Advice on property locations in north Munich

I've lived in Munich for a couple of years & only really know the town centre. This year we'd like to buy a house in the suburbs somewhere in North Munich as my work frequently takes me out of Munich so I'd prefer to be near to the A8 and the airport. My partner works in the town centre so we'd like to have good S-Bahn connections too.

We've been checking Immobilienscout24 & would like advice/tips/info on areas North of Munich which you could recommend for good-value property (we have up to €400,000 to spend and want a 5-Room place) and which are also good areas to raise children.

Thanks for any info you can give.

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Well for a start you can't do both! If you want to be close to an Autobahn and be close to the airport, you need the A9.

Or A92 Stuttgart-Deggendorf. 13 minutes from Unterschleissheim to terminal 1.

What Allershausen said. But apart from that, Feldmoching/Oberschleissheim would give good Autobahn links in both directions (not taking desirability of either into account). Quick hop up the A92 to the airport, and a quick hop around the slightly less congested part of the A99 to the A8. Both are on the S1 airport line anyway.

Joking apart, I'm sure you meant A9, Freising is a nice place, easy access to the Airport, autobahn and it's on the S-bahn as well as the normal train route as well.

Sorry I should have specified, when my work takes me to Stuttgart I drive via the A8, elsewhere I fly hence the preference (if possible!) to be sort of near to both. Was thinking perhaps of Dachau or Rohrmoos? Thanks to all for their advice so far!

With Dachau or Rohrmoos, you're on the wrong Sbahn to get to the airport. I live in Unterschleissheim (OK, this little dorf sort of separate from the 'city' part of Unterschleissheim) and it is filled with single family houses and lots of young families are moving in. It is a bit cheaper than Unterschleissheim because you have to drive your car to the Ubahn station but it is wonderfully close to work (at BMW) and the airport and all the autobahns (92, 99 and 9). We looked in Dachau too but it is just so much further out (lots of small streets to get to the highways).

Hi Kitkat!

Too bad your budget isn't a bit higher as our house fits the bill. We are in Lauterbach, between the Dachau and Sulzemoos exit on the A8. We are selling our house because of a move to Chicago. Unfortunately, we are asking 598,000 for the house as it is huge and has studio apartment attached. We paid 590,000 for the house and have invested 60,000 in renovations, so we aren't really willing to drop the price much more as we will already loose what we invested so we can sell.

We belong to Bergkirchen and it is a fabulous community. My husband works in Munich on Nymphenburgerstrasse and it takes him 30 minutes to get to work, 35 to the airport, and 25 to Augsburg. I do most of my shopping in Dachau. Bergkirchen has a lovely school where my daughter is in the second grade. They are aware she is a bi-lingual child and give her a bit of extra help in German. The school here does teach English from 1st grade and the kindergartens in the community teach English in the last year of kindergarten.

My son is in an intergration kindergarten in the Sulzemoos community and is doing very well. I love where we live and that my daughter has friends in the village and nearby villages. It beats setting up playdates all over Munich!

Lauterbach is accessible to BIS. We were originally going to send our children there and had the bus route all signed up, but we decided at the last minute to go local. We are glad we did and having friends nearby for the children is super.

Have a look in the Bergkirchen/Sulzemoos area. Olching would also be a possibliity - I know there are several British natives living there. If you want to see our house, the info ID number on ImmoScout24 is 43844162.

Good luck!

Just for clarification - it's Petrolhead that is looking for a place to buy somewhere north of Munich. I already own my own house in Unterschleissheim (and I love it there!)

Sorry Kitkat...I noticed after I posted it was petrolhead. Unterschleisshaeim is also fab except I always have to wait for the train when I drive thought there...

The Feldkirchen, Trudering, Haar areas might be a good compromise solution for you. They are all conveniently located with links by S or U Bahn to the town centre and good road access as well; they are all on the inner ring which will make it less expensive to travel into town for your partner. You have good road links to the airport via the A94 or A99 and easy access to the A8 to get to Stuggart. For the airport you can take a few stops by S to Ostbahnhof or Leuchtenbergring and get directly there via the S8; so no messing about with other forms of public transport.

That covers the work side of things but with such good Autobahn links, travelling south, you can be at the nearest ski slope in less than an hour, travel eastwards for a nice weekend in the Czech Republic or travel north to the airport and the world is your oyster.

As to the future and kids it really depends, whether you want to send them to international schools or local ones. The nearest international one would be in Neuperlach but I am not too sure how easily reachable it is by public transport.

The 400k budget may be a bit tight for a five room house but I will take a look on Immobilienscout later myself to see what is available in that price bracket.

You could consider Johanneskirchen which, on the S-Bahn, is pretty much halfway between the airport and the city centre, so should suit both needs. Here is a thread on Life in Johanneskirchen.

Will you both be driving? If not, my advice would be to pick either the S1 or S8 routes and look online for info on those towns, i.e. Englschalking could be another possibility.

Not so sure I'd agree with that. OK for getting onto the A8 south to Salzburg, but a long way round the A99 to get to the A8 west to Stuttgart, including the most congested part Haar-Kirchheim-Aschheim.

