Hard Rock Cafe is your best bet. A friend of mine worked as a hostess there for nearly a year with very minimal German ability.
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Hard Rock Cafe sucks to work for. They earn minimum salary, have no rights, and terrible hours. But if there is nothing else, you can still try it. I would try any bar, working in gastronomie you don't need a lot German.
My friend loved it!
meinestadt.de/muenchen - Jobs in English
This link might be of interest to anyone looking for a job.
The Arbeitsamt have a jobcenter which is called BIZ - Business Information Zentrum (Centre) which is also available online. If you type in the word English in “Suche� search (Keywords), it brings up jobs with text in English or with the word English in the text. If you can speak some German you could also try by putting in the word in German… written “englisch� Here you will find pages upon pages of jobs. Be careful though, job offers from Zeit Arbeit Agencies / Temping Agencies as their hourly rates can be very very low, nevertheless it may be a good stepping stone to finding a satisfying and fulfilling job.
Another tip is to call up the website of any of the big companies as most of them have their own job board where you can apply directly for a vacant position or submit your CV should a suitable position become available.
Learning by doing...
This link might be of interest to anyone looking for a job.
The Arbeitsamt have a jobcenter which is called BIZ - Business Information Zentrum (Centre) which is also available online. If you type in the word English in “Suche� search (Keywords), it brings up jobs with text in English or with the word English in the text. If you can speak some German you could also try by putting in the word in German… written “englisch� Here you will find pages upon pages of jobs. Be careful though, job offers from Zeit Arbeit Agencies / Temping Agencies as their hourly rates can be very very low, nevertheless it may be a good stepping stone to finding a satisfying and fulfilling job.
Another tip is to call up the website of any of the big companies as most of them have their own job board where you can apply directly for a vacant position or submit your CV should a suitable position become available.
Learning by doing...
Italian Alex. He hangs out at Kilian's usually during lunch he can be found reading the pink newspaper (Italian sports page) drinking a bottle of Auggie.
He is the dude people work for until they find a real job. He builds stages for concerts at the Olympic Village. I hear the pay hours are odd and the pay can take up to 6 weeks to collect. If you want more information, pop into to Kilians late afernoon.
He is the dude people work for until they find a real job. He builds stages for concerts at the Olympic Village. I hear the pay hours are odd and the pay can take up to 6 weeks to collect. If you want more information, pop into to Kilians late afernoon.
Although Alex does staging, the local crew work also involves setting up light/sound/video for the concerts that come into town. If you get in touch with Alex (PM me for his number) through him you can get to meet other crew chiefs and wind up working nearly every show that comes through munich.
Some work involves working at the Messe Halle (Exhibition halls) which involves the same kind of work.
Every crew chief has their own conditions as regards pay, and also experienced hands (and those that always arrive on time) can sometimes negotiate a better rate. Normally the chiefs pay a minimum of 5 hours - great when the job lasts half an hour at a rate of around €10 per hour. Like i said, some shitty chiefs pay less but a few pay €10.50.
Also, depending how legit they are, you need a Gewerbeschein (work licence) but some will let you work for a bit until you decide you can hack the hard work.
Alex speaks both German & English better than Italian!
Some work involves working at the Messe Halle (Exhibition halls) which involves the same kind of work.
Every crew chief has their own conditions as regards pay, and also experienced hands (and those that always arrive on time) can sometimes negotiate a better rate. Normally the chiefs pay a minimum of 5 hours - great when the job lasts half an hour at a rate of around €10 per hour. Like i said, some shitty chiefs pay less but a few pay €10.50.
Also, depending how legit they are, you need a Gewerbeschein (work licence) but some will let you work for a bit until you decide you can hack the hard work.
Alex speaks both German & English better than Italian!
If you really try all the Irish and Aussie bars then you should get lucky eventually. Just stay motivated! Also, a bit of German speaking ability always helps.
Did you try Günther Murphys? They're always looking for good staff. Helps if you have bar experience.
Try the Hard Rock Cafe... or lokal supermarkets, look for the signs "Aushilfe".
Its just a suggestion but if you're a qualified carpenter and can fit kitchens then how about offering services as a kitchen installer/fitter?
