broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 10:38 am
I need more of a social life so i want to go out and do more things. So i have run into a problem when going out alone. Sometimes get followed or stopped by weird guys. Some of them won't go away. And when i think i had made it clear i didn't want to be around them i sometimes see them again, and they won't leave me alone. I am very much open to male(or female) friends, but some creepy weirdos won't leave me the eff alone when i have figured out they have intentions i don't like. My limited German skills make it difficult to express what i want to say. I would consider going out with friends, but since i got here i haven't met new friends yet, asides from my bf and his sisters(i also enjoy my solitude in the city sometime). I want to go out and meet new friends but having this happen every time i go out is discouraging. I am still adjusting to the life style here so i don't know all the fun things to do yet.
Does anybody else get followed by unwanted people? What can be said to them to make them go away?
BattalionBoy
Oct 15 2007, 10:45 am
One sure way is to pretend that you want to have sex with them and when they drop their pants laugh out loud hysterically and say that’s the smallest penis you have ever seen. This can have a strong emasculating effect on them and it should make them piss off prompto with their tail between their legs.
Gen
Oct 15 2007, 10:47 am
Are you from a small town? If so you may be smiling at people as part of your normal friendly personality. Stop doing that.
Fallen Angel
Oct 15 2007, 10:49 am
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 11:38 am)

What can be said to them to make them go away?
"Verpiss dich!" should do the trick. Or perhaps try, "Hau ab, Du Wichser."
Hazza
Oct 15 2007, 10:54 am
Gee...you could have just asked me to stop following you around. You didn't need to start a thread about it...
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:02 am
QUOTE (BattalionBoy @ Oct 15 2007, 11:45 am)

One sure way is to pretend that you want to have sex with them and when they drop their pants laugh out loud hysterically and say that’s the smallest penis you have ever seen. This can have a strong emasculating effect on them and it should make them piss off prompto with their tail between their legs.
LoL... thats funny, but then i really would rather not see them that way
QUOTE (Gen @ Oct 15 2007, 11:47 am)

Are you from a small town? If so you may be smiling at people as part of your normal friendly personality. Stop doing that.
I am from Southern California. And i didn't grow up in a small town. I don't smile at everybody, in fact i don't even go out of my way to make eye contact. Some of them just come up to me out of the blue or yell to get my attention.
Punchbear
Oct 15 2007, 11:10 am
So if I'm reading this correctly, you're living in Moosach, a place not exactly renowned for its' nightlife and going out on your own. What kind of places are you going to? Bars or restaurants? Pils Pubs, Stehkneipen? Maybe you're frequenting the wrong venues and your pub-radar just needs some some fine-tuning. Is there a disproportionately high ratio of men to women in these places?
Gen
Oct 15 2007, 11:15 am
making eye contact counts as smiling here... even if you don't go out of your way to do it.
Tiggi
Oct 15 2007, 11:16 am
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 11:38 am)

Does anybody else get followed by unwanted people? What can be said to them to make them go away?
Yes. I normally find that either ignoring them entirely or just saying "Sorry, I'm not interested" and moving away yourself works fine, depending on the situation. Don't smile, make as little eye contact as possible and sound both cold and assertive. Sure, they'll think you're a bitch, but they'll probably leave you alone. Getting out your mobile may also deter them, as you give the impression you may be planning to meet someone or at least have back-up. Best of all would be to socialise with a friend or in a group - maybe try some meet-ups on here? (Though no guarantees you won't be pursued by various TTers!

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Edit: If people start yelling at you or approach you on the street, don't interact at all and just walk away. Am assuming the main problem is at bars etc. though? Always have a mobile, taxi numbers and enough cash for emergencies on you, of course.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:19 am
QUOTE (Punchbear @ Oct 15 2007, 12:10 pm)

So if I'm reading this correctly, you're living in Moosach, a place not exactly renowned for its' nightlife and going out on your own. What kind of places are you going to? Bars or restaurants? Pils Pubs, Stehkneipen? Maybe you're frequenting the wrong venues and your pub-radar just needs some some fine-tuning. Is there a disproportionately high ratio of men to women in these places?
This stuff mostly happens when i go to the center of the city for shopping or for wandering and exploration. I have had the occasional asshole truck driver honk when i walk down the street to go to the store. I would expect this type of thing to happen in bars an stuff, i rarely go to bars and if i do, its not alone.
Mariposa
Oct 15 2007, 11:23 am
As long as they don't do anything besides honking or yelling stuff at you, ignore them. By telling them to stop you are also telling them it annoys you and they may even find it more entertaining then.
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 11:23 am
You expect truck drivers to honk at you in bars?
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:23 am
QUOTE (Tiggi @ Oct 15 2007, 12:16 pm)

