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Keydeck
Smartedi, a misnomer if ever there was one.

"Are your brain full of these ?" "You dare yourself!". Smartedi, this is a website for native English speakers. Kindly to be fucking offski.
Conquistador
So the treasures are actually irrelevant to any discussion of Taiwan's status. Bringing them up was nationalistic ranting on stray bird's part, much as his bluster and threats against the US were.

FYI, the US will not go to war with China over Taiwan. Taiwan matters a lot to China, but not to the US. There is no need to threaten us and your saber-rattling does not indicate confidence, rather it implies a great insecurity vis-a-vis the US. Relax- there is no benefit to either the US or China to fight over Taiwan, and although China would, as I just said the US would not.

The notions that Taiwanese pay taxes to the PRC and obey the PRC's constitution (as if the PRC's leadership obeys their constitution) are patently absurd.
thefirelane
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:22 am) *
If normal Chinese people have some ideas different from you, then Chinese are brainwashed...

No... if it is ILLEGAL to learn about certain things, then Chinese people are brainwashed. It's a huge difference.

By the way.. does anyone remember... weren't the Chinese aiding the Serbs in the genocide? (information, etc) I seem to remember we bombed their embassy for this reason (claiming it was due to an "incorrect map") Does anyone remember, or am I making that up?

Edit: dammit.. I want to sleep... but every time I see your name in italics smartedi, I just have to keep hitting refresh.
smartedi
QUOTE (thefirelane @ Feb 22 2008, 12:17 am) *
Jesus, a Chinese person defending the Japanese in world war II and seeing the US as the bad guys. I'm glad to see ignorance isn't purely a US thing.

Hey smartedi, go ask your grandparents their opinion of the Japanese in WWII and how they feel about the nukes.

That's the problem with brainwashed people, they'll unfortunately never see how brainwashed they are.

Stop your rumor about your brainwashed illusion. It is far from the facts.

Sure, US has helped China again Japan in the WW2. So I don't hate US. But that doesn't mean, I approve all your ridiculous wars in other countries nowadays. Any wars in Kosovo are shits!!! We would also never forget your shit bomb to Chinese ambassy in Belglad. You are not world police, just the war machine or war seller in the world!

About the nuclear in Japan, it was wrong, I am against using Nuclear even to the XXX Japan.

But japanese are really idiots to give so much love to the country who have put nuclear there.

Anyway, I don't agree the wars made by US government. Please vote for more peaceful president next time in US!
Keydeck
Seriously, are we allowing this fucktardity to continue?

Let me rephrase that in the spirit of the thread.

Seriously, are we this fucktardity to continue allowing?
thefirelane
Hey, smartedi... I totally agree, I will vote for a peaceful president...

can you vote for one too? Oh wait.
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 12:23 am) *
Smartedi, a misnomer if ever there was one.

"Are your brain full of these ?" "You dare yourself!". Smartedi, this is a website for native English speakers. Kindly to be fucking offski.

haha, stop emphysize that you speak perfect fucking english. English is the motherlanguage for the people in UK. So you are no better than me! You should just kindly to be FXcking offski.
bye!
Keydeck
I'm actually not from the UK you silly spacktard. You as an individual do not conform to the requirements of this website. No arguments, no discussions, simple fact. Or in words that you might understand, we be not you looking for type of you here.
smartedi
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 12:24 am) *
So the treasures are actually irrelevant to any discussion of Taiwan's status. Bringing them up was nationalistic ranting on your part, much as your bluster and threats against the US are.

FYI, the US will not go to war with China over Taiwan. Taiwan matters a lot to China, but not to the US. There is no need to threaten us; however, I am glad to see that you have essentially repudiated your previous threats to "destroy the world" with nuclear weapons, which would indeed be an offensive action. Your saber-rattling does not indicate confidence, rather it implies a great insecurity vis-a-vis the US. Relax- there is no benefit to either the US or China to fight over Taiwan, and although China would, as I just said the US would not.

The notions that Taiwanese pay taxes to the PRC and obey the PRC's constitution (as if the PRC's leadership obeys their constitution) are patently absurd.

hi,
I am not against US totally, sometimes, US is a lovely friend. But you committed really a lot of evils in the world to make a lot of wars in other countries.

I don't like threatening any countries, which is the favourite way of USA.

China is never Threaten to any countries.

Your words about Taiwan shows your absurd idea and vacance of Chinese knowledge. But it is normal to a US citizen, since maybe you could even not know well of USA.

In China, in some special regions, e.g. Hongkong, Macau, Taiwan,
they have their own constitution. and they never pay any taxes to China Central Governments like other provinces and autonomies.