Am more fond to live in N/NW Munich. At present we're in Obermenzing close to the start of the A8 which is brilliant for that reason. The airport is about half an hour away which is also good. Just we don't want to buy a long-term property around here.
My partner either takes the S-Bahn or drives to work.
We aren't too fussed about the BIS or European School, a priority for us is a nice area to bring the kids up in where they can play outside and where there are good German schools nearby.
Thanks for the tips about Dachau and surrounding area Bavarian Goddess. Dachau is also good for shopping (the industrial estate's good isn't it?)

Good shopping and lots to offer for the kids. If you are looking for local schools, I would seriously consider the Bergkirchen area. Our local school is one of the best in Bavaria and the Recktor is a very nice man who cares about children. Our Mayor is also very child oriented and I have spoken with him on several occassions (his English is very good) and he is committed to ensuring the area schools maintain a high level of schooling for the kids.

Bergkirchen school also opened a new Hort (afterschool program/daycare) that my daughter is in. They arrange for extra activities like skiing, swimming, guitar and paino lessons, etc. I'm working on them organizing a painting class. They have trained professionals to help the children with their homework - a bonus for me because my German isn't that great! Both kids are in the klangewolke music school in Dachau. Frau Wuellenweber also speaks excellent English as do most of her instructors.

There are also stables for pony riding in the area, a shooting club, garden club, and a great hair salon in our village. So, have a snoop! I love this area and am sad we have to leave it, but do not regret for an instant living in the country instead of the city. The quality of life for us and our children is great. PM me if you want to chat more or would like more advice.

Also, our realtor is a nice man who speaks good English. Perhaps you could call or e-mail him for advise on housing in your price range. He know this area very well as well as the Haimhausen area.

Bernhard Umstädter

Tel: 08133 / 44421-12
Fax: 08133 / 44421-29

umstaedter@tell-immobilien.de
www.tell-immobilien.de

Again, good luck!!

Bavarian Goddess forgot to mention the most important thing about the place: The beer at their volksfest is renown for being the cheapest in the area!

Yes, the Dachauer Volksfest Bier is certainly very well priced. We've decided to settle on the Freising/Erding area of town though!
Can anyone kindly recommend property-hunting websites aside from Immobilienscout24?

The Süddeutsche Zeitung has one of the biggest property market sections around for the Munich area

Did u consider Ismanning/Garching ?

There is a shortcut (Umleitung to A8) from Garching and u have better access to airport.

I live near to Olympiapark and drive daily to garching (A9) very conveniently. I also happen to drive Stuttgart and it is also not far. So in this way I can say I can access A9 and A8 easily and also city pretty easily.

If you are not really inclined to small places around Munich then better consider the Olympaipark area.

regards

www.planethome.de

Thanks everyone!
We've finally settled on a property in Pulling just outside Freising. We noticed the planes flying overhead; they weren't too loud though but we were wondering if long-term it is annoying. Does anyone else live out there who can advise? Also would we get interference on our SKY TV? That would NOT do!

The planes follow pretty fixed flight paths, and at Pulling you are below the flight path for the northern runway. Sometimes they might fly a bit to the north or the south of you and they'll switch between taking off and landing (usually taking off though). Whether you find it annoying depends on whether you are at home all day or not, whether you are used to noise etc. You may also find yourself more tolerant if you use the airport yourself regularly.

I'm not sure how long you're planning on living in the area, but there will be a third runway by around 2012. They're currently pretending to give a shit about what people think by holding a "consultation", but once that's complete and they've decided that being able to fly to Stuttgart rather than take the train is more important, then construction will start pretty quickly. The new runway will be to the north-east of the airport. With the flight ban over Freising supposedly remaining intact, that will mean more planes over in your direction. Something to think about.

Hi STB, thanks for all that info.
Any idea where I can find out more about all that? We'd remain in the property for about 10 years, but then likely it'll be hard to sell afterwards if there's planes all over the place there so maybe we'll have to have a re-think.

Well there will certainly be more planes once the third runway is built, which may have the effect of reducing the value of your property somewhat. Below is a map that shows the existing flightpaths (in black) and the new ones (in blue) once the new runway is built. You can download the map from here (PDF). I've marked Pulling on there with the plus-sign.

Further information is available on the MUC propaganda website.

Third runway for Munich Airport

Thanks for all that, will talk to my other half tonight. Cheers!

One more that may be of interest; poor quality but the best I could find, showing the different noise-level areas according to a particular law. The red line marks the noisiest area, which unfortunately does include Pulling. The northern-most runway is the new one.

I'm not trying to put you off moving there – millions of people are happy living on main roads, for example. You obviously just have to be sure that the noise won't bother you too much.

Thanks for all the information STB. I spoke to some residents in Pulling and they confirmed that noise levels in Summer are already bad, with the planned 3rd runway path (which was exactly above where our dream-home was to be built) the noise levels would just be awful. Plus they plan to move the 2nd runway path closer to the 3rd one!
So we've decided against Pulling!
We're exploring the possibility of buying a Grundstuck and having a house built. We've plenty of brochures from the building companies but are having difficulty finding Grundstucks on sale. Can anyone recommend websites where we could find some? Immobilienscout24 doesn't seem to have too many on offer!
Thanks, P.

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