Yes. I normally find that either ignoring them entirely or just saying "Sorry, I'm not interested" and moving away yourself works fine, depending on the situation. Don't smile, make as little eye contact as possible and sound both cold and assertive. Sure, they'll think you're a bitch, but they'll probably leave you alone. Getting out your mobile may also deter them, as you give the impression you may be planning to meet someone or at least have back-up. Best of all would be to socialise with a friend or in a group - maybe try some meet-ups on here? (Though no guarantees you won't be pursued by various TTers! )
Edit: If people start yelling at you or approach you on the street, don't interact at all and just walk away. Am assuming the main problem is at bars etc. though? Always have a mobile, taxi numbers and enough cash for emergencies on you, of course.
IF i want to say "i am not interested" i would say "ich habe kein interesant" right? Or would it be different?
Mariposa
Oct 15 2007, 11:24 am
Ich bin nicht interessiert. or Ich habe kein Interesse.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:24 am
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Oct 15 2007, 12:23 pm)

You expect truck drivers to honk at you in bars?
absolutely! Don't you see them inside of their truck while they are in the bar?
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 11:26 am
Do you have a tendancy to dress in a way which might be construed by some as being a tad on the slutty side of things?
georgiagirl
Oct 15 2007, 11:26 am
According to your previous posts, you're from a larger city in Southern California and have worked in the entertainment industry. You sound like you'd be a pretty savvy person, and yet you're getting your feathers ruffled over strangers talking to you or truck drivers honking their horns at you? I don't get it.
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 11:28 am
I think GG is suggesting that you grow a pair of bollocks.
Although then it would be advisable to avoid the shorter hemlines as they have a tendancy to show and that's simply unattractive.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:32 am
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Oct 15 2007, 12:26 pm)

Do you have a tendancy to dress in a way which might be construed by some as being a tad on the slutty side of things?
hmm... i thought about that, and i would have to answer no, I am not, usually its to cold for me to even consider that...

QUOTE (georgiagirl @ Oct 15 2007, 12:26 pm)

According to your previous posts, you're from a larger city in Southern California and have worked in the entertainment industry. You sound like you'd be a pretty savvy person, and yet you're getting your feathers ruffled over strangers talking to you or truck drivers honking their horns at you? I don't get it.
I am not emotionally distressed by being honked at or followed. I just don't want to be followed, thats all. I am a small person, so that is also a concern.
georgiagirl
Oct 15 2007, 11:36 am
I'm a 'small person' too. If someone annoys me, know what I do? The same thing I do in cities all over the United States and Europe - either ignore them (works like a charm, it really does) or tell them to fuck off. In English, and loudly. Use the same common-sense personal safety strategies you'd use anywhere... pull out your mobile phone and call a friend, head into a nearby store.
If you can't handle getting out and about by yourself and dealing with a bit of unwanted attention, life is going to be awfully difficult for you.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 11:51 am
QUOTE (georgiagirl @ Oct 15 2007, 12:36 pm)

If someone annoys me, know what I do? The same thing I do in cities all over the United States and Europe - either ignore them or tell them to fuck off. ... If you can't handle getting out and about by yourself and dealing with a bit of unwanted attention, life is going to be awfully difficult for you.
You are annoying me. Either u are blatantly rude or you just don't know how to be constructive. I am not liking the way you are posting in the thread i started. So now, if you are going to continue posting in this thread, please think really long about how to post civilized. You don't know me you don't know how i think. You are ignorantly assuming i don't know how to deal with unwanted attention. I know how to 'ignore' a person or tell them to fuck off, but i prefer to not tell a person to fuck off if they are capable to listening to 'go away'. In this thread I am not asking how to stand up for myself, i know how to do that. i was asking rather how to say it in German. By the way life isn't gonna be awfully difficult for me. I am far more thick skinned than you'll ever know.
Sandgroperin
Oct 15 2007, 11:53 am
People pick up on your vibe weirdo's like that will push the situation if they think they are intimidating you. You don't need to engage with them you just need to keep a confident don't mess with me stare and stance normally it only takes one look of death straight in the eye and they get scared off. I find if you say nothing that is normally better because you give them no ammo to talk back with no in on any type of conversation and you are normally more intimidating yourself. I think it is like when you stare a wild animal or even a dog in the eye with these weirdo's it is a challenge they know it is either fight or flight and they decide to pick on something easier.
the other day in extra a guy in front of me kept looking at me and smiling weirdly - I tried to ignor him as much as you can - anyway he checked through and went on his way and I didn't think anything of it until I realised 4 blocks from the supermarket he was following me - he was about 100 meters behind so I just stopped turned directly at him and stared with the death look and he took the next corner I didn't see him again.
As hard as it can be I really think strong eye contact is the key - intimidated people tend not to be able to hold eye contact.
Kay
Oct 15 2007, 11:53 am
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 12:23 pm)