This shows our Chinese style tolorance.

And about the nuclear weapons, US must be the last guy who has rights to come out to criticize.
how many evil things have you done with some horrible weapons?

just go to have a self review.

have fun!
Keydeck
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:38 am) *
This shows our Chinese style tolorance.

Funniest sentence I've read on TT evah!

I'm amazed that you know how to almost spell the word, let alone have any concept of what it means. Chinese style tolerance, are you fucking kidding me? Are you really Chinese or are you just trying to paint Chinese people in a bad light, because you're doing a spectacular (or perhaps spactacular) job of it.
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 12:32 am) *
I'm actually not from the UK you silly spacktard. You as an individual do not conform to the requirements of this website. No arguments, no discussions, simple fact. Or in words that you might understand, we be not you looking for type of you here.

Do you have right to tell me to obey the rules or emphasize the rule of this website???

what did you write just seconds ago???

I never want to quarrel , but discuss. Maybe you don't know what is really like in China. You just like to have some illusion of brainwashed, and Tiananmen. I don't know who washed your brain???

Where you are from is no important.

And if you stop your absurd ideas about China, and use some more polite way to discuss, stop your self good feeling of your english.
They the air here must be much more friendly.
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 12:42 am) *
Funniest sentence I've read on TT evah!

so, wish you good dream, have nice night, good night and have fun! smile.gif
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 12:21 am) *
This thread is attracting some of the finest "native English speakers" around.

Don't be cruel!

who is English native speakers?? only British.

US ...

maybe...

If US could come,

why not other people?
Conquistador
I guess the PRC must really be impotent since it cannot project its authority to Taiwan, and it is laughable that you can't seem to make up your mind whether Taiwan is paying taxes to the PRC or not.

From the looks of things, I would say that Taiwan isn't a part of China; after all, I never heard of any part of China choosing their President in a democratic election, which Taiwan will soon do for the fourth straight time.

As for war in Kosovo, perhaps you should proffer your advice to the Serbs who seem to disagree with you.

BTW, are you denying that the Tianamen Square massacre occurred in 1989?
thefirelane
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:38 am) *
This shows our Chinese style tolorance.

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[img]http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/06/03/bodies,0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/cur/Baker_00/2001_p2/baker_sf_jw_p2/studentd.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.essentialspirit.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mascr017.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/falun_gung.jpg[/img]
MonksTown
Jesus, I'm looking forward to that the City of Munich can declare itself independent from Bavaria.
And independent from Germany as well. No problem.
Conquistador
And no doubt you will be looking to impose Marxist-Leninism as well, right, MT? wink.gif

I think smarty and Bato would love to work for such a regime, perhaps in the Propaganda Information Ministry. laugh.gif
Keydeck
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:42 am) *
Do you have right to tell me to obey the rules or emphasize the rule of this website???

Yes, I do. In fact any member of the Toytown website has the right to point out or complain about an infringement of its rules.

QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:45 am) *
who is English native speakers?? only British.

US ...

maybe...

No you silly fuckwit. "English native speakers" are people who can speak the English language to a native standard. You can not. This is not my opinion, this is a fact, it is indisputable. You can look that last word up if you wish. You do not belong here. I'm actually struggling a little to find another way to make that more clear to you. I'm kinda looking for a baseball-bat type phrasing but for now it eludes me.

TFL, well phrased.
smartedi
QUOTE (thefirelane @ Feb 22 2008, 12:29 am) *
Hey, smartedi... I totally agree, I will vote for a peaceful president...

can you vote for one too? Oh wait.

Thank you for your good wish.

You would surely get this moment in your life. Chinese must vote for our country.

But but

at the moment, we don't need to waste 20 Billion dollars for such a 4 years' vote like what happens in USA.

We are not so rich or wasting.

USA are so generous to pay for such vote for a mightable war seller president.

We have no such votes now, but we are a peaceful country. I am proud of this.

What are u proud of your vote???

Only for so many absurd wars in the world as a result of your wonderful votes???

Are u proud of earning so much money from other sorrow lands where are invaded by US troops???
Conquistador
MT, meet your Chinese comrade-in-arms! rolleyes.gif

Actually, MT, I suspect that if you can be weaned off of political discussions you are a decent bloke. Now as for smarty here...
Keydeck
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:51 am) *
We are not so rich or wasting...USA are so generous to pay for such vote for a mightable war seller president...Only for so many absurd wars in the world as a result of your wonderful votes???

