Adult entertainment jobs

Hello Everyone.
I have been reading through these forums and i cant seem to find this topic anywhere. How does one go about getting a work permit and what kind when doing adult entertainment? I already have a residence permit. Also, how would one pay taxes doing this types of job?
I know some people are not familiar with how employment of this type works so i will give a brief summary. Usually one auditions for an agency or a club. If working at a club, each shift that is worked the entertainer must pay a fee to work there. So the entertainer is *not* usually paid by the club or agency.
Thanks

Do you not get the money in your G-String? Trousers on and off you go. What beamter is going to search in there...

I am interested in working legally and getting a visa for work, which will enable me to stay in the county. Adult entertainers have to pay taxes too. (even if they are not paid by the agency or club)
If a government found out an entertainer was not paying taxes as the rest of the workers they would get in big trouble.

Are you talking about being a stripper or a hooker?

stripping, go go dancing. not interesting in doing prostitution.

i think we need photographic evidence that you are suitable for this line of work before we give any advice

You don't mention your citizenship. Does your residence permit not allow you to work?
My guess is that it would be a LOT of hassle to get a work permit on the basis of working in this field.

If you were working in this field as self employed, you'd do a tax return and pay social insurance contributions like any other artist.

I strongly suspect though that a fair ammount of the business is conducted on a EUR 400 basis and / or cash in hand.

Is that what they call a hand-job...

I have been looking for normal work as well as this type. I am a US citizen. I had been here a couple months before i registered, i have a residence permit. Because other types of jobs want me to have a work permit to work, but i need a permit to work it has been very difficult. I have already found one potential club to work. In the US, working at most club entertainer are independent contractors, so they are not technically employed by the club. I don't know if its the same here tho. I have found one club to work so far, but i don't know how the other legal bit and pieces work, so i have not started there officially, in addition of finding a closer place near my flat. I would have asked the club managers but they did not speak english and my german is basic,

Geld = money.

All right carry on.

Can you not see a bit of a pattern here?

You don't seem to know the market that well, don't have the permit and don't speak the language.
Yet you want to work in a job where you will (probably) by having to re-negotiate the conditions for every few days work at most
with some pretty unscrupulous people in an industry where, to put it bluntly, getting screwed by the boss is a common occurance.

I'd continue looking for a "real" job where you can get the paperwork sorted.
Plenty of people would also do bar work on the side but of course I'd never suggested anyone doing anything illegal.

Bella, is that you?

You know, that was my thought exactly when I read this post yesterday.

When i went to the Ausländebhörde the work forms they gave me didn't have a box to select self employed. Is there a website link anywhere to print out these forms online, and are there separate forms for artists/self employed? When working as ad entertainer in the states, entertainer were usually independent contractors. Is there anything like that here?

Who is Bella? Would this person have in for on this subject maybe?

thanks for all of the help so far

One more question. On the Forms for the work permit, there is a word i am not familiar with, Rechtsgrundlage, what does it mean?

Please keep them coming... I haven't laughed so much in ages!

What kind of "Aufenthaltstitel" do you have?

Tourist, Student, ... ? Work permit is connected with that, I think...
I doubt you would have or get a "Aufenthalt zum Zwecke der Erwerbstätigkeit" according to §21 AufenthG ("Selbständige Tätigkeit"), because there is no shortage of adult entertainers in germany.

"Rechtsgrundlage" would probably be the law on which a decision is based.

FUCK ME!
You be quiet at the back there Keydeck!

Listen mate Pancake: if it's a serious question, you'll get a serious answer(s).
But right now it looks like a piss take.

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Go look for a cash in hand job in a bar.
When you are sorted, look round what you want to do and where you want to be.

HI Pancake, can you share with a fellow american how you managed to get a residence permit ? As far as getting a work permit, I believe you would be considered a freelance person. I agree with the previous poster though, you should avoid this type of work for your own safety or have someone who can translate and stick up for you... like a big German boyfriend.

Is your preferred scent Parfum de Troll?

you need to go into the clubs with somebody who speaks German, sit at the bar, chat with the girls and find out the answers from the insiders. Also some of the clubs might have an amateur night. Go to one of these and perform, see how you fare.
It's like stripping in the US, one always goes into the clubs and deals with it in person and with the managers!
Going on a discussion forum for answers to this is a waste of time!

It's entertaining though!

Regardless of being no shortage of entertainers,i would still have to pay taxes. I would rather do this job legally than risk myself to certain consequences. thanks for the link.


Is it easy to get a work permit for freelance?
I appreciate you concern about safety, but i am not an amateur to this industry so i am aware about safety.

Pancake, would you go to Indonesia for the right job in this line of work?

There's a very stable position that's just opened up b/c the former employee had some technical paperwork issues.

Oh
My
God
That is just so fucked up.

Yeah but, many employers will want to pay you cash and at a level that wouldn't necessarily cover the tax and social insurance contributions if you were doing it legally.

The adult entertainment in Germany is mostly prostitution, there is no market here for strippers like there is in the USA, you will be expected to provide sex to customers, and you will be competing with women from Eastern Europe who have pushed local German women out of the business. Good luck finding a job, its not going to be easy.

I wouldn't go as far as ZZ. But.

Go go dancers , erotic dancers in (kind of) "regular" bars aren't that common.
At least when I compare it to the UK or what I know of the USA.

Maybe Berlin is different but certainly in Munich, Germany's third largest city, "pure" dancing is a rare thing, maybe on at a couple of venues a night.
Mostly, it does blend into the prostitution scene.

Another case of "grass always greener" here I'm afraid - the amount of strippers in the US and UK who do a lil' extra is basically "all of em".

EDIT : I think New York New York in Munich is basically clean of this kind though - then again I don't know anyone who works there , just my impression of the place.

Is prostitution legal in UK? I always thought the reason strippers are so popular in US is lack of legal prostitution.