Its quite normal over here for apartments to come without a kitchen or people take them when they move apartments. Quite a few people buy kitchens from Ikea because they're reasonably priced but need someone to install it.
Just a thought !!!
Its quite normal over here for apartments to come without a kitchen or people take them when they move apartments. Quite a few people buy kitchens from Ikea because they're reasonably priced but need someone to install it.
Just a thought !!!
That's a good idea. When I first moved here I bought a kitchen, and IKEA wanted over 500 EUR to install it. I got a carpenter a friend introduced me to to do it for 200 EUR.
Allbecon
try this link if looking for a job, I know the woman who runs this agency. Apparently they have the best pay in Munich, too. And they have jobs in international companies. I saw a couple of ads here asking for native english speakers.
JB
try this link if looking for a job, I know the woman who runs this agency. Apparently they have the best pay in Munich, too. And they have jobs in international companies. I saw a couple of ads here asking for native english speakers.
JB
hello phil phox, would you mind giving me alexs phone number? thanks derek
Re Alex the Italian.
He's an idiot and a thug, only pays E10 per hour, always rounds everything down AND when he finally decides to pay you, he sends a text message to say "i will be in my local pub in 2 hours' time, if you want your money you'd better be there" so you have to drop everything and dash to the pub to be met with abuse if you're a second late and never as much money as you expected.
He treats people badly and still owes someone I know money from over a year ago.
Unless you are really desperate for money, do NOT work for him. Or work for him and then talk to the other guys who might have numbers of other people. Mickey is good, but you need a Gewerbeschein to work for him.
All the work for the crew chiefs is unsociable, lots of very early mornings and very late nights, with no overtime paid and often no food or drink provided. It's a good place to start, but nothing that should ever be considered permanent, or you would go completely mad.
He's an idiot and a thug, only pays E10 per hour, always rounds everything down AND when he finally decides to pay you, he sends a text message to say "i will be in my local pub in 2 hours' time, if you want your money you'd better be there" so you have to drop everything and dash to the pub to be met with abuse if you're a second late and never as much money as you expected.
He treats people badly and still owes someone I know money from over a year ago.
Unless you are really desperate for money, do NOT work for him. Or work for him and then talk to the other guys who might have numbers of other people. Mickey is good, but you need a Gewerbeschein to work for him.
All the work for the crew chiefs is unsociable, lots of very early mornings and very late nights, with no overtime paid and often no food or drink provided. It's a good place to start, but nothing that should ever be considered permanent, or you would go completely mad.
hello phil phox, would you mind giving me alexs phone number? Thanx - Olli
mr teresa green should name the person that hasn't been
paid by italian alex and should come to meet him or face him. and not hide behind stupid nicknames. understand me hector?
paid by italian alex and should come to meet him or face him. and not hide behind stupid nicknames. understand me hector?
the airport has its own arbeitsampt its in the mac i think. you can gernerally find good paying jobs there. plus its all unionized so no worries about dealing with people paying you in a bar or such forth, and overtime and night/holiday pay are in there.
Thats a great tip Iain, cheers.
what if you are non eu and dont have a work permit? my visa says i am only allowed to work 90 days per year, and only on weekends or holidays. is there any way around this?
Doesn't sound like it; if your visa tells you something then that's probably what you have to do. But this has probably come up before if you have a look through here.
Small restaurants and bars often offer under the table work. They will hire half their staff legitimately and the other half under the table to save money. Which also means you don't pay tax on your earnings.
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN APPLEY TO HARD ROCK BEFORE MOVING OVER TO MUNICH.???
Have a look on their website for job openings and contact information.
We always have jobs for promoters (handing out flyers) and poster-hangers.
Working conditions are extremely flexible.
The flyer distribution usually takes place at night.
If you're new to munich and/or looking for some quick cash, please get in touch at
hugh at flyerpak dot com, or PM me!
An interest in Nightlife would help!
thanks
ps you don't need to speak German.
Working conditions are extremely flexible.
The flyer distribution usually takes place at night.
If you're new to munich and/or looking for some quick cash, please get in touch at
hugh at flyerpak dot com, or PM me!
An interest in Nightlife would help!
thanks
ps you don't need to speak German.
Hard Rock is the worst place to work for try others...