Why do these Yoda-speakers only show up at night when the Mods are asleep. And more importantly, why is it that the TT Moderators go to bed so early?
smartedi
QUOTE (thefirelane @ Feb 22 2008, 12:47 am) *
[img]http://and-still-i-persist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/image.jpeg[/img]
[img]http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/06/03/bodies,0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/cur/Baker_00/2001_p2/baker_sf_jw_p2/studentd.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.essentialspirit.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mascr017.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/falun_gung.jpg[/img]

These fotos have been posted since 1989, nearly 20 years.

Do you have anything new to support your rumors about China???

Do you have some pictures in Irac or Affganistan or Kosovo???
What have US done in the recent years???

Do you dare to post them? Or your brain is washed ???
thefirelane
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:51 am) *
at the moment, we don't need to waste 20 Billion dollars for such a 4 years' vote like what happens in USA.

Holy shit... at first I thought that was a reference to the Iraq war or something.

No.

He's actually saying that China is smarter because they save money by not wasting it on elections! laugh.gif

Ok, I'm going to sleep smiling, good night all.
smartedi
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 12:53 am) *
MT, meet your Chinese comrade-in-arms!

Actually, MT, I suspect that if you can be weaned off of political discussions you are a decent bloke. Now as for smarty here...

Sure, if you could be weaned off of your political rumors about China.
Or any other one could be weaned off of this.
thefirelane
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 12:55 am) *
These fotos have been posted since 1989, nearly 20 years.

Actually, the last one is nice and freshly new from your friends the falun gong... how's life for them in China anyway?
Conquistador
One problem with posting pictures from China is that the PRC censors like crazy.
Hey, brainwashed smarty, maybe you care to tell us what you are doing in Munich?
MonksTown
As humanity we ALL have the responsibility to learn from the attacks on human rights.
I think that blaming one group lets the others off the hook.

I'm in favour of ordianry women and men living together in peace for the benefit of us all, trouble is, that excludes some knuts who want to rip off YOU for their profit.
Keydeck
Edi, I dropped the 'smart' bit because, well it was sticking in my craw a little, read these words slowly and carefully...You do not belong here. This is a website for native, or near native, English speakers. You are not one. Your posts have made that clear. You neither have an understanding of how people use the language nor an ability to use it yourself. This is not the website for you. And, eh, these are not the droids you're looking for.
smartedi
QUOTE (thefirelane @ Feb 22 2008, 12:56 am) *
Holy shit... at first I thought that was a reference to the Iraq war or something.

No.

He's actually saying that China is smarter because they save money by not wasting it on elections!
Ok, I'm going to sleep smiling, good night all.

Actually, we don't have so much money wasting for such votes. We are still a developing country.

And I have to say, US are so smart, that it earn so much money from invaded country like Iraq and use these money back in USA to vote for a new war seller. And continue earning much more money.

Good night!
Conquistador
Your proof of this claim, smarty? Or did it come from state-controlled media in the PRC, i.e., brainwashing?

Funny thing about money for elections, Taiwan doesn't have any problem with being able to pay for theirs.
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:00 am) *
Edi, I dropped the 'smart' bit because, well it was sticking in my craw a little, read these words slowly and carefully...You do not belong here. This is a website for native, or near native, English speakers. You are not one. Your posts have made that clear. You neither have an understanding of how people use the language nor an ability to use it yourself. This is not the website for you.

haha, stop emphasizing your wonderful English.

I don't believe.
Keydeck
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 1:02 am) *
I don't believe.

laugh.gif I give in to your insurmountable logic.

Kinda like Dr. King standing up to the podium and proclaiming, "Last night I slept pretty well".
smartedi
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 12:45 am) *
I guess the PRC must really be impotent since it cannot project its authority to Taiwan, and it is laughable that you can't seem to make up your mind whether Taiwan is paying taxes to the PRC or not.

From the looks of things, I would say that Taiwan isn't a part of China; after all, I never heard of any part of China choosing their President in a democratic election, which Taiwan will soon do for the fourth straight time.

As for war in Kosovo, perhaps you should proffer your advice to the Serbs who seem to disagree with you.

BTW, are you denying that the Tianamen Square massacre occurred in 1989?

hi, I don't call Tiananmen Square event a massacre.

It is complicated to say who is much wronger. I don't agree the governments to kill them so easily, I disagree either the students to do such things. It is no good to both.

And this is not the unique thing only happening in China. Please check if in your own country such similiar things happened.

All wars in Kosovo are shits. But to use fault against fault, I never see its benefit.

As what I said, please have more patience, we would have free vote, but definitely not US style vote. Until now, I have never seen the benefits of your systems but only wars and wars, killings and bombing... and sometimes rumors.

And about Falun Kong, they are made use of some evil countries against China. The Idea of Falunkong are stupid. But the people who practise it are also wretched since they are fooled and never known.

