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kitkat64
There are several police cars etc all lined up in front of our building (on Frankfurter Ring) and a couple of official looking types walking over to the construction area for the new Tram 23 line. My colleagues seem to thing they may have found a unexploded WWII bomb while digging. I'll keep you posted.

(pics courtesy of MunichMag)

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kitkat64
And the next one...

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fRe4k
This is up-to-date info from TT media with latest pics from the scene - Reporting by Journo, Kitkat64, TT Times...Whoaaaaa smile.gif (In a lighter vein)

This is the reason why 'Citizen Journalism' (Esp. Blogs) is kooL (although we have to cross-check if the info is accurate).
MunichMag
Loads of fire brigade are here now as well. I couldn't get them all in the photo - there are another 3 fire engines further along the street.

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SleeplessInMunich
Is there a new donut shop after opening up there prehaps?
kitkat64
And now our whole parking lot is blocked by fire trucks and fireman.
Ladies, today is my lucky day smile.gif
MunichMag
Looks like they're coming into our building, so your reporters may be about to be told to evacuate.
MunichMag
Apparantly the bomb will be detonated between 14.00 and 14.10, for anyone else who may be within hearing range of it.
kitkat64
OK, we've just been instructed to open the windows on that side of the building (where my office is) and leave these rooms between 2 and 2:15.

Woohooo, nothing like a little excitement into an otherwise boring day!
Owain Glyndwr
pfew. you had me worried. I thought they'd found out where i buried my wife's body.
Punchbear
How close to the UBahn/BMW showrooms is this? Further to the east along the ring?
Odenwalder
Guess they're expecting quite a boom. Must be a 500 pound'er. Enjoy the show !
kitkat64
It is in East of Ingolstadterstrasse/Leopoldstrasse, not further west where the BMW dealership is.

And it is a 10K bomb but the fireman did not say if it is American or British.
fRe4k
QUOTE (MunichMag @ Jan 10 2008, 1:40 pm) *
Apparantly the bomb will be detonated between 14.00 and 14.10

Is that gonna be detonated? or just deflated/defused?
HEM
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jan 10 2008, 1:34 pm) *
And now our whole parking lot is blocked by fire trucks and fireman. Ladies, today is my lucky day

I thought you've only been married a week or so & you are already slobbering at the thought of a few firemen?
Editor Bob
For reference, see the TT wiki page about WWII UXBs found in Munich and elsewhere in Germany.
kitkat64
Yep, 10 days. We've been together 8 years so it's OK to look!!!
Going outside now!
Allershausen
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jan 10 2008, 1:51 pm) *
the fireman did not say if it is American or British.

I don't think the British ever bombed Munich, it's too far away. (I could be wrong though, it has been known)
Punchbear
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jan 10 2008, 1:51 pm) *
It is in East of Ingolstadterstrasse/Leopoldstrasse, not further west where the BMW dealership is.

There goes Germanys emails wink.gif
Allershausen
I have to ask, why?
Punchbear
The GMX mail servers are right across the road there.
Odenwalder
A 10k bomb? From WW2? I'm pretty sure, but I could be wrong, that the B-52s dropped 500lb bombs as their largest (non-nuclear) bomb during WW2. That's a difference of 9,500lbs.
Keydeck
Possibly 10Kg?
Odenwalder
That would make more sense, but it would also negate any reasoning for opening windows a block away and evacuating buildings.
sarabyrd
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jan 10 2008, 1:57 pm) *
I don't think the British ever bombed Munich, it's too far away. (I could be wrong though, it has been known)

They bombed Dresden which I assume is even further. Not as far south but also more easterly.
So is this between Ingolstädter and the A9? Damn, Scogs used to live close by when they were doing all the construction. Not to mention that's where the junkyard used to be.
Editor Bob
GMX offices might be on Frankfurter Ring, but I doubt the mail servers are physically located there.

I think GMX is hosted by 1&1, which means the servers are probably on one of the big 1&1 data centers, either in Karlsruhe or Baden Baden.

Those server farms are fairly bomb proof too.
howdyitsjessica
any explosions yet?
Owain Glyndwr
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jan 10 2008, 1:57 pm) *
I don't think the British ever bombed Munich, it's too far away. (I could be wrong though, it has been known)

2/3 October 1943
294 Lancasters of 1, 5 and No 8 Groups and 2 B-17s - to Munich. 8 Lancasters lost, 2.7 per cent of the force. Visibility over the target was clear but the initial marking was scattered. Heavy bombing developed over the southern and south-eastern districts of Munich but later stages of the raid fell up to 15 miles back along the approach route. Most of this inaccurate bombing was carried out by No 5 Group aircraft, which were again attempting their 'time-and-distance' bombing method independently of the Pathfinder marking. The No 5 Group crews were not able to pick out the Wurmsee lake, which was the starting point for their timed run.

from the campaign diary of the RAF.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/oct43.html
Punchbear
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Jan 10 2008, 2:13 pm) *
GMX offices might be on Frankfurter Ring, but I doubt the mail servers are physically located there.

The mail servers are in Munich, Web.de mailservers in Karlsruhe and 1&1 in Montabaur. Their servers are up and down like yoyos anyways.

