"Pute" versus "Truthahn" for Thanksgiving turkey

Hello everybody, I searched for the answer but I can't find it.

I want to make Turkey for Thanksgiving this year, and I found a frozen Pute at Real. But my German family says that's not the same as Truthahn? I just thought one was male and one female? Can anybody shed some light for me. I only want to cook something 6 or 7 kilo anyway, we are only five people.

6 or 7 kilos??? For 5 people? You must be kidding, very fond of leftovers or frightfully unaware of how kilograms vs pounds work. Plan on around 500g per person to get the right size.

As for which one to eat, I couldn't say which would be the right one. I'd just get what looks good.

Truthenne or Pute is female ... Truthahn or Puter is male

I long wondered what the difference was... Thanks!
Now, which is tastier?

Get the young pute. Females have better breasts and the young ones don't droop as much.

fixed it for you.

Pute is the term in the north, Truthahn is the term in the south. That's the only difference.

If we were in a Spanish speaking country, then yes that would be the way to go.

PS: Anybody seen any yams lately at a normal market like Tengelmann, Lidl, Netto, etc...?

Pute/r does not taste anything like a Turkey!! I'll have turkey any time but Pute/r, no thank you! Bleah!

zimmer..pute is turkey

It is all in how you cook it. A rose is a rose by any other name, but if you dry it out in the oven then it won't smell the same.

There's no difference between Pute or Truthahn. It's just another word.
7 Kgs for 5 ppl ? Wow
Can they really eat so much ?!?

In my family growing up, that would amount to about one day of leftover turkey for sandwiches.

I read that you should count on 1.5 lbs (approx 750g) per person...

Leftovers are half the point of thanksgiving.

Not in the supermarket but try the Indian shops - saw them there (Augustenstr. , just near U-Bahn Theresienstr.) the other day. Plenty of other shops all over town though.

Yes, yes I wrote wrong, ten people are coming. I thougt 6 or 7 would be okay. But I ordered Pute at 5.5 kilos today, I hope that works out. :-) Thanks for the help! My German family still doesn't beleive me though.

Sh*t are you sure! I have just persuaded my hb that we needed an 18lb turkey for 8 people ..Anyone want to come to Heidelberg for dinner tomorrow

leky, I would, maybe next year, but this year I am not in HD. If you have too many leftovers, maybe invite some more friends, or give some to your neighbors (if you like them).

If you read it en français it doesn't even need fixing.

I mean 'believe' me...just noticed

What don't they believe? Just curious.

Read.

They don't believe that Pute can be eaten for Thanksgiving. They say it's completely different than Truthahn and we eat Truthahn for Thanksgiving. I mena, they've never had Thanksgiving before, but it's amazing that they are Turkey experts. But they will be eating Pute for THanksgiving this year and they can get over it.

Well, considering all the Gastarbeiter, not that amazing is it?

According to German Wikipedia, Pute is a "Haustruthuhn" and form part of the same species as the regular "Truthuhn" (turkey), however nowadays in the States Haustruthuhn is what is usually served on Thanksgiving, so according to the article it is actually Puter that is served on Thanksgiving in the States. So then, while Truthuhn and Pute are not the same, though very similar, the same is actually being served in the States as here.

Edit: And by here I mean Germany of course. Disregard the fact that I am not actually "here".

The wikipedia article http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pute actually forwards to the page for Haustruthuhn. To me, that means they're the same. As has been stated above several times.

The Truthuhn without the "Haus" in front of it is then technically a wild turkey, not domesticated. But I'd venture that nobody means a wild turkey when they're talking about buying a Truthahn. And nobody has even been talking about a "Haustruthuhn".

Gen, yes, a Pute and Haustruthahn are the same but a Haustruthahn and a Truthahn aren't.
And as the article said, usually Haustruthahn is served for Thanksgiving nowadays. Not normal (wild) Truthahn: If you look at the Truthahn article, you will find that it is an animal that lives in North America, not in Europe.
(Wild) Truthahn does not mean it cannot be bought at a butcher's and before having been held in a cage.

I was just saying that Pute and the turkey served in the US is indeed the same thing, no matter how many people may insist it isn't.

The confusion that the German family in question has, is perhaps that pute is very commonly associated with "babypute" in Germany nowadays, which does indeed taste different to a full grown fellow, but is still a turkey. Maybe they thought it was a different bird altogether, but it isn't, they are just idiots. Be sure to point out to them that they are idiots. I would.

Is it to late to buy a turkey? If so, where? I thought this would be easier... you find every other animal at the local Tangelman:) Gosh I am so American sometimes!

For today? And you posted 6 minutes before you know the shops close? Unless your local Tankstelle keeps turkeys I reckon you be shit out of luck. It's not really fair to call yourself 'so American sometimes'. I know loads and loads of really rather smart Americans.