You could get a investigation to Chinese in Europe about Falun Kong. You would get the results yourself.

If you are agains or approval something only because it is from PR China. Then you are no objective and never be accepted by the most of Chinese.

If you just get fun from rumors, then just get fun! better without China.
MonksTown
CIA soft agents in active on Toytown shocker! ohmy.gif
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:07 am) *
I give in to your insurmountable logic.

Kinda like Dr. King standing up to the podium and proclaiming, "Last night I slept pretty well".

Your logic about China is also not acceptable by most of Chinese people. Stop using brainwashed, it is not because of this, Man!

Just because your logic is not a logic.

If you really want to know a real China, then, talk more friendly and try to understand what you hear.

If you keep yourself behind a wall, then you would never understand,

Maybe you would say,

China is so bad, why Chinese people don't want to accept the truth?

I tell you,

Just because it is not a truth!

SO simply.

China is not perfect, but also not so bad as you imagined. Your rumors won't help, just make some unfreindly talks.

good night!
smartedi
QUOTE (MonksTown @ Feb 22 2008, 1:10 am) *
CIA soft agents in active on Toytown shocker!

Hehe, I am just a normal Chinese.

nothing special.

China might be far more than what you could understand,

just try to understand, abandon your illusions please.
Keydeck
Please stop saying "Good night" if you're not going to fuck off afterwards. You're getting my hopes up each time. Do you understand the sentence, "You do not belong here"?
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:07 am) *
I give in to your insurmountable logic.

Kinda like Dr. King standing up to the podium and proclaiming, "Last night I slept pretty well".

Or do you think I should accept some wrong ideas from many people?

If I tell u the true information from the eyes of normal Chinese people, you would say it is insurmountable logic...

so, see,

who is brainwashed???
MonksTown
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:16 am) *
"You do not belong here"?

But I'd so love to rip the hair off your chest with only semi-cooled wax. sad.gif
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:16 am) *
Do you understand the sentence, "You do not belong here"?

Sure, I understand the sentence "YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE!"

And maybe you should as what you said, fuck off back to your evil world.
smartedi
QUOTE (MonksTown @ Feb 22 2008, 1:19 am) *
But I'd so love to rip the hair off your chest with only semi-cooled wax.

Yeah, he needs this.
Keydeck
Brainwashed. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.*

*Inigo
smartedi
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 1:02 am) *
Your proof of this claim, smarty? Or did it come from state-controlled media in the PRC, i.e., brainwashing?

Funny thing about money for elections, Taiwan doesn't have any problem with being able to pay for theirs.

Hi, I really don't understand why do you love so much to believe I am brainwashed by the State-controlled media?
I have been living here many years, even it was washed, then maybe washed again by your rumors if it was really very easy to be washed.

Taiwan's Election???

They chose a independent cheater President 8 years ago, and nowadays, what is the life and society compared to 8 years ago?

what is benefit for such a president??? From this, I can't see the meaning using same elections in other chinese provinces. And recently, the normal Taiwan people have used their vote to punish the independent group...

look at the result of DPP in Taiwan..
hehe... Facts always, talks.

Of course Chinese, needs also Elections, but must be a good election system. We can't afford to make the country in risk. This is idea from normal Chinese. You could even ask others.
smartedi
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Feb 22 2008, 1:23 am) *
Brainwashed. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.*

*Inigo

Hi, Man,

who taught u to lie?

This is your favourite words, I am never brainwashed, and could never be.

I wonder who wash your brain? It seems that we couldn not understand or agree with each other at once, so, the best is to go to sleep.
good night!
Conquistador
QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 1:28 am) *
Hi, I really don't understand why do you love so much to believe I am brainwashed by the State-controlled media?
I have been living here many years, even it was washed, then maybe washed again by your rumors if it was really very easy to be washed.

So what do you do here? Are you working for the Chinese government? As for brainwashing, it is evident from the things you say.

QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 1:28 am) *
Taiwan's Election???

They chose a independent cheater President 8 years ago, and nowadays, what is the life and society compared to 8 years ago?

what is benefit for such a president??? From this, I can't see the meaning using same elections in other chinese provinces. And recently, the normal Taiwan people have used their vote to punish the independent group...

So why is Taiwan so special that they can have an election, but not the PRC, or any part of the PRC? After all, you say that the Taiwanese are obeying the PRC constitution.

QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 1:28 am) *
look at the result of DPP in Taiwan..
hehe... Facts always, talks.

Perhaps a Taiwanese is better able to analyze Taiwan, but it looks to me that Taiwan is doing very well.

