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Door to door religious solicitation

Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.

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Keydeck
It's 9:30 on Saturday morning and I'm out for the count, sleeping off the damage done by the previous nights excesses. Next thing the doorbell goes. Conventional wisdom would suggest that the appropriate course of action under these circumstances would be to bury your head under the pillow and ignore it. However, curiosity got the better of me so I stumbled out of bed, pulled on a dressing gown and headed for the door in a less than welcoming mood.

The middle-aged man and woman who were standing outside smiling at me benevolently whilst clutching their leaflets could only have had one purpose in mind. To save my soul and serve it up to God in heaven on a silver platter.

"Guten morgen. Mögen wir mit Ihnen für einige Minuten sprechen?", chirped the woman.
Through a mouth that felt like someone had taken a dump in it I replied, "Eh, sorry I don't speak German."

This is usually a good way to get rid of people to whom you?d rather not speak. But not this time.

The man piped up immediately, "Oh, you speak English. May we talk to you for a few minutes".

Taken aback I wasn't able to come up with a decent retort so settled for, "Em, not really, I was in bed. What do you want?".

On reflection asking a question was probably not the best approach to adopt.

Seeing his opening he went for it full throttle, "We're here to talk to you about Jesus".

"Em no thanks. It's very early for me and probably for Jesus too". Clearly my wit hadn't kicked into overdrive just yet.

Unphased he decided to go with a sympathy line, "Are you tired? You look tired. Were you working late last night?"

But enough is enough so I had to put a stop to it, "No, listen, you have a leaflet there. I'll take it and read it but I'm going back to bed now"
"Sure, but first can I just?"
"No! Goodbye"

Why do these people do it? I can understand that if you want to catch people at home then early on a Saturday morning is probably the best time. But at least bring coffee! To any Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints followers, Jehovah's Witnesses, Born Again Christians or other assorted bible bashers out there, here is what you should do. Arrive at my apartment at about 10:30am with a flask of hot coffee and a packet of Marlboro Lights. I have my own lighter so you don?t need to worry about that. Unless I happen to be in flagrante with the Brazilian women?s beach volleyball team at the time, I?ll come and listen to what you have to say. Give me a cup of coffee and a cigarette and stand there very quietly for about 5 to 10 minutes so that I can mentally adjust to standing up, daylight and communicating with other human beings. This business of just showing up at my door early in the morning grinning smugly and armed with a bunch of leaflets just isn't going to work. It?s a marketing disaster. Know your audience and adapt accordingly.

It's not just the early morning visitors that I have to deal with. I am also a very popular target for random assaults from the Hari-Krishna brigade. They seem to be able to spot me from a couple of hundred meters away. I reckon these guys have a highly evolved radar system, which is probably channeled via that little tuft of hair that they wear and amplified by the peach coloured stripes painted on their noses. 500 people between us and they will come directly towards me ignoring everybody else in their path. Am I giving off some kind of vibe that says either ?I need saving!? or ?Sucker here!?

One of my favourites, or least favourites depending on my mood, are the young guys who you will see in every country in the world. Let me paint you a picture that I think you?ll recognise. Dark trousers, white short-sleeved shirt (with nametag attached and a couple of pens in the pocket), clean-shaven & neat of hair. They normally travel in pairs and will be carrying a backpack, which presumably is packed with leaflets explaining how you can lead a good life and ensure that your soul gets a first class ticket to paradise once you shuffle off this mortal coil. Usually these guys are Americans called Brad and are on a 2 year or so jaunt around the world trying to convert as many hapless souls as possible. Sorry but blokes wandering around in uniform trying to sway people to their way of living and thinking is a bit much for me.

Someday they'll all get theirs, the bastards!!!

End Of Rant!
jordigo
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Usually these guys are Americans called Brad

in fact you will find that most of them are americans called "elder brad" despite the fact that they are hardly ever over 21

personally I would welcome jesus to my door at 10am provided he brings fresh croissants and the sunday papers. in fact, if the croissants are fresh enough I would not mind if they were brought to me by beelzebub himself (actually more likely to keep them nice and warm in winter)

not likely...