IF i want to say "i am not interested" i would say "ich habe kein interesant" right? Or would it be different?
Maybe your boyfriend or his sisters could teach you a few useful phrases. Btw, why don't you ask them for advice?
Sandgroperin
Oct 15 2007, 11:58 am
QUOTE (Gen @ Oct 15 2007, 6:15 pm)

making eye contact counts as smiling here... even if you don't go out of your way to do it.
It depends on the look on your face.
georgiagirl
Oct 15 2007, 12:00 pm
pixie, I'm going to ignore your unnecessary tirade (what was that about being thick-skinned again? You're certainly not demonstrating it at the moment) about how uncivilised I am in favour of pointing out that I was simply expressing disbelief that you have never in your life encountered this type of behaviour before; and explaining that techniques you would use to counteract this behaviour are the same as they are anywhere else in the world. This isn't a Germany-specific phenomenon; there's no special German phrase for magically making people disappear, though I often sorely wish there was one.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 12:16 pm
Look you are not giving me advice, nor are you doing me a favor with assuming that i don't know how to deal with real life situations... I feel bad for you, that you automatically assume that.
It's common sense to ignore a person or to tell them to go away. Some people who don't understand english, even if spoken aggressively to, continue follow and need it to be said in german, they are dumb and don't know a hint to go away. This is why i am asking for things to say in german. My issues are also with the ones who DON'T stop following! I never struggle with getting people to stop following me in an english speaking country. So actually this is 'Germany-specific.' Even if there is not a magic phrase, I am still going to ask what can be said(in german) to try.
Sandgroperin
Oct 15 2007, 12:22 pm
well I put "fuck off weirdo arsehole" in the translator and got this "Ficken Sie ab Freak arselock" maybe that will help.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 12:25 pm
Is it grammatically correct?
Darkknight
Oct 15 2007, 12:25 pm
Sandgroperin
Oct 15 2007, 12:27 pm
probably not but wierdo's have no concept of grammar anyway
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 12:30 pm
the pic lol
how did you know I have blond hair..

hey! you are following!
Darkknight
Oct 15 2007, 12:31 pm
Maybe, Maybe not.. Ya never know..
Amber127
Oct 15 2007, 12:38 pm
I had it happen more in the US then I ever had it happen here so far. Ok I am in a different city but they only people who tend to want to talk to me are other foreigners with out knowing I am a foreigner. Example, and Indian guy bummed a cigarette from my on the S bahn platform. Ok no prob. Then started talking to me in German, well my German is rough so I thought a good Ich verstehe nicht Ich sprech wenig Deutsch would work, nope he spoke a little English, Scheisse...anyways after trying to ignore him (there was only one other person on the platform and he didnt look friendly, oh this was at night) he kept talking and he could read hands and heads and wanted to read mine. Now I was being polite without saying leave me alone, but it is still creepy.
Now I just carry my iPod around and ignore people. If I don't hear them they can't bother me. Though I am very alert of my surroundings.
Though here is much better then the city in the US I lived in. I have heard more then once "nice tits" yelled out the car...This while wearing a normal shirt. sometimes lowcut but not enough to see anything. IT was summer and hot!!
georgiagirl
Oct 15 2007, 12:43 pm
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 1:16 pm)

Look you are not giving me advice
...soooo I guess that means you don't want to hear my next suggestion about using TT as a way to make friends so that you don't have to go about town on your own. Ok, I'll keep that one to myself.
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 1:16 pm)

Some people who don't understand english, even if spoken aggressively to, continue follow and need it to be said in german, they are dumb and don't know a hint to go away.
That's just simply not been the case in my experience during the two+ years I have lived in Munich. I go all about the city centre at all hours of the day and night, and have never encountered anyone who didn't bugger off when I gave them an icy stare or addressed them in an assertive manner. You must be running into some sort of über-weirdos. Or you haven't developed your death stare as well as I have.
The iPod suggestion is a good one. I have mine in almost all the time and it does seem to act as a deterrent. But I wouldn't use it at night for safety reasons.
randy
Oct 15 2007, 12:51 pm
"Lass mich in Ruhe" means "don't bother me" or "piss off" depending on how imperatively you utter it. It's very clear in it's meaning.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 12:51 pm
QUOTE (Amber127 @ Oct 15 2007, 1:38 pm)

