Germans and the '66 World Cup

So why do the Germans keep banging on about that glorious goal by Geoff Hurst 'not being a goal' as if it's some major thing? Don't they realise that even if it didn't go over, we still would have spanked them 3-2? And the dirty sauerkraut-suckers stole the match ball.

Uh, isn't it the English who keep going on about it? I'm not sure I've ever heard a German mention this subject. They've had plenty of successes since then to distract them.

Seen it from both sides and it's time to let it go.

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PS: WAR!.!.!.!.!

1999 is the new 1966 dintcha know? (at least in Munich). No disputing them goals.

Lovely Job Jeckel

Maradona is different. He cheated.
Hurst didn't know whether it was over the line or not. The linesman made a bad call, but nobody cheated.

STB the Germans I know who are interested in football DO go on about it. But it's not necessarily true that we'd have won 3-2 anyway as that goal WAS to take the lead 3-2, who knows how much differently West Germany would have defended the attack that led to the last goal had it been still 2-2.

Hey triumph bob,

this is your wrong perception! We Germans do not care about '66 at all! In fact, we couldn't care less.

Let's look forward to the EURO next year (although i am not interested in football, but chess).

No, me neither, in fact I hate football. But a few times now, I've had Germans start on at me about the ball not going over the line. More of a rugby fan myself and let's face it, Jerry isn't likely to beat us at that now, is he?!

But the US might. We are the reigning Olympic Champions you know.

Rugby? The game with the flat ball? Isn't it called American Football? I have seen this once, but Rugby? Crazy Engländers

Or indeed if Hitler had not changed his tactics and stopped bombing aerodromes...

American "Football" doesn't qualify as a game, let alone a sport. Things must actually happen in games & sport.

No. Rugby isn't American Football.

American Football involves motorbikes (eventually), lots of huddles and cuddles, eye make-up and pfaffin' about. The whole point of the game of rugby is so that rich toffs can snigger in the grandstands while a maniacal bunch of hooligans beat seven bells of shit out of each other on a field. Hey! It's a sport. The whole point of American Football, barring the motorbikes ever turning up, is when one of the dancing girls lifts her leg high enough and her panties slip to one side. FACT!

Because they LOST. Germans are the worst losers on the planet.

You see it mentioned on German TV every time they play England, usually sounding a little ticked off that the linesman could make such an 'obvious' error that clearly prevented Germany from winning, so it's not just the English that won't drop it.

I'm surprised Germans are bothered about it, with the success they've had, but clearly many are, otherwise TV wouldn't mention it, and some seem as equally vitriolic as some of us English about it.

You should suit up Timmeh and play a few quarters. That is if you last that long.

Why on earth would I want to play a *ahem* game which I find exceptionally boring? I dunno if I could stay awake through all the exciting action American Football serves up. It explains why the half time shows are so extravagant, loud and over the top...to wake the fucking viewers up after hours of watching these "athletes" standing around.

Absolutely correct. But we can afford it. We are bad loosers, so we simply abolished loosing. You should give that a try. Maybe it will be less than 41 years then...

We can't forget it because the old Recken Uwe Seeler, German Ehrenspielführer, the Kaiser and Wolfgang Overath were playing. Forever heroes. And the enemy was obviously because we were playing England.

Whenever it is mentioned just remind them that the Russian linesman was asked on his death bed whether he acknowledged that the ball wasn't over the line.

He gave a one word answer.

"Stalingrad".

Didn't know that the linesmen acknowledged that he wasn't neutral due to Adi's european tour?!

As compared to soccer...where only 2-3 goals are scored per game!?

Now that is hilarious...thanks, timmy, I needed that laugh!

ROFLMFAO

MH75

I take it this abolition occurred post 1945.

http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000980.php

And numerous other locations if you Google Russian, Linesman and Stalingrad. Sort of urban myth but I remember numerous articles in newspapers at the time of his death.

Olala Yes, there is a correlation between less ambitious plans and loosing less frequently.
As you mentioned the other competition: if it had only been the British pre 1945 ManU could have become Deutscher Meister 1941 instead of Rapid Wien.

Well, it's just a simple and undisputable fact that if it weren't for bad luck, poor refereeing, the opponent cheating or being excluded (in 1950) Germany would have won every single World Cup and European Championship. The 1966 "goal" incident is just one of the best pieces of evidence for this. Additionally I think Germans occasionally mention this incident for reasons of politeness as it gives the English an opportunity to indulge themselves in some of imagined football success.

It's called football, and I agree, it's a girlie game too and chock full of fake dives and drama more suitable for the day time soaps than the sport channel.

But even this game, which I find as exciting as watching paint dry, has more action than poofie American Football.

show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser

OK, Timmy...there is NO contact in soccer and they still try and flop around on the ground like they are being brutilized as do REAL FOOTBALL players who are actually HIT and KNOCKED to the ground. You've gotten your girlie games confused, my friend...as well as the action aspect. Running around and flopping on the ground and looking for the ref to yellow card someone is NOT action. Yeah...soccer has gotten boring cornered!

I played football for more than ten years...there is REAL contact there. How long have you played American football to base your comments of fake dives and unreal drama?