J
Malcolm Spudbury
Answer the door holding a knife and wearing a blood-stained apron. Say "Are you here for the sacrifice? You're a bit early, but come in and have a seat. I'll bring the goats out in a minute. Would you like a coffee?".
Homer J.
Adam Carolla said it best, "And another thing about cults ... have you ever noticed that they're an elaborate ruse for guys to get women?"
Hazza
I shared a cabin on a ferry with a born again Christian once. I was going to have a quiet night to recover from my nights out on the piss in Estonia. He started off speaking like a normal person and asked where I was from and what my background is. Soon, though, he's going on and on about how Jesus saved him, etc, etc. After a little while, I told him I had to meet a friend of mine at the bar - we were going for a few drinks (it was an excuse to get out of there). As I'm leaving, he says:

"Before I found Jesus, I used to drink a lot too".

I'm sorry, but there's another sure-fire way of turning me off religion.

When I got back later, I found 10 or 15 pamphlets spread all over my bed. I also have no idea why they do this. All they achieve is to piss people off.
hoddysded
Can't you just put up a sign by your front door that says "No solicitation"? It works wonders keeping them away back home...

They do it cause it says in the bible if they spread the word they will be rewarded in heaven. It's called "witnessing" if I remember correctly from my former life under the watchful eye of a fundamentalist mother.
3 Lions
I find it is usually just as quick to say that you believe in God & Jesus and they will leave you alone with your pamphlet after that.
jordigo
when I was in the US I found that some places had signs that said "no solicitors"

rather funny... I don't really like lawyers either
jeremy
My brother had no worries with Jehovahs Shitnesses because he had studied the Bible in detail. (he was not a God botherer but interested in stuff about the Holy Grail and the real Jesus Christ not the Roman Catholic marketed version) so he could pull up a chair get a cup of tea and sit down while they blathered on their shite. He used to relax and let the stuff wash over and let them realise they were on a hiding to nothing to convert him. He knew way more about the Bible than most people including the God marketing crowd. I am sure he was on JH blacklist as one house not to go to!

Good on you Bruv!

Jeremy.
Hazza
Answer the door naked. Look them up and down and ask:

'which one of you is first?'

Actually, a pretty funny thing happenend in Australia a few years ago - it was in the news, because it went to court. Some god botherers (can't remember what church) went to a group house. They were invited in and offered cake, which they ate. Little did they realise that they were eating 'Space cake'.

I think that they all got away with community service sentences - I reckon it'd be worth it.
Malcolm Spudbury
The god-botherers got community service?
michnic
The younger guys in short sleeve shirts and black ties are Mormons. They're actually encouraged to, uh, sow their oats before they have to go home and get pledged in as full fledged members. One of my ex-boyfriends used to love to invite them in, smoke a fat spliff while they were talking, pop in a couple of porn vids and then invite them to come back later and party "off the record". One time he got two takers, one of which who ended up leaving the fold and staying in our town instead of going back to Utah.
astroboy
OK, going slightly off topic, these people are only outside my door rather than trying to get in...

The scientologists have started leafleting people in front of my apartment on Leopold Str.

An alcoholic prize (assuming I get to a TT event in the near future) to the person who can come up with the best insult for these money grabbing lunatics.

Ta.
meckle
michnic - so your boyfriend was in fact saving them instead of the other way around ?? biggrin.gif
profundo
As far as insulting the Scientologists, go out and ask them for some asprin 'cause you got a headache from all their noise. They're beef is "no drugs of any kind" oh, and no surgery either. So I guess you just up and die of things like appendix trouble. Tell them you are raising money for your nephew's surgery or offer them a beer if they will just go away.
(Astro does that win the prize?)
btw. if I am accosted by mormons, I just say that if I join, I want to change my name to Barry so I can be Elder Barry.
Or better yet, Otto, so I can be called "Elder Otto". ph34r.gif
jordigo
elder ado (as in cadillac) ?
profundo
you bet. well, more like the lost city of gold. wink.gif
(sorry for the delay- been scrounging out of internet cafes
like a street urchin till my new comp. arrives at Christmas!!)
PTDude
I just had some guys knocking on my door saying they where contacting English speaking people to talk about the bible, they said they where a group that studied the bible and wanted to offer me a quiet life.

1st how the heck to they knew where I live and that I spoke english?

2nd what the heck to they mean about a quiet life?

did this sort of thing ever happened to any of you guys?
3 Lions
Not as yet, only back in the UK.

The Bibble...sounds so Monty Python!

Are you the Judean Peoples Front?