I have heard more then once "nice tits" yelled out the car...This while wearing a normal shirt. sometimes lowcut but not enough to see anything.
Isn't is weird when ppl yell stuff like that and they can't even see anything. sigh.
Now i wish i had and ipod. That and a cell phone. I have not purchase wither yet coz i am still looking for work.
Punchbear
Oct 15 2007, 12:52 pm
Did you find a medieval pipe at any point in the last six months?
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 12:55 pm
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 1:30 pm)

how did you know I have blond hair..
I reckon it was decided based on your posts.
Element2082
Oct 15 2007, 12:56 pm
QUOTE (georgiagirl @ Oct 15 2007, 1:43 pm)

The iPod suggestion is a good one. I have mine in almost all the time and it does seem to act as a deterrent. But I wouldn't use it at night for safety reasons.
Wow, is that why there are so many people with I-Pods?
I never thought it was actually for a reason...
Munich is a little more weird during Oktoberfest.
Someone I know very well was cornered in a
dirndl store, then followed all the way to the S-Bahn at
Marienplatz. He kept asking her "how much"...so frickin sad and made my blood boil.
Outside of O-Fest it gets a little more normal but if there are people following you and trying to talk with you outside of a normal setting (nighttime or at a U Bahn station) put your head down and hurry off to the nearest store or place of some authority.
Never ever turn to face them...walk away.
That being said, I'm sure you're not scared to walk around by yourself and thats a good thing. Makes me wonder if humans accept certains risks such as being in a car...and worry about the risks that they don't factor in.
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sarabyrd
Oct 15 2007, 12:57 pm
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Oct 15 2007, 1:55 pm)

I reckon it was decided based on your posts.
I didn't quite get that; can you type it again more slowly? Thanks.
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 12:58 pm
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Oct 15 2007, 1:55 pm)

I reckon it was decided based on your posts.
it was the pic of me and georgiangirl going at it, lol
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 1:01 pm
Ah, those Georgian girls.
Click to view attachment
Johnny English
Oct 15 2007, 1:04 pm
Indeed. The period of fashion responsible for inventing the furry muff.
bluedave
Oct 15 2007, 1:04 pm
I'll probably get jumped on for this post but i'm presuming by your posts pixie that English is not your first language?
Yet you claim that you never have this problem in English speaking countries? Is it possible that there is a communication problem going on here?
Oh yeah, btw, when you put up a thread on the intarweb, expect varied opinions and answers, not all of which you will like.
Sandgroperin
Oct 15 2007, 1:12 pm
I...t...a...g...a...i...n...m...o...r...e
broadway_pixie
Oct 15 2007, 1:18 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Oct 15 2007, 2:04 pm)

I'll probably get jumped on for this post but i'm presuming by your posts pixie that English is not your first language ?
Yet you claim that you never have this problem in English speaking countries ? Is it possible that there is a communication problem going on here ?
Oh yeah, btw, when you put up a thread on the intarweb, expect varied opinions and answers, not all of which you will like.
English is my first language, but i prefer to say I speak American, technically English is spoken in English people. America speaks English differently than the English. =)
I am also on other forums. So i am familiar with varied opinions. i don't necessarily dislike differences in opinions, but rather them being posted in a rude manner.
Keydeck
Oct 15 2007, 1:20 pm
So if I were to say, you sound like a right fucking whinging ninny, you'd be somewhat offended?
Just want to check the boundaries.
UrbanAngel
Oct 15 2007, 1:20 pm
I'm sorry, but if English (even US English) is your mother tongue, then you have a very poor grasp of it. Needless to say, I don't believe that, or you're deliberately making mistakes in order for us pedants to pick on you.
georgiagirl
Oct 15 2007, 1:23 pm
Of course she wouldn't be offended, Keydeck! She's very thick-skinned. Posts on an Internet forum aren't likely to get her wound up.
Element2082
Oct 15 2007, 1:24 pm
QUOTE (broadway_pixie @ Oct 15 2007, 2:18 pm)

English is my first language, but i prefer to say I speak American, technically English is spoken in English people. America speaks English differently than the English. =)
I am also on other forums. So i am familiar with varied opinions. i don't necessarily dislike differences in opinions, but rather them being posted in a rude manner.
English spoken in India is still English btw. Even if Keydeck disagrees hehe

(Other examples include French spoken in Morrocco (sp?) )
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