MonksTown
Dec 3 2007, 7:29 pm
Dunno if I have unwittinglz downloaded some bloodz thing that has made mz kezboard all funnz or if I have hit some button bz mistake.
How can I get it back to German stzle?
Cheers
Keydeck
Dec 3 2007, 7:35 pm
In the system tray there should be an icon which allows you to switch the language.
Weird changes in keyboard language settings ... found using the Search function...but you knew that already
MonksTown
Dec 3 2007, 7:39 pm
Oh I just turned it on and off and it seems to be working now! Hooray! I 'ave me
leitkultur back , jahwohl!
BadDoggie
Dec 3 2007, 8:20 pm
Keyboard language toggle is left alt + left shift which is how it happens accidentally all the time.
woof.
Genie
Dec 3 2007, 8:48 pm
Well, if we're on keyboards going gazoom, here's a tougher one:
I undesrand Mr. Gates and his army of microserfs decided that we all need to have the input locale app-specific. Great. Now what happens (on about 3 different computers) is that when I alt-tab between different apps, they change their input locale randomly. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, it's really annoying.
Actually it's more than really annoying because one of the apps I use for my work hangs each time I accidentally type Hebrew into it. Even if I don't execute anything. I have to stop the process from the Task Manager, do not pass Go, do not collect $200. The app wouldn't be on Hebrew in the first place (otherwise it would have hanged), and no, I'm not accidentally pressing alt-shift while I press alt-tab. What I did as a workaround is to disable Hebrew on that computer, but it's not an idea solution obviously.
Rescue me? Does anyone know how to disable this app-specific BS thing?
Genie
Dec 4 2007, 10:02 pm
Nobody? Aw, comon!!!
Wheel
Dec 4 2007, 10:04 pm
Disable the keyboard switching hotkeys? I normally do, along with the stupid beep-after-holding-down-the-shift-key thingy.
You're going to ask me how to do it now aren't you?
Genie
Dec 4 2007, 10:07 pm
I might as well disable the keyboard. I'm talking about solutions that keep the baby, if you know what I mean. Stupid-beep thing sounds good, though I've never run in to trouble with it, and thanks for the expressing the trust you have in my kung-fu.
Wheel
Dec 4 2007, 10:11 pm
In Windows 2000
Start>Settings>Control Panel>Keyboard>Input Locales>Change Key Sequence. Remove the tick from the 'Enable Key Sequence' box. Do it for every keyboard layout with a shortcut.
You can still switch between keyboard layouts by clicking on the flag in the Taskbar, assuming you leave it on.
If it still happens after that you have a possible hardware problem or a software incompatibility.
Stupid beep thingy is
Start>Settings>Control Panel>Accessibility Options>Keyboard. I turn them all off because I find them annoying.
Genie
Dec 4 2007, 10:22 pm
I'm on XP and all the key sequences are disabled (by default methinks, I never put them there myself). I don't think it's a hardware problem because it happens on 3 different machines. Software compatibility - probably the issue, yeah. I think that incompatibility goes by the name of Windows XP.
Thanks for the help, anyways.
BadDoggie
Dec 4 2007, 10:44 pm
See the following for a full explanation:
http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2005/02/24/379466.aspxhttp://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2007...15/5461947.aspxMichael Kaplan works in Microsoft's I18N department and deals with all sorts of language- and Unicode-related issues in his blog.
woof.
Genie
Dec 4 2007, 11:03 pm
Right, thanks for the links BD. What the guy is basically saying is that when using alt-shift-tab to cycle backwards through the apps, you sometimes lift the tab before you lift the shift, which the OS interprets as alt-shift.
Curiously enough, I never encounter that scenario because I never use alt-shift-tab to cycle backwards. I don't know, it's just something I've never picked up and I would sometimes press alt-(27xshift) and not remember I could have gone backwards. So I don't think this is the solution. I genuinely think this is some OS fault when you have more than 2 languages installed.
Wheel
Dec 4 2007, 11:09 pm
The keyboard setting is thread-specific, not just app-specific, according to
this article. Eek! No wonder it's confusing.
Genie
Dec 4 2007, 11:30 pm
OK, I confess. BD was probably right with that link. I tried to reconstruct the thing, and it turns out when I do press alt-(27xtab), and I overshoot, I go back by pressing alt-shift-tab. I tried to do it slowly and reconstructed the language switch. This is probably it then. So thanks, I guess this is the solution.
Problem now - it seems like this will happen every time I do things this way if I'm typing too fast, and the only other option for changing language is left ctrl-shift, but I use that for cycling documents within an app.

Looks like I'll have to leave it as is...
Wheel
Dec 4 2007, 11:43 pm
Alt/Ctrl + Left Shift is the shortcut for the default language IIRC. For secondary languages you can specify Alt/Ctrl + Shift + Number. Maybe specify a language input you don't use much as the default (US-Dvorak or something), turn off the shortcut for it and use the shortcuts with the numeric keys for the other languages.
bluedave
Dec 4 2007, 11:46 pm
Maybe i have had too much to drink tonight but i read ' Ms Keydeck has gone all English '
koorosh
Dec 4 2007, 11:49 pm
Can one change the keyboard layout easily in Mac as well ? Are any shortcuts available?
Thanks
Wheel
Dec 4 2007, 11:53 pm
Yes. Apple Menu>System Preferences>International. Put a tick in the 'Show input menu in menu bar' to get a flag you can click on. That's also where you can specify hotkeys - click so a language family has a tick in the list and the shortcut box ungreys and they can be set.
MonksTown
Dec 5 2007, 1:03 am
JAZSUS!

Had a talk with a bloke at work todaz who is up on that kind of shiyyle.
If zou work in one language in one application but think in another in another application, it will change languages and kezboards and whatever
depending on how the sun is shining in out of Bill gates arse apparentlz.
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