F#*K Off - We're the Peoples Front of Judea!!

biggrin.gif
grtho
When I got stopped by one of those cutie Mormons at Stachus a few weeks ao I tried to talk to him in English but they wouldn't. They have to adopt the language of where they are, even amongst themselves.

I've got one of those "happy clappy" churches just by me and they insist of singling those friggin songs every Sunday morning as I'm lying in bed going aggggggghhhh!

Perhaps I'll start a bondage and ecstasy nightclub in their friggin bedroom and see how they like it! mad.gif

No I'll walk away from that one!
jml
Hey, Jesus loves me forever...no seriously...I felt sorry for some kids trying to scrounge enough change to get some food (to share) at Heathrow. They looked tired, beat and downright pathetic. I felt really sorry for them and paid their tab - wasn't much like 10 euros. Next thing I know they're all sitting in a prayer circle in the corner thanking the Lord for providing through the goodness of strangers. I booked it out of there. Two of the kids caught up with me let me know that Jesus loves me forever and to give me some pamphlets... turns out they were off converting heathens somewhere. They kept up with me all throughout Heathrow, which I have to say was pretty impressive. Anyway, if you see a group of scroungy but nice looking kids in Heathrow wearing matching red shirts, be afraid, very afraid ph34r.gif
TexasTornado
My friend Slim is a stand up comedian that just happens to be a lesbian that studied in Utah. her favorite way to answer the door is with a beer in hand with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth as she ask "How many women can I have?"

I had a couple here about a month ago and very patiently explained to them that this place, "Earth" is a University for spirit. We come here to learn. When we "get it" we get to call Scotty, beam out and go home. What is perceived as death to humans is graduation for spirit. I told them when you leave, it's instant enlightment an the unanswered quesitons of the Universe were no more. I told them Heaven and Hell were not geographic locations but a state of consciousness and asked them if they had ever heard of my elder brother, Jesus Christ?

Perhaps it was my enthusiasm that scared them or maybe it was that fanaticall gleam in my eye. I like to think I painted a picture for them as how they must look to the rest of the world. I don't think I will see them anytime soon, they looked frightened when they ran for the stairs. I wish they would come back, was the most fun I've ever had at home on a Saturday afternoon.
SparkaHck
Ok, I nicked it off b3ta, but it's funny and topical

Have you found Jesus?
pals42
I actually learned my german as one of those mormon missionaries in Berlin. I must have missed the whole training on sewing my oats before I came home to become a real member - lol.
MünchnerKindl
Yes, it is pretty nerve-recking. My experience with them was, once you start a discussion with them you are lost. After alot of different methods and probably most importantly, when I found my own answer to the spiritual question, I got into the habit of saying, no I am not interested...I have found my own way. Then they want to know what it is. ...I would answer, I would rather not say. Thank you very much for calling and close the door.

My true feeling on the subject is, you save your soul and I'll save mine.

I noticed strangely enough once I had made up my mind about it, they never seem to bother me again. smile.gif

The Johova's have certain times when they do their tours; usually around the time, according to their teachers, when the end of the world is near and I think it must be that time again...just today I noticed they were standing on every corner. There were also some holy pictures in my post box recently. But if they have to do it and they believe in it ...fine by me. rolleyes.gif

It is almost true of difficult situations or issues I have had to look at in my life; ...once I delt with it, it doesn't come up again...on to the next issue. ... unsure.gif
BadBob
Mormans can be somewhat confusing...even to themselves.
Sin
Must be all them mother-in-laws they have.
MünchnerKindl
What!! unsure.gif another way of looking at it...

Seriously...groups of people going around knocking on peoples doors recruiting for a religious sect should really be banned!
I guess they feel they are doing the right thing by getting others to do the same...safety in numbers...!

I once visited a Christian Science meeting in Haidhausen purely out of curiosity...I was not impressed...like being caterpulted back into 18 Centuary Mid West America...they dont move on...getting stuck in other peoples dogma long long gone from this world...not facing the real world we are living in today.

But I guess one has to tolerate thoes too...afterall we are all striving for the same thing...happiness ... so whatever makes you happy do it! :-)
garibaldi
QUOTE (BadBob @ Oct 24 2007, 8:16 pm) *
Mormans can be somewhat confusing...even to themselves.

Jaysus, you're one to talk!
crusoe
Are Mormans and morans related? I think we should be told.
garibaldi
Nah, the Mormans are just humerous. The Mormons are fenatics.
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