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Ways in which non-EU citizens can take residence

Full details on right of residence (as of 2005)

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chrissy2u
Hey all,

Just thought this link would be helpful in regards visas and permits:

http://www.berlin.de/imperia/md/content/se...ber/zuwg_en.pdf
chrissy2u
Current appears dead. This link works.

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:prJtg...t=clnk&cd=4
FastPaully
Thanks Chrissy2u,

Very handy document. Is this the document they are using now, do you know? I'm assuming it's current, but thought I'd double check. smile.gif

In particular, worthy of note to my personal situation is the statement:

"An employed person works under the instructions of someone else and is part and parcel of the organisational task force of the person who gives the orders".

I'm asking the auslanderbehorde and the arbeitsamt if I can work for an agency or personnel company, with an employment contract upto Dec 2009... Based on this statement above, it sounds like I'd have to work for an employer direct. It seems a bit of a grey area... The agency does have it's own offices and takes in work to do in house, as well as placing people in the offices of their clients.

I'm Australian and I know the rules are different for non-EU people. A few UK people are working through agencies, but for Aussies, I'm not sure of the situation. Any thoughts?

Thanks again for the info.

EDIT : "Normally the basic rule applies: if you are an employee, you do not work freelance" Since I wouldn't be a freelance or writing invoices, would this mean I get around this potential issue? hmmmm..
Conquistador
What you are talking about with that agency is temporary work, which can be up to two years in duration. Non-EU citizens cannot do temporary work in Germany.
FastPaully
Ok, so this is temporary work then, is it?
The work is with a contract and in at only one clients office, so I didn't really think of it as temporary...
If this is the case, then it's a no go for me... Huh, shite! sad.gif
Conquistador
If you want to be sure whether or not it is a temporary position, ask them. I am sure the answer will be "yes".
chrissy2u
QUOTE (chrissy2u @ Dec 13 2007, 8:25 am) *

Thanks Chrissy2u,

Very handy document. Is this the document they are using now, do you know? I'm assuming it's current, but thought I'd double check.

QUOTE (chrissy2u @ Dec 13 2007, 8:25 am) *

@ Fastpauly
Your welcome. As far as I know, these are the latest changes. However, keep in mind; some or all requirements need to be met in each scenario it is up to the discretion of your caseworker. And/or his supervisor.
CABH
QUOTE (Conquistador @ Dec 13 2007, 2:46 pm) *
What you are talking about with that agency is temporary work, which can be up to two years in duration. Non-EU citizens cannot do temporary work in Germany.

But it sounds like you, Fastpaully, have a signed contract with a personnel company valid until 2009, and are working at one location.

I would give it a try. :-) Your situation sounds positive.

Without a work contract, sure, itinerant temporary work is illegal for Non-EU nationals. But depending on the contract, your situation could be very positive.

Good luck,
CA
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