DanHessen
Nov 5 2007, 9:26 am
Spotted on the Frankfurt Zeil yesterday: c.a. 8,000 women (and some dudes) wearing the old Yasir Arafat Pali-tuch. Apparently it's this year's must-have accessoire. Shopkeepers seen frantically dumping inventory of Chez Guevara T-shirts.
Begs the question, with Pali-tücher staging such a strong comeback, can 80's era mullets be so far behind?
Schotte
Nov 5 2007, 9:32 am
keep up

this is so last week fashion

(incidentally quite popular in UK of late)
Allershausen
Nov 5 2007, 9:38 am
Blimey, I hope you're not in the fashion business, my daughter and her mates have been wearing these all year.
DanHessen
Nov 5 2007, 9:39 am
Given the number I saw yesterday, we may be at the peak of the cycle.
bluedave
Nov 5 2007, 9:40 am
Go on then, i'll play, wtf is a pali-tuch?
Allershausen
Nov 5 2007, 9:41 am
These things:

google is your friend!
Schotte
Nov 5 2007, 9:42 am
shemagh ala Bravo Two Zero or someat.
do people actually were these in support of whatever/whoever or just cos they look cool...?
Bluedave - Get yourself down to the little shop next to foot locker and saturn at the top of kaufingerstrasse, 5.99euros and the jobs a good 'un
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 9:49 am
I was a teenager in the 80s (mind you in Bumfuck, NSW), but I don´t remember these at all. If it had been a trend, I would have worn it.
DanHessen
Nov 5 2007, 9:54 am
I can only speak for 1981 Würzburg-area. All the hash smokers had one with their Scorpions leather jackets.
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 9:55 am
Hmmm...well, they always say if you are old enough to remember a trend the first time, you shouldn´t "do it" again.
QUOTE (DanHessen @ Nov 5 2007, 9:26 am)

Chez Guevara
Is this a new French restaurant?
Allershausen
Nov 5 2007, 10:06 am
It's a revolutionary new restaurant!
DanHessen
Nov 5 2007, 10:10 am
Heh, heh. It's Monday.
RainyDays
Nov 5 2007, 10:28 am
I'm afraid to say that Germany lags behind a year – see
Kafiyah Scarf on a British/American fashion forum, thread started in October 2006. And they don't look any less stupid now they're around the second time.
Allershausen
Nov 5 2007, 10:33 am
If you'd bothered to read the thread you'd have noticed that I said my daughter and her mates have been wearing them all year, not just started wearing them. It's fashion, if you don't like it don't wear it, they don't look any more stupid then lots of other so called fashion items, you're probably just too old.
RainyDays
Nov 5 2007, 10:41 am
Pardon me, just wanted to confirm your post with an authoritative source

. And I'll stick with finding them stupid. Luckily, we don't all have the same taste. That would be so boring.
In the 80s, wearing the Palestinaenser-Tuch was a political statement (and I was one of them wearing it ...)- nowadays, it's a fashion trend (and my daughter is one of them wearing it). I don't think she knows anything about Palaestina (my attempts of political, historical or geographic education have failed so far). I don't think my motivation was much different than hers, I just wanted to be cool.
Keydeck
Nov 5 2007, 11:08 am
Think I might still have one knocking around back home somewhere. PLO scarf, worn with German army stylee coat and perhaps a Zig & Zag pin badge, ripped jeans and basketball boots. Christ!
Schotte
Nov 5 2007, 1:02 pm
one of my mates was just telling me that he saw none other than jeremy clarkson wearing one. excellent. good to know they really are stylish...
Elfenstar
Nov 5 2007, 1:44 pm
so what do they call those ugly, scarf-like things that a lot of germans, men too, wear tightly wrapped around their necks? they're usually pretty ugly colors, nothing as beautifuil as what i would wear.
Oh, those are probably just ordinary scarves, in case they meet up with a health endangering draft. Quite deadly, you know!
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 2:35 pm
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Nov 5 2007, 11:08 am)

Think I might still have one knocking around back home somewhere. PLO scarf, worn with German army stylee coat and perhaps a Zig & Zag pin badge, ripped jeans and basketball boots. Christ!
We need a photo!
This is not good, this is not goog at all, Keydeck has triggered a flashback.
Were Polish army boots ever a good idea?
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 2:56 pm
Do you have a photo? That I would like to see.
All I remember was some of the REALLY cool kids had East/West? German Army jackets...
No you wouldn't Renia, you are too young to deal with that level of eyeball searing.
I won't even mention the baggy jumper or the combat pants, but lets just say when grunge came around I was wondering what all the fuss was about.
Punchbear
Nov 5 2007, 3:15 pm
QUOTE (Yeti @ Nov 5 2007, 2:48 pm)

Were Polish army boots ever a good idea ?