QUOTE (smartedi @ Feb 22 2008, 1:28 am) *
Of course Chinese, needs also Elections, but must be a good election system. We can't afford to make the country in risk. This is idea from normal Chinese. You could even ask others.

So now you say China needs elections. That's good that you have reached this conclusion. Earlier you said the country could not afford the money to have elections (a ridiculous idea) so I think now you know better.

Exactly how are elections a risk for China? Do you have a lot of guanxi?
smartedi
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 1:49 am) *
So what do you do here? Are you working for the Chinese government? As for brainwashing, it is evident from the things you say.

this your strange thinking way. Why should I have some ideas different from our Government? Why not the same opinion? Do you always have different ideas with your government? if you have the same, you are brainwashed?

In your logic, you are working for CIA?

QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 1:49 am) *
So why is Taiwan so special that they can have an election, but not the PRC, or any part of the PRC? After all, you say that the Taiwanese are obeying the PRC constitution.

Because it is easier to make an election in a small area of lands. But for whole China, we need some time. As i have said, Taiwan's way of election has not shown much benefit in our views.

QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 1:49 am) *
Perhaps a Taiwanese is better able to analyze Taiwan, but it looks to me that Taiwan is doing very well.

I have talked many times and very often with some taiwanese in messenger. I listen to what they think. But the elected President Chen, is really a shit cheater according most of Taiwnese's opinions.

QUOTE (Conquistador @ Feb 22 2008, 1:49 am) *
So now you say China needs elections. That's good that you have reached this conclusion. Earlier you said the country could not afford the money to have elections (a ridiculous idea) so I think now you know better.
Exactly how are elections a risk for China? Do you have a lot of guanxi?

Of course we need elections in China. But not definitely US way of election. We have actually at present already some ecletions in China. But it is not so good system. I am objective to China's problems. But I am not so negative as you saw. It is natually that I have different ideas from you. If you call this democracy, you should respect the Chinese to have different ideas from you and never use brainwashed any more.

I just wonder, where have you washed your brain against China. It is good that you care much about the development of China, but if you want to try to "wash" our brain with your opinion, that would only fail. No one knows China better than Chinese.

Guanxi, I don't have what you thought in China. I am just a normal Chinese. Guanxi is always importan everywhere in the world, in Germany, Europe. But I think, Mr. George W. Bush has more Guanxi in USA with some Weapon sellers, maybe he was supported or (given money for some purposes) in the elections and that is why he is so addicted to make wars.

Therefore, Uncle Sam is the largest terrorist in the world. He always tried his best to wash the brains in other countries although he knows it would never succeed. But he would force them to even in the way of war. smile.gif
smartedi
Sorry, I forgot to answer your question about my wasting money for election saying.

Sure, we could not afford at the moment 20 Billion Dollars for an Election like that in USA. Your election way is too expensive.
With this money, USA government could help so many many africa childrens. And even with so high expense, you could not find a wise president, but only a war seller, or a terror for this world.

How could we Chinese imitate that?

We would get so called free elections, I never doubt this. JUst a question of time.

China has started to develope from 1978, you should give us a little more time.

Taiwan could be a good experiment, if some kinds of election runs well, we could maybe try to adopt. But until now, unfortunately, it runs not so good in Taiwan.

We are also thinking how could we lead an object and fair election in the 1,4 Billion people's republic.

But please be a little patient. I don't have very different opinion from you at this point. And I have to tell u, I am not totally against USA, but agains your war and some horrible policies.

Anyone could be nice guy, e.g USA could also do some good deeds, anyone could also do some terrorible thing, e.g. USA makes so many wars and kills a lot innocent lives.

China Communist Party has done something wrong before 1978, that is also true, but nowadays, they are doing better and better. I have to tell u, most of Chinese people are not addicted to any system, who does well, who get the political power.

Stop any wrong rumors, please.
Odenwalder
As we've seen from the "demonstrations" in Serbia yesterday, there is a high probability that any demonstration conducted in Germany will not remain peaceful. Especially when it's Germany, the US, and the UK that have supported Kosovo (and a few others, but you're more likely to run in to Germans, Americans, and Brits in Munich than any other nationaility). My advice would be to stay clear and watch the news to see how it turned out. There's a fairly good chance that this will turn ugly and will be on every news station.

Oh, and China? Has to do with this demonstration how?
Sin
QUOTE (MonksTown @ Feb 22 2008, 12:48 am) *
Jesus, I'm looking forward to that the City of Munich can declare itself independent from Bavaria.
And independent from Germany as well. No problem.

Oi! You forgot the bit about being a tax free haven.
Genie
Is Kosovo in China? I don't get it.
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