Celebrate Australia Day at Belushi's Bar

Belushi's Bar
Rosa Luxemburg Straße 39-41 (Google Map)
10178 Berlin-Mitte

do we still have a few aussies in TT berlin? I can only think of one...

here's one... but i have to work saturday wonder what time it finishes...

was I the one? GG

sounds well thought out, the sort of impression you might get of australia on a 3 week TUI package tour of the drinks and miscellaneous groceries section of Coles. no wonder going broke is one of the main specialisations of the berliner gastronomie.

This sounds fun. Do they have flags we can wave? Anybody know the national anthem? I luv them celebrations

Excuse my ignorance but what is 'Australia Day'? Do the Abboes celebrate it?

i rest my case.

"Abboes" or perhaps you were trying to say "Abo's" short for Aborigines. Either way if that is what your trying to say the word is considered incredibly disrespectful to Native Australians.

Really? I thought it was just an affectionate short-hand way of saying Aborigine, like 'Aussie' for Australian. Besides I heard the locals use it all the time when I was over there and SURELY native Australians have always been treated with only the utmost respect by the white settlers. Right?

looks like you just made your premises off-limits to thousands of australians, merse. congrats.

I think that is a bit rich coming from a colonising country. You say colonise I say invade, matter of opinion I think. If I was British I really wouldn't be acting righteous over this subject. Maybe we should all remeber how it started, with the invaders um that would be England.

Schade schokolade.

Anyway back to the original question, do the natives actually celebrate this as well? I am genuinely curious as to how it is recieved in their community. I'd assume that the majority wouldn't as it effectively glorifies the day that brought about their downfall, but I'm also aware that some were assimilated so much into mainstream Australian society and weren't as sidelined as much as others. Does this group celebrate it?

Also does the Australian govenment try to encourage events on Australia Day that reflect the country's native population?

I think saying 'Abo's' is kind of like calling a Native North American a 'redskin'

i have no idea if aboriginals celebrate aussie day, but i kind of doubt it somehow...
i'll probably be heading to belushi's in the afternoon for my fill of vb
@ chipbag - do you have a problem with what the bar is selling on aus day, or australia day itself.
i reckon it will be exactly like being at home minus the sweltering heat and bbq


from wikipedia:

Australia Day, celebrated annually on 26th January, is the official national day of Australia, commemorating the establishment of the first European settlement on the continent of Australia. The date is that of the foundation of a British penal colony at Sydney Cove on Port Jackson, New South Wales, by Captain Arthur Phillip, who was to become the first Governor.[1] Australia Day is an official public holiday in all states and territories of Australia, and has also been known as Anniversary Day or Foundation Day...

but to most aussies it's a long weekend and an excuse to get completely shit faced

merse, this might be a bit heavy-handed but this is how it works: go into a crowded bar deep in catholic belfast and say very loudly "are there any stupid fucking paddy cunts in here, I'd like to meet one." This would create a similar level of interest in your person as going into a long list of hotels in australia frequented by both blacks and whites and asking "are there any abos in here, I'd like to meet one." Belfast would be be better as the doctors may have more experience with the results of this sort of thing. In short, this is a very serious matter that you are coyly triumphalising over, as has australia day been at least since 1988, the significance of the flag and a whole bunch of other stuff. As far as australia day piss-ups are concerned there's always a few people who are ready to spew up their alcopops on their shoes, but (why do I get the feeling you are a german) what about a bavarian night? all bavarians in berlin invited. everyone has to wear lederhosen and dirndl of course, lots of hefeweizen and weisswurst and blasmusik etc etc. I don't fucking think so.

Hey all,

I'm fairly new to Berlin and was thinking about going along tomorrow for the Australia day celebration. Yes, I'm from Australia. Does anyone want to meet up ? I don't know a hell of a lot of people and it would be nice to chat to someone in non-simplified English for a night and give my bad German a rest

Cheers,

Toby

We're thinking of going - I haven't heard of anything else on. What time are you heading there?

Hey,

I dunno, maybe sometime after dinner 8:30 , 9ish... Just PM'd ya

If anyone else wants to hang out with some fun aussies let us know ?

Cheers,

.T.

See as there's no Raptors game that I can watch tonight, and the Aus Open final isn't until waaay in the AM, if I drag myself across town I may pop by.

i'm heading there around 7 i think... look out for my aussie flag stubbie holder

Why do you guys get so defensive about this issue?


As if you lot need an excuse!

Thanks for sort of answering the question, I think that's the best I'm going to get from any of you.

Merse I think you really need to read the "Bringing them Home Report" your comment to me would indicate that you don't really understand what assimulation has done to the Native Population of Australia and the loss of their culture. The Native People that were not "assimulated" or "didn't not have the black bread out of them" have not lost as much culture and have found it easier to reconnect with tribes.

To answer your question. Yes Indigenous Australia's do celebrate the day it has taken on more of a cultural meaning over the years, particularly where I come from which is predominately Native. In more recent times after the Indigenous people asked for an apology from the Howard Government for past ancestral atrocities but did not receive one it unoffically become the day where immigrant Australian's say sorry, it is not unusual to walk down the Hay Street Mall in Perth and see a sorry banner where passersby are able to sign on this day. Unfortunately none of this is organised by the Government it is organised by ordinary every day Australian's. But maybe that will change now that the Rudd government is in and he has expressed his desire to officially apologise.

What amazes me is that the British still fail to admit that they have any ancestral responsibility to what has happened to these people and many others. You can't just ignor what decades of "invade and conquer" or in British terminology "colonise and civilise" by the "British Empire" has done to this world. In Australia alone it halved the number of tribes from 500 to 250 in less than a decade. These were peaceful people with a functioning society and so where many others, they didn't need civilising, or new functioning governments installed they already had them.

I guess it wouldn't hurt for the British to say sorry either.

Finally Assimulation has made it difficult to tell black from white these day's so you just might be talking to a person with Native ties and not realise it.

Not to get into a political debate on First Nations (as they are politcally referred to back in Canada), but at what point is it legitimate to "stop apologizing", given that these events occured a few hundred years ago, your parents may be immigrants to the country, and the old treaty rights that were signed centuries ago are now being taken to court in order to get a "modern" explanation what rights said treaties grant.

Slippery slope.

"Australia apology to Aborigines"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7216873.stm

Ridiculous to apologise to the "stolen generation".

Read this: We should not be saying sorry to Aboriginies

As usual, he makes some valid points

Andrew Bolt argues that there is very limited official documentary evidence why the children were removed, so removals could have been for “legitimate� welfare reasons ie aborigines couldn’t/didn’t want to look after their children. Equally, as there is limited official documentary evidence, removals could have been for other reasons, yes? But, without any evidence as he himself acknowledges, Andrew Bolt then claims that he knows that the reasons for removals were sufficiently legitimate to make apologizing or compensation unnecessary and inappropriate. Why does he do this? He does it so that his employer can sell papers to the widest audience possible including those who believe that the aborigines have had the natural tendency to get on the piss, pull the dole and abuse their kids since well before 1788 (and unlike those readers, who believe they have overwhelmingly good instincts) ie that some races are genetically inferior, some are superior.