Should TT ban all religious topics?

Another member recently called for the "Seperation of Church and Toytown". Fair enough and I for one agree.

The first response that some people might have is, "well, we can just ignore it". However, the problem with the fanatical nature of some fundamentalist on the forum is not that they start threads but that they so frequently and effectively hijack perfectly good discussions with their intolerant, illogical, hateful propaganda and never let up..

Trolling on TT is not allowed because a person who is trolling is intentionally creating conflict or disharmony on a forum. But consider some of our more established religious fundamentalist on the board; they have been around long enough to know exactly what the majority of TTers think about their intolerant propaganda and yet they continue. So basically, they know from the start, that the nature of their post will create conflict and disharmony.

Personal insults are also not allowed on TT. But imagine for a minute that you are a gay man who happens to believe in god but keeps it relatively private. How personally insulted would you be if someone else, professing to share your "faith" tells you that "gays are an abomination and disgusting". That sounds pretty personal to me and is an insult based upon fundamentalist, religious dogma and hatred.

So I think there is a connection between the nature of certain religious post and these two, banned activites (trolling and personal insults).

In the end this is for Editor Bob to decide. Lately quite a few people have said, "hey, enough is enough".

So maybe a poll could clarify things a bit. ?

edit: I voted to have a separate forum but the vote is not showing up.

Really Saint talking about yourself like that shows really how impartial you can be when you try.

Really? I didn't know I was religious or intolerant! I'll have to think about that. PM me and tell me how I am intolerant and I will work on it if I think you're right!

But I guess you're right. I'm intolerant of intolerance. I like gays, women and personal intellectual freedom. And I am blatantly politically incorrect.

I'm intolerent of fucktards

My initial thinking would be to completely ban, but then as it is a forum where freedom of speach exists, then i would probably be persuaded to for to a separate forum. However the separate forum will not allow for thread hijacks.

Worm, we could have a separate forum for Fucktards too ..and throw the conspiracy theorist in

@ Saint

Well I would say that people like you and people like BadBob are both as bad as each other and if you like I can trawl through both of your posts to justify my opinion and PM it to you but it will have to be another day as I have to actually do some work today...

OK Topcat, when you have some time do that and I will try to understand what you mean.

Definitely no separate forum; it would just encourage that kind of topic. It's only one or two people who start these religious threads, so if everyone ignored them then they'd get bored and go somewhere else. If people are responding then there is obviously interest, so no point banning them either.

I reckon they should get their own sub forum where they can praise their invisible sky fairy and talk about it's unending love and the Ultimate Truth (© God) until the cows come home.

...I think you just described what Churches are for

We can talk all about sex, kids, petty issues like where to find a doctor, what to do with a fingernail, how to cook..etc but when someone talks about
religion or God...*BOOM* everything explodes.

There is some truth in it after all, or else why the fuss...?

Who ever made a big fuss about santa ?

Talk about tolarance!

Ah, fuck! Look who Jesus just dragged in

bin 'em and ban 'em!
it's the only way to deal with fanatical religious fuckwits like this dino bloke

I think we need more options than just the following:
• To completely ban topics based on religion.
• To have a separate forum for religious chat
• Just ignore it

How about adding:
• Continuing with the status quo, as this is after all the best of all possible chat-worlds

Hmm...based on the Editor Bob's user statistics summary, the majority of members (approximately 1/3 of total readership) are either not reading those threads or simply not responding to them. Their thoughts are unfortunately excluded from the stats.

Though there's probably an active vocal minority of users that do read most threads and respond. Let's see if this poll crosses the magical 9,000 votes mark.

topcat, there is a difference between extreme right wing neocon madness laced with socio-political derangement and poking fun...

A saint asking for a ban on religious discussion?

I'm The Saint of Irony my dear man

and I'm not asking for a ban, just gathering the general opinion because in the past two weeks a number of people have implied or directly said, "do we have to have this kind of fundamentalism on the forums?"

Jesus - why separate them? Dangerous precedent to set if you ask me - if DR and I are allowed to call all and sundry cunts, I don't see why a few people shouldn't be allowed to mention God and Jebus now and again on the proviso that they appreciate that the responses they receive may not always be in agreement.

grrrr - now all the vote options have been set back to zero, but it won't let me vote again - grrrrr

See Dino, right there, that's the crux of the matter. It's never just talk - it's preaching.