Edit: 1&1 is a skin for GMX editorial content, their site-hosting servers are in Montabaur, along with their mail servers. When I worked at GMX, the mail servers were located in house. I can't see why they'd go to the trouble of migrating to Montabaur.
kitkat64
OK, all the drama is over. I asked but they did not know if it was American or British or how big.
We did hear a fairly loud explosion though.

Very cool.
Allershausen
QUOTE (sarabyrd @ Jan 10 2008, 2:12 pm) *
They bombed Dresden which I assume is even further. Not as far south but also more easterly.

Doing a quick, from here to there check, on Google maps, they are both about the same distance from the south coast of Englang, so you could be right, assuming it was the British that bombed Dresden, which I think it was.
Punchbear
Yup, my man in Japan says it's just gone off.
Deccie
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jan 10 2008, 2:19 pm) *
assuming it was the British that bombed Dresden, which I think it was.

Both the British and the U.S. devestated Dresden. Although most believe it was only the British.
Moonboot
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jan 10 2008, 3:18 pm) *
OK, all the drama is over. I asked but they did not know if it was American or British or how big. We did hear a fairly loud explosion though.

never mind about the bomb, what did you think of the firemen??? I drove past there about an hour ago and saw quite a few yummies. I've stopped drooling now though rolleyes.gif
bluedave
Nobody killed then?

Hope the explosion didn't cause any clouds of smoke or anything. unsure.gif

Just saying like.
kitkat64
Well, while I was standing outside, there were lots of comments about 'well, now you know the quality of American bombs'. I held myself back and just said 'it was probably British'
Allershausen
QUOTE (bluedave @ Jan 10 2008, 2:22 pm) *
Hope the explosion didn't cause any clouds of smoke or anything.

Don't worry it's outside. wink.gif
HEM
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jan 10 2008, 1:57 pm) *
I don't think the British ever bombed Munich, it's too far away. (I could be wrong though, it has been known)

Even further from the US ph34r.gif
Allershausen
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jan 10 2008, 2:23 pm) *
Well, while I was standing outside, there were lots of comments about 'well, now you know the quality of American bombs'. I held myself back and just said 'it was probably British'

As far as I can tell from this site, the closest the British bombers got to Munich was Augsburg
Genie
Next time be sure to tell them that had they been using German quality bombs, perhaps the 1000 year Reich wouldn't have been brought to its abrupt end after 12.
miwild
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jan 10 2008, 2:43 pm) *
As far as I can tell from this site, the closest the British bombers got to Munich was Augsburg

19 April 1945

49 Lancasters of No 3 Group carried out a G-H raid on the Pasing railway yards, Munich. The bombing appeared to be concentrated. No aircraft lost.
Inflatablewoman
QUOTE (Genie @ Jan 10 2008, 2:52 pm) *
had they been using German quality bombs, perhaps the 1000 year Reich wouldn't have been brought to its abrupt end after 12.

Zing!
laurenrenee
i was leading a tour through the frauenkirche this summer and the priest decided to talk to our group personally... he told us that the british were responsible for bombing the church. not sure if that is entirely true (maybe it was both the british and americans), but quite interesting either way!
Genie
Did you tell him the fcuking Krauts were responsible for starting the fcuking war??? Did you count the exact number of churches in, say, Warsaw that they demolished into ashes??? Did you mention the tacit cooperation of the Catholic Church's establishments? Did you tell him that in your culture, a structure, no matter how important and godly it is, is never more important than a human life, not to mention 25 fcuking million ones?

What a tosser.
up-side-down
Spot the Jew.
Genie
Spot the racist.
kitkat64
Now now children - don't turn this lovely little thread about a buried bomb into a ballistic mess...
gideon
If anything was flatterened at night it was done by the Brits/French/Canadians etc. Americans bombed during the day.
just for those who may be interested...
My mum paid half a penny for the war effort to write a personal insult to hitler on bombs due to be dropped.
laurenrenee
QUOTE (Genie @ Jan 10 2008, 5:11 pm) *
Did you tell him the fcuking Krauts were responsible for starting the fcuking war???

definitely wasn't expecting such a heated response to such a simple statement. and to answer your questions, no, i didn't tell him anything other than "thanks" for sharing his story. not many people like to talk about their personal experiences during the war, especially not to strangers. so he got a big "thanks" from me and the group, rather than the "go f*** yourself" he may have received from you.
Genie
Now that I see your nationality, I seem to have misunderstood the story. I thought you were British and that he came up to you and blamed your country (and you through it) for damages done to his church during the war. Since you state you're American, what he did was even more bizarre. He was basically coming up to you to inform you that he doesn't blame the Americans for it, so you're in the clear. He blames the British. So he wasn't sharing his personal experiences with you, he was sharing his moral judgment.

Anyway that goes it seems to me quite audacious to come up and blame the British for damages he sustained in a war his country started. You don't want to get damaged by war? Don't fcuking start one. And if he happens to be one of that overwhelming minority of Germans that opposed the war, he still shouldn't come complaining to the Allied for his damages. He should complain to his compatriots for actively and passively supporting the war.
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