat on Karl Marx Allee. And I'm not a "rich artist"!! I'm an engaged one, who's interested in other's opinions. I've seen the human cost of similar "gentrifications" in Shoreditch, Hoxton, the Bastille and 1990s P'Berg. Unholy alliances of property developers, marketing/media/PR/tourist/governmental bodies working out how to milk the hipster pound or euro at the same time as "de-ethnic" their area. You dont have be a "pc" conspiracy theorist to grasp the point. You just have to be conscious.