But, thanks for more laughs though, timmy...you are a funny dude!

MH75

Mate, learn how to read. I don't like football (what you call soccer) but it has ten times the action of American Football. Get it that time?
When those pansies in your AFL play without their girlie tights and pads, and they play more than 30 seconds at a time, then it may gain a bit of respect from the rest of the world.

Be fair on him. He's probably never heard of the sport played in the four corners of the globe known as Rugby Football.

The Super Bowl is watched by far more people around the world than the RWC. That pretty much tells you the score.

For the ads Eurovol, it's the only action. Everyone knows that.

Wrong answer. Its for the Cheerleaders. I thought everyone knew that. Sheesh, what to do with these youngsters these days.

And for when the spotty little male singer shows us the female singer's tit. Ah! Makes it all worthwhile, dunnit?

It would if that tit weren't bought and paid for (and pretty much disgusting to boot). Knock off twenty years and make it real and I doubt so many would have complained.

Mate, why don't you learn to read and ANSWER the question...how long have you played football to judge it as a pansie sport? I am not digging on rugby because it is a pretty brutal sport, but you are talking out of your arse if you keep saying that football is pansie. You answer with your experience and we can discuss it further. Besides, we're not looking for your or anyone's elses respect when it comes to our American sports...that where you're mistaken.

Running around for an hour straight doesn't make action...

Hold on there, chief...have I made any disparaging remarks about rugby? No, I've only responded to people who are knocking American football. The funny thing is that the remarks are coming from what are probably europeans...that strange bunch that wants to claim open-mindedness and always say how Americans are so self-centered. Kinda ruins that argument, huh?

I think rugby is a good game, but UNTIL you have put on the pads and played American football, you're opinions on it being a pansie sport are fairly unfounded and the accusations are quite ludicrious.

MH75

Actually, until you've taken OFF the helmets (FFS), pads, gloves, protectors and extra pads, then put on shorts, a shirt, a pair of socks and some boots with 1/4" studs on the bottom and played the only real mans game, rugby, your pansie opinions are irrelevant.

Ahhh, another open minded european joins the debate. See, if you were not to ignorant to realize how stupid that statement was, it would be funny. You're saying that if I agree that rugby is a good sport and very difficult and hard hitting, despite having never played it, yet only expect the same from people who obviously have NO idea what they are basing their opinions on because their opinions are unfounded and without basis and that my opinion is irrelevent because I've never played rugby...then you are an idiot.

Have you ever played AMerican football? If not, then you don't have much to base your opinion on, huh?

Or are you too thick to see that?

MH75

Dude,

You're in Europe now and are gonna have to grasp the fact that when Europeans talk about football, you're gonna have to translate it (to yourself, quietly in your head) as soccer. Timmeh was saying that soccer is a poofs game where all the little girls roll on the floor pretending to be in agony because one of the big nasty men from the other team looked at them in a particularly vicious way. He's right. Leave him alone. American Football is, I'm sure, played by noble athletes at the peak of their physical careers who wouldn't even know how to spell steroid, let alone take them constantly. I will always remember, with great fondness, that fine sportsman William 'the fridge' Perry. Athleticism personified.

Actually mate, Timmeh is 0% European. He comes from a land upside down.

I don't have to play a sport to judge it. I don't race F1 cars, but enjoy what it offers. I used to play football, enjoy the sport to play but find it boring to watch. American football, never played it, find it more than boring to watch, because there is no action.
I don't have to play lawn bowls or tiddlywinks to those as pansie sports either.

But it certainly has more action than AFL with nothing but hours of standing around

Actually our little empire lasted around 300 years; the Germans had 3 attempts and still failed - that's why they're still such a bunch of chippy bastards today. And if we're gonna talk about help from the American's let's talk about the late 20th century alleged German 'economic miracle' that was actually bankrolled by the USA as the main runway of Airstrip One, whilst the UK was not only financially crippled by the war but also, rather than being bailed out financially as the Germans were, was still repaying lend lease up until December last year.

Stick that in you boot and jack it.

(No sweeping generalisations here; Oh no siree.)

Dude, I am not in Europe, I am in America. I just find it rather humorous that some of the "open-minded" people here are bashing something which they have no idea about. You are too by making those childish remarks insinuating that every athlete takes steroids...remember who had the market cornered on that back in the 70's and early 80's now don't you...the eastern bloc INCLUDING former East Germany. So no doubt, if you're in Europe, you would know what you're talking about...

MH75

Oh, so you have NOTHING to base your idiotic opinion on, simply that you are some sort of enlightened one...wow, we should all bow to your knowledge and insight. How could I have been so mistaken!!

You've proven that you have NOTHING to base your opinion on, thanks for admitting that. You are therefore, not a credible source for anything to do with American football, other that the fact that you obviously don't like it and therefore have a skewed version of what you think transpires in a game. Thanks for clearing that up, we are done here...

MH75

Does one have to have knowledge of a sport to have an opinion on it? Grow a fucking brain.

Since you have no business being on this forum in the first place, I for one certainly hope you "are done here".

Please keep your word, OK?

Who was the generous benefactor who "financially bailed out" the Germans ?

Read my post