I've ordered a "Truthahn" at Höhenrainer for this year and if I get there and they even try to give me just a standard run-of-the-mill Haustruthuhn, I'll refer them to you.

The differnce is the Truthahn has more qualifications than a Pute.

When calculating the size, remember that 0.5 kilo per persion is 0.5 kilos of meat! Not of bird. The bird will have a lot of other tackle in there adding to the weight. So 0.75kg might be a better way to calculate on bird weights.

I'm sure that what is eaten usually is a Haustruthahn, even though we don't explicitly call them that. The pet cats most people have are also Hauskatzen even though we usually just say Katzen.

So did you all have your Truthahn/Pute yet?

No! I did have pumpkin soup for dinner last night though.

Well I had my 18lb Butterball turkey, very nice it was too, have rather a lot of leftovers though.

Hi,
in Germany there is not really 'Thanksgiving Day'.. So, does anyone have the cooking recipe (the original)? Would be nice. Thank you!

Jil

I know it's not the same, but I'm having Thanksgiving on Sunday because we all had to work yesterday, and I wanted some of my husband's family to be able to come in from out of town. But I am serving Pute, and hope it turns out okay. It's my first time cooking a Turkey by myself...

Jil, Jil, Jil.

Jil, Jil, Jil.

Oh dear sweet Jesus, why do you torment us so.

Sorry, you're looking for the original recipe, yeah? Do you mean the one that the first pilgrim used...or the one that the Indian was using right before he got a pile of buckshot in his arse...or perhaps you are looking for the basic recipe for a turkey dinner that Americans in general use? There's this thing called the internet, right. It's a whole load of information stored for your retrieval. There's porn too but we'll leave that aside for a moment. So, on this internet thing you can find all sorts of things.

Noooooow (the word 'now' dragged out for emphasis), what exactly the fuck are you looking for?

Original Recipe can be found here.

JJ: ten points.

So what could it be I looked for ??? Thanksgiving is an american tradition.
This forum should be for a small talk or conversations for everybody, right and I think I asked polite. Perhaps not exactly enough but polite. I asked “Does anyone have the recipe..?�, I didn’t ask “Keydeck, do you have the recipe..?�. Frankly did you know that you have an 'offensive language', Keydeck? You don't know me, what's wrong with you?

I am not interested in this conversation tone.
Definitely.

Jil

I'm trying to decipher this. Do you mean "What should I have looked for?" If so, Googling thanksgiving turkey recipes or any permutation thereof would have done the trick.

Kay, I understand what Jil is trying to say. Try directly translating it into German and saying it with a sarcastic tone and you'll get what she meant (I am not sure if the same meaning is conveyed in English with sarcastic tone).

Jil, the thing is, there is no such thing as an original recipe, except of course the one that was used for the first Thanksgiving ever, but for all I know they may not even have had turkey back then. Every family will have their own variation of Thanksgiving turkey, especially when it comes to the stuffing, so googling it is really the best you will get. You could also use the search function here to see if anyone has posted a recipe to know which one would be good or not.

Here is a start for you: Food Network's turkey recipes

> Thanks to Kay & Mariposa.

@ Mariposa: „ Try directly translating it into German and saying it with a sarcastic tone and you'll get what she meant (I am not sure if the same meaning is conveyed in English with sarcastic tone).�

Correct!
Jil

Jil, sweetheart, why you so uptight? Haven't you heard of new Cadbury's...no hang on, that's a different ad. Listen love, first off, as I say to every fuckwit who adopts a similar attitude, this is a relatively open forum so EVERYBODY (big letters just for you) has the right to respond to topics which are started. The term "discussion forum" wasn't invented for no reason. So, of course you did not ask me directly, but as a member of this forum I am perfectly entitled to respond to you.

Now, in response to your points, yes you did ask politely. Very politely in fact and fair play to you. However, you asked for the original cooking recipe. With the benefit of hindsight does that not strike you as a pretty daft question? No? According to your profile we are of similar years. Surely you would be aware that asking such a question in any forum (online or otherwise) is akin to asking how long a piece of string is. Come on, you're a smart lady. Oh and as you so astutely pointed out, it is an American (capitalisation added by me for your ongoing education) tradition. So as a non-American just like myself I feel that we are in a similar position in terms of entitlement to comment.

As to whether or not I am aware that I have an 'offensive language', the language I speak is English. Is that offensive to you? Perhaps you meant to ask if I was aware that I had an offensive tone. Was that what you meant? If so then the answer is that I am aware that my tone is offensive to some people. Personally I prefer to call it direct. You're German, you should understand the concept of directness which can be construed as offensiveness.

Lastly, and most amusingly to me, if, as you state, you are not interested in this converation tone, then why in the name of Jehovah's left gonad do you feel the urge to respond to it? You know that's only going to make me reply to you. If you are not interested then why not go off and do something that you are interested in instead?