Besides that, next time your Spaghetti-Zombie cracks you on the head with a hailstone shaped like Lazarus' gall bladder, you'll be needing a doctor then alright. Then it won't be so petty.

Bad idea on sub-forum, it's not as if the place isn't already a magnet for freaks, it'd end up like living beside an airport, they'd have a focal point and before you know it, Toytown becomes Jebusville.

My God's dad is bigger than your God's dad.

I wonder if that happened when I edited a misspelled word in my initial post...?? oops

shit, sorry about that.

Last I looked most said to separate them or ignore them and a few said ban completely.

*runs and hides cuz she thinks she fucked the poll up*

Don't ban the topics and don't create a subforum.

Just put the users that annoy you on ignore, avoid the obvious troll topics like dino's 'Stigmata' nonsense, report anything you think crosses a line and let the mods do the rest.

Edit: I'll say it again: report report report (if you choose not to use the ignore function). Perhaps the mods will get so sick of all the reporting that they'll start banning certain users just to avoid the hassle.

Nah! reopen Dachau and fuck them all in. They have to suffer for their beliefs...or so they tell us.

I think a lot of people can't be bothered to contribute to such threads cause the same boring discussions are being repeated over and over again and religion does not give a reply to many things that exist on this planet. (from dinosaurs to why bad things happen)

To mention dinosaurs and religion in the same breath is to fundamentally not understand one or the other.

I originally voted for "ban them", but in reality I'd like to put them all (well, all the preachy types like dino) on a great big fucking bonfire and laugh at them while they burned.

I for one am glad that they closed dino's stupid stigmata thread at least - since he has no idea how God works. Padre Pio is the real deal.

Even the threads to decide in which forum people should waste their time discussing religion are a waste of time.

Edit: Padre Pio may have been the real deal, but could he juggle Maltezers?

Oh my, two years and I still misunderstand the purpose of TT for gainfully employed individuals

Another kid fiddler?

Religion. Fire.

Hmmm... Adolf somebody springs to mind.

For some people, free speech is a very remote and strange idea.

Oi, don't knock the Padre, he's like a Super Priest, gift of bi-location, demon slayer, top transverberator geezer with superpowers. And the patron saint of stress relief.

I think it should have its own forum - same as "adult". Then I can just block that forum, like the adult one, and off we go.

Problem with blocking an individual is that you get to see the responses so it doesnt really help much - just confuses you.

I do think the fucktards need their own area, then we can spilt or delete their threads.

Why?

Well at the moment the way the nutters operate is like me posting randomly about blinking supermarkets in any old thread I want.

At the moment if someone starts a thread on depression, marriage, relationships, sex or whatever you have a 50-50 chance that one of the
freaks will dive in with some aimless toss about God which gets right on my tits. It's like someone posting a thread about having
sexual problems with the boyfriend and me saying the problem is linked to rotten german vegetables.

In fact fuck it. If you don't move the fuckwits to their own forum I am gonna start randomly posting about german supermarkets being
the root of all evil. I personally believe in the great god of food called "Teschrist" and therefore anything I post must be accepted under
freedom of speech and my own personal beliefs.

Isn't it accepted?

EDIT:Since when did anyone complain that you should be moved to a new sub forum...?

Comeon...accept it guys. There is something powerful about God that many do not like.

Can we ban philosophy too? These Neo-Nietzches really piss me off.

I wanna know how much the missionaries on TT are getting paid for the dorky religion advertisements they do on these threads?

I've got two of the posters on this thread on ignore and it seems to be working just fine.

And like I said: if they start spewing their nonsense on totally unrelated topics, report it.

Nothing wrong with the TT missionaries. Well, as a limbering up exercise anyway.

JE, what do you think of the idea of introducing debiting EC cardreaders at the church collections on Sundays. No more rattling of collection boxes. Just like Tesco and Co. Gell!
Now feel free to continue, old boy.

Can't we ban the DA-Munich thread? These Neo-Libs really piss me off.

I find that these discussions for and against religion are a complete waste of time, because those that have faith will (usually) keep it, and those that don't will (usually) never get it.

My opinion would be to put all the religious chat under one hood, and keep these distractions from the things that really matter to me.

Why not ban the religious nutz from TT instead...

I agree. We need a sub-section devoted purely to sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll.

Its a fucking good thing JC didn't try this gig in Germany. Finding 2 fresh fish in this part of the world would have been the bigger miracle.

Or we could gas them. Oh, no, hang on. Been done.

When we all know its linked to bad service...