The Australian rugby team

Apparently there are Australians in the semi final.

There's a linesman and the ref!

Honestly - the English are the absolute worst winners. You think that we'd be starting threads on England losing if the result was reversed?? Seriously - go and enjoy your win, but mocking the losing team shows a complete lack of class and sportsmanship.

Now fuck off...

agreed. bad taste thread.

Now where was that joke thread about Maddie?

It's not bad taste as such - just poor sportsmanship...

whingeing aussies...

Not good this. Not noticed any Aussies whining about it, respect.

I love how the only pic shown so far is of an English has been. Hardly looking promising for next stage if thats your lot eh?

Give the Poms a break. It's not often they get the chance to gloat. We take the piss out of their sporting teams all the time.

See - you don't get it do you? Who's whinging?

Crap thread, the Aussie team have shown great sportsmanship after, as have the Aussie fans. The only arse was O'Niel and Tiquiri but the rest have shown themselves as true representatives of the sport.

Take pride in the win but dont gloat. Not the done thing.

Agree with you both ... real sportsmen want nothing to do with this "banter".

What a load of bollocks!

Taking the piss out of the Aussies is one of our great sporting traditions

Interesting editing of the original thread subtitle, "Let's take the piss out of the Aussies a bit" --> "Let's make fun of the Aussies a bit". (Not sure if I have the original entirely correct, but you get the idea.)

What's interesting about the title change? The sentiment is basically the same but without the use of the word "piss" which can be done without in topic titles. Anyway, the thread is still unsportsmanlike and basically a pile of bollocks. Celebrate a win by all means, but no need to be a gloating twat about it. Is it any wonder people dislike when certain teams win.

Does it make you feel like a big man focussing on the losers? You are a bad winner. You (and too many others like you) are the reason that many people (including me) support anyone but England.

It's not a sporting tradition I was aware of.

To use your words Bollocks. Even the picture you posted proves that. Is that daliglow going "la la la you loser convict!" I think not. He's over there offering commiserations, a hand of friendship, a good word for a great and fair game between two proud teams. Did Flintoff go over and laugh in the face of the Aussie batsman at the 05 ashes when they lost the test in the last over. Nope. Why? Because sportsmen dont do that shit. They know but for the grace of god that could be them.

Taking the piss out of the Aussies losing is one of plastic fans greatest unsportsmanly traditions.

Just remember we will very likely lose next week.

Blimey... you lot are so serious... "Bad Winner"? maybe - but between you and me we don't often get the chance so I like to make the most of it when the opportunity presents itself.

To summarise - this thread is meant to be a bit of fun and if you're not able to treat it as such, I suggest you fuck off to another thread about the economy or something and leave the rest of us to take the piss out of each other in peace.

this thread is not cricket

I don't care much about rugby or even have a clue as to whats going on in the event, but what a thread. At least it provides a quick way to see who the a$$holes are.

lazybum, as has already been pointed out, you can have fun and enjoy your win without belittling the losing team. Admit you were a twat for starting the thread and ask a mod to delete it.

Excellently put... well done to the Englishmen on the site for rebuking this nonsense...

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

--Rudyard Kipling

How can you honestly take the piss out of the most succesful nation in rugby world cup history anyhow? Forget the two world cups to their name they have also constantly featured in the quarter's, semi's and world cup finals as well. Congratulations England, your forwards truly turned up and smashed our front row and won the game for you. However unless i was watching another game it was another well contested quarter final from the aussies only going down by 2 points.

yep great contest. Forward dominated play is never the prettiest to watch but it was a bloody exciting game!

With that attitude, you can't be surprised the next time you walk into a pub and everyone who's not English is supporting the opposition...


The rest of who???

I think there is a touch of oversensitivism here. I mean it was just a pretty weak joke that started this thread.
Having said that though, 80 minutes of scrapping does induce a lot of respect for the opposition and by extension sportsmanship, which maybe can only be really understood by people who have done it regularly (which for me was really only my school years).

Interesting that you think that "piss" is in poor form in a topic title but use "tw*t" in your post.

It's not just minutes. It's days, months, years or decades. Doesnt matter what the sport, what the team, the commitment needed and shown by all players deserves a bit more respect, and something casual fans and band wagon jumpers dont realise, let alone non-sports people.
I personaly celebrate a great english performance that put a wee bit of pride back in my english heart. In fact after 15 minutes all the English guy's I was with on the day agreed, win or lose this performance is an inspirartional step up for the team and it's supporters. I don't need nor like to see this sort of shit. It's like the "anybody but the English" attitude. It's distasteful and spiteful to celebrate someone losing.

I said, "in topic titles", not within a post. I consider what goes into a post different to what is used in the titles.

WhatEVER

@JR - the mods always remove swearing from topic titles (but not generally from the actual posts)
it's in the forum usage guidelines somewhere

Interesting read.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...5013576,00.html

Sums up a few things, that are relevant to this thread, quite well.

true that. I so totally hate listening to aussies crowing about beating us on a regular basis, that I figure the only way to stop it is by making a point of not doing it the other way !!!

Thank you for that canaryman, it sums it up nicely.

