Avoiding traffic jams between Munich and Karlsruhe

Hello,

i just drove back to France, and between Munich and Karlsruhe it was almost non-stop traffic jams. Is it a reasonnable option to choose the parallel national road, which looks pretty curvy ? Or is it advisable to drive up to Nûrmberg instead, then go west ? Or else, driving to Zurich is obviously much longer in terms of kilometers, but is traffic more fluid ?

All your advices will be so so so greatly appreciated !

Have a nice Halloween (or any party you'll make),

Florence

Autumn school holidays just started in the southern states...

Drive between 0200-0500 in the morning.. Not much out on the roads then..

Train. ICE travels at up to 300km/h.

SUV. You can then use the off-road sat nav and all the country tracks through fields and the wald, it is fun and the farmers wave and laugh at you when you go by

That is unless theres a striking train/driver blocking the line..

Bouhouhou...does this mean there is no real better way than staying stuck behind an endless file of cars if i still want to drive during daytime ?
About the country roads, was there some kind of truth ? Or let's put it that way, how is it to drive to, say, Stuttgart not taking the highway ? Anyone who actually tried that ?

Flo

You can use the country tracks but you would need a serious off-roader and it would take you hours. Have driven from Munich to Schladming when the auto-bahn was stationary due to extremely heavy snow and idiot foreigners trying drive with summer tyres. Went along the minor roads and a few country tracks (non-listed roads) and the journey took 7.5 hours instead of 2 and a bit.

Fantastic fun but no good if you want to use it as a commuter route, best use the train (if they are not on strike)

A8 is always a "tough" road to drive on because of congestion and a lot of two-lane highway, but right now it's a disaster, as you have pointed out. I have tried taking A6 which is a detour, but I've gotten caught in nasty traffic jams there because of roadworks between Heilbronn and Ulm. There are no miracle solutions as far as I can see and secondary roads can sometimes be as slow as moving along slowly on a highway. Also, in my experience, GPS traffic reports are often completely inaccurate and I have found myself stuck in traffic jams which are not announced yet taken routes to avoid alleged problems which in actual fact did not exist.

Or use google maps route calculations...something like this:

http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&hl=de&a...mp;z=8&om=1

use/click "Autobahnen vermeiden" to avoid highways.

Dino in non-religious post shocker

I hope there is hope left even for me then ?

Really, I take my faith quite seriously.

Buy a navigation system (TomTom, Miedion etc) with TMC and it will recalculate the route to aviod the traffic where possible

I regulary drive to Freiburg.
The route via Lindau is a good alternate route, as well as leaving the A8 at Stuttart and take the A81 (direction Singen), continue on B31 via Donaueschingen. This is best on a sunday, when no trucks are allowed.
Alternatively, you can take the B311 from Ulm on (via Tuttlingen).

Helicopter

Well, i think i'll go for the helicopter then...
Thanks a lot for your answers, even though not quite what i hoped for, but well, this time, impossible will be français also and i guess we'll just behave and wait...

Flo

Well, there are many Routes to Rome and Dino is probably taking a Detour