Oh dear. You've opened the gates. To Fashion Hell.
Eck Spatz
Nov 5 2007, 3:44 pm
You know you want one!
Punchbear
Nov 5 2007, 3:46 pm
Why do bald Germans wear them? Do they know what they look like? Would it be wildly inappropriate to take an indelible marker and draw a line in the middle of their pate? Would they get the message then?
Eck Spatz
Nov 5 2007, 3:51 pm
I had to do it...
Eck Spatz
Nov 5 2007, 3:54 pm
Is this solely a German male trend: blue jeans below and jacket 'n' tie above? Or do other nationalities consider 'ok'?
bluedave
Nov 5 2007, 4:01 pm
Ah, youth and fashion, how we forget.
Doc Martins, skinners jeans and a Ben Sherman or Jaytex shirt.
Just like the picture actually.
Reminiscence is such sweet nectar.

QUOTE
"I want all you skinheads to get up on your feet, put your braces together and your boots on your feet and give me some of that old moonstomping……"
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 5:13 pm
QUOTE (Punchbear @ Nov 5 2007, 3:15 pm)

Oh dear. You've opened the gates. To Fashion Hell.
Which one is you? Do tell!
Punchbear
Nov 5 2007, 5:41 pm
I can hold my hand on my heart and say "Thank Cyndi Laupers purple jodphurs that I'm not in that picture." Guys from my year in secondary school, I'm guessing this is 1988/89, 1990 at latest.
I can't hold my hand on my heart and say "Thank Jim Kerrs unseemly gents ski-pants that I'm no' in this picture." Only redeeming thing is the Watchmen badge, but that hair...one Cure/Smiths album too many.

And I think that's a Vauxhall Viscount in the background.
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 5:46 pm
Thanks for sharing, I´m sure all have skeletons in our closets

. Thank God digital cameras weren´t around then...
bluedave
Nov 5 2007, 5:47 pm
I dunno about then Renia but i seem to remember a certain Pipi Longstocking photo . . .
Ah, but Pippi is timeless!
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 6:02 pm
Damn, how short my memory is!
GreenTea
Nov 5 2007, 8:15 pm
QUOTE (zee @ Nov 5 2007, 11:02 am)

In the 80s, wearing the Palestinaenser-Tuch was a political statement (and I was one of them wearing it ...)- nowadays, it's a fashion trend (and my daughter is one of them wearing it). I don't think she knows anything about Palaestina (my attempts of political, historical or geographic education have failed so far). I don't think my motivation was much different than hers, I just wanted to be cool.
I'm not sure, I think the motivation
was different back then. For me, having lived through the 60's, 70's and 80's, when Palestinian headscarves, Che Guevara pinups, or hippie-look exotic clothes were an anti-establishment, anti-fashion statement, it's weird seeing it all come around again, marketed by designer labels as a fashion craze.
I wonder what the fashion craze will be 30 years from now? Bin Laden T-shirts? Saddam? George W Bush, anyone?
Lavender Rain
Nov 5 2007, 8:44 pm
Her style is timeless with lots of panache. Even the dog is chic! The necklace is the newest must-have piece of jewelry for women.
Renia
Nov 5 2007, 8:47 pm
Is that your prediction for 30 years in the future?
Editor Bob
Nov 10 2007, 2:52 pm
QUOTE (DanHessen @ Nov 5 2007, 9:26 am)

Shopkeepers seen frantically dumping inventory of Chez Guevara T-shirts.
How about combining the two?
I reckon we'll be seeing more of Che again next year with the release of Steven Soderbergh's "Guerrilla", starring Benicio del Toro:
Renia
Nov 10 2007, 3:59 pm
He´s not good looking enough to be Che

(at least not in that picture).
I agree, I would have liked to see someone more handsome in that role.
Renia
Nov 10 2007, 5:05 pm
But maybe he will be charismatic? Which is the whole point of Che, really.
True, we'll just have to wait and see...
Amber127
Nov 12 2007, 10:20 pm
That's what those ugly things are?
Oh and don't worry mullets are strong, I see them everyday. Men and women and it gives me nasty flashbacks of Billy Ray Cyrus...Also I have even seen kids with rat tails here, ohhhh the horror...
MollyB
Nov 12 2007, 11:07 pm
Yep.
Somehow the really ugly stuff never disappears completely ...
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