Especially "Banter, good banter, the sort that should decorate every great sporting occasion", which is what I thought might spread to this thread.

banter is before. gloating is after.

To be honest the Australians have more reason to gloat than us. They deported Rolf Harris who went on to have pop-chart success in the UK with "Jake the peg, Two little boys, Puppy dogs breath (I think that was a "double-a" hit) and a quite brilliant rendition of "Stairway to Heaven" with his "wobble-board".

He is still alive and well, making T.V appearances, painting his "Rolf-a-roos" whilst raking in millions that keep him in style in Sonning-on-Thames.

If there was a reason to seriously dislike Aussies, it is for letting Rolf leave Australia on a one-way ticket to the U.K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy5KjaAS7nY

Led Zeppelin eat your heart out.

I had wondered what happened to Rolf Harris. He was quite famous in Australia when I was young. Then he disappeared for years and showed up again on "The Money or the Gun" with Andrew Denton in the early 90's singing his version of "Stairway to Heaven". Then he was gone again.

I didn't know what had happened to him or where he had gone until about 7 years ago, when I lived in the UK for a few months. One day I turned on the telly and "Animal Hospital" was on...

Hazza. Now you know where he lives, do you want to send a "hitman" over. I would chip-in a couple of euros.

@Lazybum I don't know why everybody suddenly turned on you. I'm an Aussie and I say bring it on!

Yes it's bad sportsmanship if your playing in a game and mock the losing team, but this is the Rugby World Cup. Its entertainment and the friendly piss taking is all part of it, especially between the Aussies, Kiwis and Pomms.

I think its crazy that there are some Aussies who are still crying about the loss and can't take a bit of a joke. Forget about the English being good winners, we should be good loosers and be able to take a bit of stick.

Admittedly we haven't had much practice at losing at sports that might be the problem.

I don't understand the offense at all the gloating. If sports are the bloodless combat that make civilized society possible, the absence of gloating would be, well, too civilized.

Hazza...do you know this bloke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJW_8yZIP0w...ted&search=

I think you lot deported him too.

If you read the comments on the video, it really is frightening.

I really don't mind a bit of friendly ribbing or a bit of gloating after the game.

I just think that it's bad sportsmanship to not direct your energy to celebrating your team (or country), but instead in making fun (or taking the piss out) of the team you beat.

And I think we have been good losers (overall - there are always exceptions). There are always going to be a few wankers, but overall we've congratulated the English, we've conceeded we were beaten by a better team on the day, we haven't thrown blame at the refereeing or the conditions, or the draw.

Thanks Vanman,

Some of this lot need an sense of humour injection

I have been fortunate enough to share a pint or two with Rolf Harris. Lovely bloke

his parents were Welsh, so he must be. He's married to a Welsh lass as well.

Another reason to visit Australia (besides the fact that you know Rolf will not be there)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7037443.stm

Superb!!!

The indigenous natives of Australia probably did not think so...


Original words to "Tie me Kangaroo down"

Still he said sorry later, left for the UK and introduced all to the didgerdoo and wobble board.

Gee, thanks.

Here is another good reason to visit Australia. From the naked rugby league.

I am still getting good mileage out of Englands 5-1 football win in Munich in 2001, and I still get reminded at every opportunity by my German colleagues of how bad we are at sport. It is part and parcel of keeping company with people not who were not born in your home nation. I enjoy it on the right level. 99.99% of us are not ever going to take part in the events themselves so a little humourous jousting with "the opposition" is as close as we get to competition.

What has happened here is lazybum was after a bit of what he thought was going to be good natured banter, and ran into a wall of people who take their sport probably a lot more seriously that he does. I think the typical Englishman is nowhere near as knowledgable about Cricket and Rugby, and probably sport in general, as the typical Aussie or Kiwi. I think they generally don't care as much either..Maybe it is hard to care about losing so much when you do it so often, who knows..

@ Lazybum. Shame you posted the "Fuck off to another thread post" as your first post was surely good natured, and I think some people just took it the way.

All credit to Austrailian,Kiwi & Saffa Sportmen who are some of the best in the world, and the people who are some of the most best natured there are. Beating such solid teams in any way, shame or form is a huge result for England so let us enjoy that and the bad jokes that go with it. I am quite sure it won't be long until we once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again and payback time comes around.

@ Hazza "With that attitude, you can't be surprised the next time you walk into a pub and everyone who's not English is supporting the opposition..."

It's not surprising mate, but it is disappointing that everyone seems to support 1) Their country of birth, and 2) Whoever is playing against England. England bashing just seems so fucking sheep like at times. Everyone hates England because everyone hates England. It would be nice to here an Aussie/Kiwi/Scot/Irishman say "I hope England beat France" as lets face it we have a lot more in common than either of us do with the Frenchies. If it were Australia vs Japan in a World Cup qualifier I can't think of many English who would be cheering on the Japenese.

LIAB. Er, may be a good reason for you to visit, for me I would be scared of being locked up on a spurious charge and finding the chap in your photo was sharing a cell with me. (Though I am sure he is a thoroughly decent chap)

AND his name appears to be "June"...