I started off working as a stage hand when i first came over, and im still doing it 3 years later. its completely possible to start off with no german, but you should really really learn. its much more fun if you can shoot the shit while you work.
i work primarily for an English Booker who pays 10,50 euro an hour for Stage Hands, and he doesnt fuck around when it comes to payment. usually within a week or two. Concert money is paid as soon as you send the invoice. No picking it up in bars, its transferred to your bank account.
Things to think about if youre interested in working as a Stage Hand.
1. Register and get yourself a Gewerbeschein.
This document identifies you as Self Employed. You are free to work for anyone you want with out any binding ties to one particular company. On the down side, you need to look after your own tax and are uneligable for social welfare etc. if you dont work, you dont get any money. When registering, put everything you can imagine yourself doing down. Ie Stage Hand, Ton Technik, Licht Technik, Bühne Arbeit etc. NO gewerbeschein, NO work.
You also need your own health insurance and HIGHLY recommended is Gewerbliche Haftversicherung (Liability insurance) so that if you do fuck up and break someone/something, youre not going to be paying it off for the rest of your life.
2. Stay Sober and Be Reliable.
Yeah its rock and roll, but this is not a job (anymore) for people who turn up drunk/stoned/late. Your first few jobs will be as part of a big crew. if youre late, or you fuck around you will not get called again. also bear in mind the people you work with work for other crews in all sorts of areas (other concerts, Messebau, Steel Stages etc). if you do a good job, youll get recommended to other crew chiefs and youll get enough work that you can live from it. if you dont, youll be working for 3 days a month, if at all. We dont like working with people who arent safe. People get hurt, equipment gets broken, and our reputation suffers as a result.
3. Get the right gear.
Ok, i know. when you start off doing this you dont know if its going to work out, so its hard to justify shelling out cash for equipment. But very important are work boots. Steel capped shoes are a must. Hiking boots/docs with caps are fine.
Toolwise, a decent folding knife, pliers and an Ajustable Spanner will always come in handy and wont set you back a fortune.
Once you start getting work, a leatherman or swisstool, a gerust hammer and a rachet (19/22) are essential buys.
If you work for my crew, helmets will be issued when needed, but its always good to have your own. for stadium and outdoor work you need waterproof jacket and trousers, a hat for when its HOT, and sun cream. in olympiapark, a lightning conductor is not a bad idea
4. Get a Steuerberater.
Whats the point of working hard if the tax office is just going to play around with you and take all your cash. you might think you can handle your tax returns at the beggining, but the tax office is amazing at turning around 2 years later and asking for all your records from way back when and then working out that you owe them 30000000000000 euro. dont take the risk. get a profi to cover your ass.
5. Learn Fast..
Keep an eye on the other guys who have more experience and try to learn as much as you can as quickly as possible. if youre not sure how to do something, ask. do not under any circumstances let something be flown (ie hung on trussing and driven up) if youre not 100% certain its properly hung and safety-ed. Youll spend a lot of time in trucks, and there are rules. if youre told to get out of the truck, get out. if youre not pushing something up or down the ramp, get out of the way.
I suppose the best thing to say is dont be naive. its not the glamourous life you may think (ha ha ha). its hard work, its dirty work, the hours are long, its nearly always open end (ie you dont know when youre going to be finished) but if youre the kind of person who likes to work hard and get the job done no matter what, then it might be the right way to go. oh and the bands are nearly always shite. i fucking love it...
ha ha ha "overtime"...having a laugh? PUSSIES!!
if youre staying in munich long enough to make it worth your while getting the paperwork etc, you can PM me and we can see if i can get you some work.
berny
i work primarily for an English Booker who pays 10,50 euro an hour for Stage Hands, and he doesnt fuck around when it comes to payment. usually within a week or two. Concert money is paid as soon as you send the invoice. No picking it up in bars, its transferred to your bank account.
Things to think about if youre interested in working as a Stage Hand.
1. Register and get yourself a Gewerbeschein.
This document identifies you as Self Employed. You are free to work for anyone you want with out any binding ties to one particular company. On the down side, you need to look after your own tax and are uneligable for social welfare etc. if you dont work, you dont get any money. When registering, put everything you can imagine yourself doing down. Ie Stage Hand, Ton Technik, Licht Technik, Bühne Arbeit etc. NO gewerbeschein, NO work.
