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My roommate says I'm "unzumutbar" (unacceptable)

Just because I let cream go one day past expiry

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MollyB
Couldn't find the thread for expired edibles.

So here's a picture of my most recent Unzumutbarkeit, or rather, of the heroically contained contamination.

I knew my flatmate was a little enthusiastic for discarding packaged foods on the day before they expire, but hadn't realized she felt this strongly. If I'd known, I'd have re-packaged things ... what if she's been miffed this whole time, b/c I've routinely let things go a few days?

Any food scientists out there? What would happen to a bottle of cream with a screw-on cap if it went way, way past the expiry date?
Small Town Boy
dict.cc suggests "unacceptable", which I think captures the essence of the situation quite well. My commiserations for having to live with such a German German!
silty1
Maybe you should submit it to passive-aggressivenotes.com wink.gif
Mariposa
You've gotta be kidding me! How dare you use whipping cream after it's expired! tongue.gif
Welcome to the crappy roommate club! wink.gif
BadDoggie
Dairy is good for no fewer than three days past the SELL BY date. It's called "MHB" because it's the Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum -- the absolute minimum. Except that since stores can sell it up to that date, the product has to be good for at least a few more days. This goes for meat as well, though since they take it up to the limit you'll see beef starting to go brown at the edges even if it's in an oxygen-free package (Schutzatmosphäre). Tell your roommate to fuck off. Don't leave a note, do this directly. Since your roomie is clearly incapable of acting like a normal fucking adult, she definitely won't argue with you if you confront her in person.

Many items have an MHB simply as a way for the manufacturer to ensure continued sales. As an example I give you honey, something which is edible after 3,000 years' storage in an urn. And yet the shit has an MHB which legally forces restaurants to use up or throw out stocks within a period of time around six months. Fucking sugar packets have it, too. Some lower-turn-over items have unrealistically low MHBs for this reason as well.

woof.
KofferInBerlin
Bloody hell, you let foodstuffs expire in the fridge? You're lucky the Enviromental Hygiene Squad didn't zap your neighbourhood from the nearest Zap-o-Neighbourhood satellite. No wonder your flatmate is up in arms. Next time you pull a trick like that, prepare to be escorted to the nearest border and cast into a dumper full of yesterday's bread.
hepat
On the other side of things... I had a co-worker who was vegan. Her boyfriend was not, and he MADE her sniff the expired dairystuffs in the fridge to see if they were still good.

And she married him.

*sigh*
Kay
QUOTE (MollyB @ Oct 11 2007, 7:35 pm) *
Couldn't find the thread for expired edibles.

I don't think you risk being merged since it was part of the do-all-foreigners-eat-watermelon-with-a-spoon thread, but if you want to have another laugh, here it is: Flagging yourself as a foreigner.

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Him and expiration dates. Anyone else have experiences where Germans are extremely wary of eating anything even on the day it expires?
Mariposa
I thought we concluded (or maybe it was just me tongue.gif) that that's nothing to do with Germanness. I absolutely eat yogurt if it is a week past the expiration date if it's not moldy. tongue.gif Milk can become very old in my fridge too (since I don't really like it that much/often)...

Speaking of expiration dates...
Ham and other similar meat products here [Spain] always seems to say on the packaging, consume within 48 hours of opening... Now ham usually (at my grocery store) comes in packs of 250gr. How on earth can a single person eat that much ham in 48 hours? So guess what, I just eat it for as long as it lasts, not overly long, but definitely not 48 hours... Though here I am a bit more wary with products that have to be cooled because I have the impression they are not cooled well on the way to the grocery store.
MollyB
QUOTE (silty1 @ Oct 11 2007, 7:44 pm) *
Maybe you should submit it to passive-aggressivenotes.com

I've submitted a few of her special messages to the site, but they probably lost something in my suggested translations, or weren't clear out of context. The slow-worms admonition was my favorite.

Given the p-a-ness of my own missives, such as my first letter to the house owner cum lawyer, I don't exactly have the cleanest of shirts in this petty drama.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Oct 11 2007, 8:38 pm) *
Dairy is good for no fewer than three days past the SELL BY date. It's called "MHB" because it's the Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum -- the absolute minimum.

Actually, it's MHD, for Datum. Which I only knew b/c UnGroom had a client who was a manufacturer of a food ingredient which could go bad before the MHD. UG started using this ingredient all the time (talk about dedication) and it seemed the MHD was a batch-tracking system for the manufacturer rather than an meaningful indication of shelf life. I guess that's the opposite extreme of meaningless expiry dates.

QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Oct 11 2007, 8:38 pm) *
Since your roomie is clearly incapable of acting like a normal fucking adult, she definitely won't argue with you if you confront her in person.

You've really got her number! She sometimes lectures me in person, and repeats her argument once or twice, but I hold my own and she always skulks away.

QUOTE (KofferInBerlin @ Oct 11 2007, 11:14 pm) *
escorted to the nearest border and cast into a dumper full of yesterday's bread.

Ugh, day-old baguettes ...

QUOTE (hepat @ Oct 11 2007, 11:25 pm) *
co-worker who was vegan. Her boyfriend was not, and he MADE her sniff the expired dairystuffs in the fridge to see if they were still good.

And she married him.

*sigh*

Oh, well, if thoughtfulness and respect aren't big in her book, sounds perfect. I had a vegan flatmate who made us wrap everything non-vegan in foil or paper or something opaque, so she wouldn't have to see it.

QUOTE (Kay @ Oct 11 2007, 11:30 pm) *
I don't think you risk being merged since it was part of the do-all-foreigners-eat-watermelon-with-a-spoon thread, but if you want to have another laugh, here it is: Flagging yourself as a foreigner.

Not merged, but what's with the topic edit?
Thanks for the link.
Katrina
QUOTE (Mariposa @ Oct 12 2007, 2:51 am) *
ham comes in packs of 250gr. How on earth can a single person eat that much ham in 48 hours?

Errr... I have no idea.
*dabs mouth with napkin*
Kay
QUOTE (MollyB @ Oct 12 2007, 2:09 pm) *
what's with the topic edit?

It's probably certainly a moderator.
Jonnyboy
I have an old tradition of buying food then chucking it out when it goes off. To warn me off doing this, I left the last two overdue yoghurts in my fridge whey they still belong, now proudly bearing the date of 7 Oct 2006

It has worked a treat...
Kay
Shouldn't they have exploded by now?
Keydeck
QUOTE (Jonnyboy @ Oct 12 2007, 6:03 pm) *
I left the last two overdue yoghurts in my fridge whey they still belong, now proudly bearing the date of 7 Oct 2006

Sounds like you are really clinging on to the local culture.
Darkknight
Tell'em to fuck off, and kick'em out /find another place to stay...
MollyB
Sounds like a harsh way to treat those yoghurts - why should he kick them out now? Like Keydeck says, they bring a touch - a very solid touch - of culture to Jonny's home.
NOFXmike
I like to name things in my fridge, the gf hates that...though I don't get any notes, they disappear these days though ohmy.gif

...it's so sad...my pets just disappear *sniffle*
Punchbear
Does Monkeybint also refuse to drink milk from a glass because it leaves a film behind and then freak when others do it? Or have a pathological aversion to toast because of crumbs and cancer? Drink Bionade by the litre? Have a lifetimes' supply of post-it notes?

Just scribble the phone number of a therapist on the note and then stick it up on her door.
Mariposa
Hey PB, post-it notes are great! tongue.gif
Punchbear


Not suggesting anything, but...
Mariposa
Well besides the fact that that does look kind of cool and like someone had too much time on their hands, but very cool biggrin.gif I'll leave that to someone else.
And why is there a post-it missing on that box?
phoenix-rose
They missed the side of this blue chair too...

Ahhh I love it.

Meanwhile, I'm sorry about your roomie. If they only knew some of the things I eat - LOL!!

Tell them that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger. So, you have a better immune system than she does because you eat stuff past the expiration date, and like to make sure it stays that way!

~Rose
Mariposa
Or refer her to this Wiki article (I knew there would be one on MHD, there is one on everything!

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum

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Das Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum (MHD) ist ein auf Lebensmittelverpackungen anzugebendes Datum, das angibt, bis zu welchem Termin ein Lebensmittel bei sachgerechter Aufbewahrung (insbesondere Einhaltung der im Zusammenhang mit dem MHD genannten Lagertemperatur) auf jeden Fall ohne wesentliche Geschmacks- und Qualitätseinbußen sowie gesundheitliches Risiko zu essen oder zu trinken ist. Da es sich um ein Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum handelt, ist das Lebensmittel in der Regel auch nach dem angegebenen Datum noch verzehrbar.
Hutcho
In which case, you should ask your room mate to replace the dairy products she destroyed by removing them from the fridge and putting them on the bench.
MollyB
OMG - =Monkey= bagged the dairy and left the note. They both have loopy-girly handwriting, but I hadn't realized they share an MHD-fixation.
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