Element2082
Oct 23 2007, 6:00 pm
BBC News:
EU pins skills hopes on 'blue card'QUOTE (BBC News)
Like the American green card, the EU "blue card" will operate on a points system for skills and languages, with some weight given to family ties.
An engineer who speaks English and French, and who has family in France, would have a better chance of getting a permit than an unskilled labourer who speaks only a little English and has no family in the EU.
The areas worst affected by skills shortages are engineering, information technology, pharmaceuticals, healthcare, and education, according to the European Commission. Belgium, Estonia, Germany, Ireland and Sweden are among the countries reporting shortages
Good or bad for Europe? Some sort of standardisation I guess.
barbett
Oct 24 2007, 7:44 am
An interesting thing is that Germany has simultaneously a relatively high unemployment rate (among young people as well) and a shortage of workers with certain skills.
Difficult problem to solve, but maybe there should be more state sponsored initiatives to acquire these skills (i.e. computer science training).
dvance
Oct 24 2007, 12:06 pm
I would think they would try to get young people to uni before looking for skilled labor outside of their own country. But then again, an unmotivated worker/student is always worse than somebody who's trying his best to excel at his job so he does not lose it.
Freising
Oct 24 2007, 12:11 pm
German Politicians Reject EU Fast-Track Migration Scheme (Spiegel Online)QUOTE
Politicians in Germany have voiced their opposition to a Blue Card fast-track migration scheme for the EU. But the country's business leaders say the economy desperately needs more workers to meet the growing skills shortages.
MonksTown
Oct 24 2007, 12:59 pm
There needs to be the prospect of the right to settle long term in Germany and bring family members with you or Germany will NOT attract the skilled people it needs.
We saw that the last time they tried a national scheme.
krostitzer
Oct 24 2007, 11:46 pm
So... I read the article but don't get what the problem is for the opposition. Of course there are a lot of unemployed people, but most of them are not qualified for specialist work. Qualifying them might require overhauling something else such as the education/adult education system. OTOH letting in a bunch of specialists wouldn't exactly be opening the floodgates for riffraff and spongers. You'd get a lot more creative thinkers and entrepreneurs, and how can that be detrimental...
davidpaul
Mar 3 2008, 12:21 pm
Blue card also got some negative points.T
This will bring here people who are ready to work for overtime and lower wages.
This is what happen now in US with the Green card.Once no one worked on weekend but now in most IT firms you find people working late nights and weekends.Employers are always happy to recruit these kind of people who always say "YES SIR"
Conquistador
Mar 3 2008, 12:25 pm
When did IT people in the US ever not work on weekends at all (this also depends on what your specific position is and where you are working)? Sorry, but working weekends or late to finish projects or do scheduled maintenance is par for the course in IT, including sometimes being "on-call".
TexMunich
Mar 3 2008, 12:54 pm
QUOTE (davidpaul @ Mar 3 2008, 12:21 pm)

Blue card also got some negative points.T
This will bring here people who are ready to work for overtime and lower wages.
This is what happen now in US with the Green card.Once no one worked on weekend but now in most IT firms you find people working late nights and weekends.Employers are always happy to recruit these kind of people who always say "YES SIR"
Maybe it was caused by Globalization? Just closing your eyes and wishing your Global competitors will give their workers 6 weeks vacation, all holidays and weekends off will not make it so.
Why do you think Siemens, Nokia, BMW are moving some business units out of Germany?
davidpaul
Mar 3 2008, 12:55 pm
I agree with what Conquestador said
"working weekends or late to finish projects or do scheduled maintenance is par for the course in IT, including sometimes being "on-call".
But this should not be made a regular practice.
Let me give you my own experience,I worked with a team consisting of 6 members and everything went well later they introduced 12 more people who came from xxxx Country.Most of them had nothing to do on weekends and come to office to chat and surf internet in the name of work.
This became a regular practice and management decided to give 50€ plus for those who work on weekend and then all 12 members started to work on weekend.We were also asked to work which we refused.Later things got escalated and client started putting pressure saying the project needs to be finished fast for which everyone should work on weekend.
Finally we completed the project as scheduled before which could be possible without working on weekend.
QUOTE (dvance @ Oct 24 2007, 12:06 pm)

I would think they would try to get young people to uni before looking for skilled labor outside of their own country. .
I think the problem in Germany is trying to get them OUT of Uni!
jackal
Mar 3 2008, 1:19 pm
QUOTE (davidpaul @ Mar 3 2008, 12:55 pm)

Most of them had nothing to do on weekends and come to office to chat and surf internet in the name of work.
This became a regular practice and management decided to give 50€ plus for those who work on weekend and then all 12 members started to work on weekend.
Its really stupid management, may be they might have gone bankrupt. Paying 50 Euro plus for simply sitting over the weekend is stupidity.
You should have been a responsible employee and complained of the said activity or may be talked with those xxxx Country people coming to chat, that these are the problems if you come over the weekend.
Conquistador
Mar 3 2008, 1:26 pm
Every situation is different, even if there are some similarities. Some people like to work on weekends, others are indifferent, and yet others hate it with a passion. There is enough room for all types.
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