You also need your own health insurance and HIGHLY recommended is Gewerbliche Haftversicherung (Liability insurance) so that if you do fuck up and break someone/something, youre not going to be paying it off for the rest of your life.
2. Stay Sober and Be Reliable.
Yeah its rock and roll, but this is not a job (anymore) for people who turn up drunk/stoned/late. Your first few jobs will be as part of a big crew. if youre late, or you fuck around you will not get called again. also bear in mind the people you work with work for other crews in all sorts of areas (other concerts, Messebau, Steel Stages etc). if you do a good job, youll get recommended to other crew chiefs and youll get enough work that you can live from it. if you dont, youll be working for 3 days a month, if at all. We dont like working with people who arent safe. People get hurt, equipment gets broken, and our reputation suffers as a result.
3. Get the right gear.
Ok, i know. when you start off doing this you dont know if its going to work out, so its hard to justify shelling out cash for equipment. But very important are work boots. Steel capped shoes are a must. Hiking boots/docs with caps are fine.
Toolwise, a decent folding knife, pliers and an Ajustable Spanner will always come in handy and wont set you back a fortune.
Once you start getting work, a leatherman or swisstool, a gerust hammer and a rachet (19/22) are essential buys.
If you work for my crew, helmets will be issued when needed, but its always good to have your own. for stadium and outdoor work you need waterproof jacket and trousers, a hat for when its HOT, and sun cream. in olympiapark, a lightning conductor is not a bad idea
4. Get a Steuerberater.
Whats the point of working hard if the tax office is just going to play around with you and take all your cash. you might think you can handle your tax returns at the beggining, but the tax office is amazing at turning around 2 years later and asking for all your records from way back when and then working out that you owe them 30000000000000 euro. dont take the risk. get a profi to cover your ass.
5. Learn Fast..
Keep an eye on the other guys who have more experience and try to learn as much as you can as quickly as possible. if youre not sure how to do something, ask. do not under any circumstances let something be flown (ie hung on trussing and driven up) if youre not 100% certain its properly hung and safety-ed. Youll spend a lot of time in trucks, and there are rules. if youre told to get out of the truck, get out. if youre not pushing something up or down the ramp, get out of the way.
I suppose the best thing to say is dont be naive. its not the glamourous life you may think (ha ha ha). its hard work, its dirty work, the hours are long, its nearly always open end (ie you dont know when youre going to be finished) but if youre the kind of person who likes to work hard and get the job done no matter what, then it might be the right way to go. oh and the bands are nearly always shite. i fucking love it...
ha ha ha "overtime"...having a laugh? PUSSIES!!
if youre staying in munich long enough to make it worth your while getting the paperwork etc, you can PM me and we can see if i can get you some work.
berny
I have been trying to track down Italian Alex. Tried Kilians to no avail. Any ideas? I have tried selling some non-essential organs but that does not cover the bar bill and comes nowhere near getting the rent sorted. Or does anyone know of any other crews right now looking for a selfemployed geezer with steelie capped boots who wants to get some hours down? F*ck it, I will make the tea and half-time scones if If I have to
hi. I have been hearing from people lately that factory jobs in germany pays better than some low level office work... I finished college years ago and have practically no useful skills the employers out there seem to be looking for in this county. and my german is bad (finished the 600 hours integration course ) I am currently going to a school in switzerland that requires me to be in switzerland 3 weeks of the year, and, i need to make money to be able to pay for it, as well as to support myself... i am legally allowed to work as much as i want.
does anyone knows if it is true? (that factory jobs are pretty well paid?) is it better than working for some slow restaurant or bar? where should i look to find factory jobs in/around münchen?
any help greatly appreciated,
thanks,
potato
) I am currently going to a school in switzerland that requires me to be in switzerland 3 weeks of the year, and, i need to make money to be able to pay for it, as well as to support myself... i am legally allowed to work as much as i want. does anyone knows if it is true? (that factory jobs are pretty well paid?) is it better than working for some slow restaurant or bar? where should i look to find factory jobs in/around münchen?
any help greatly appreciated,
thanks,
potato
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