Myself wants to help you

"I" is a subject pronoun.
I went to the store.
Joe and I work in the same building.
Signing documents is something I hate to do.
I am called BadDoggie.

"Me" is an object pronoun.
The person who went to the store was me.
Julie asked Joe and me the same question.
She gave me the documents to Sign.
The person using the nickname "BadDoggie" is really me.

"Myself" is a reflexive pronoun. That means it reflects back to a previously used or implied pronoun. It does not and cannot stand alone in English. "Myself" can only appear in a sentence where the pronoun I or me was already used:

I went to the store myself. (because someone else I'd asked to do so didn't)
I myself don't care for black pudding. OR I don't care for black pudding myself.

"Myself" is not a subject:
Myself went to the store.

"Myself" is not an object:
She gave myself the documents to sign.

Stop it already. You sound like a twat when you say "myself" instead of "I" or "me". Honest.

woof.

Yourself is funny. LOL

Common Errors in English

try talking to Joan Armatrading

thanks for lesson 1 when will lesson 2 follow? I'll stay tuned

my English has turned to crap since I learned German. is it "Jim and me went to the Alps" or "Jim and I went to the Alps"?

if you want to be a pedantic-pants then it should be "Jim and I..."
but if you want to just be a normal, well-balanced person then you could say either
preferably the former, actually, just to get the grammar nazis nicely wound up

I would say "Jim and I"

Than this poem is all wrong

Tim and me, a hunting we went.
Found three whores in a mountain tent.
Them being three and we being two,
I bucked one and Tim bucked two!

My grammar teacher from Cambridge used to get so angry at people who said stuff like "Jim and me", and she would take whole points off if people wrote that on a test.
_{we used to call her the Cambridge witch}

this thread makes myself want to touch me

the rule of the thumb is if you take off the "Jim and.." bit, you know how it should be
ie. you'd say "I went to the Alps" and not "me went to the Alps"

my mum would smack for such a mistake!

Usually, if you try the sentence without the "Jim and" bit and would say I (ie. I went to the Alps), then it's still I when you add the other person...

Thank you BD. Finally somebody that understands. I fucking HATE people using 'myself' and 'yourself' because they think it sounds posh, or legal or something. It doesn't. It sounds fucking stupid.

I think the 'yourself' thing sounds kind of irish ie "you're a good man yourself"

if you want to start being a *really* pedantic pain in the arse you could of course start insisting that posters write "it is I" rather than "it's me"

Let's be very fair here - me, myself or I. Misuse, colloquial use, grammatically spot on use...it all becomes completely fucking irrelevant when some cock whacks "oder" at the end of a sentence. Fix that shit first. Priorities people, please.

One finds it all rather difficult to follow an American lecturing on the subject of one's own mother tongue.

don for president!

And well she should.


Here's the bit that I didn't include in the original posting:
Using "myself" does not make you sound clever or important. It makes you look like a fucking twat trying to impress people with your incredible literacy skills when you are, in fact, demonstrating just how fucking incompetent you are when it comes to basic language usage. You display your desperation for the esteem you think you'll earn by using more profligate oratory.


That's correct usage. Note how the "yourself" is preceded by "you['re]".

woof.

Especially someone who writes: "Stop it already." What language is that?

er...cuntish?

Was very recently in a central London car dealership - the salesman introduced himself, handed me his business card and said 'This is myself'. This is myself??? No it's not - it's your fucking business card you twat. Not only was he wearing an Estate Agent Special suit (i.e. slim fitting and with a loud lining) but he spoke English like a total and utter cunt, presumably because he felt that, since he was selling nice cars, he should try and emulate (badly) a member of the Royal family. Dickhead.

So Jimbo, did you buy that Fiesta or not?

Nah, I fucked him off and bought a Fiat Uno second hand down the auction. £250. Lovely.

Good man yourself, BadDoggie. Common usage in the Barony.
Check out Flann.

Damn, I would love to know which post set him off.

That got my/me/myselfs laugh of the day...thanks

Are you sure about this? I'm pretty sure this still should be in the nominative case, at least in German it would be, which should apply in both languages:

"die Person, die einkaufen gegangen war, war ich" and not "die Person, die einkaufen gegangen war, war mich"
therefore: the person who went to the store was I
the direct "object" takes action, which it doesn't in this case.

I always learned that you should be able to switch the sentence around to see which fits, i.e., "I was the person who went to the store"

Edit: Topsy already said this.

I personally would never say "the person who went to the store was I" but I would say also me instead of I

But would you also say "Me was the person whon went to the shop?" or rather "I was ..."

Yes, because it's colloquial. But grammatically incorrect. Then again, this rule would also apply to:


German: "Die Person, die den Spitznamen "BadDoggie" verwendet bin ich."
English: "The person using the nickname BadDoggie am really I"

but that's just weird. I don't know, man.

I have to admit to consciously making this grammatical mistake because people look at me strangely if I say it correctly: "It's me" when identifying myself. When someone called and asked for me, I used to say "This is she", which is correct, but quite often makes for a strange pause while people are trying to figure out what you said (at least if they are phone sales people). Or you say "It is I" -- which sounds SO WAS VON snobby, oder?

How about asking 'What age are you?' or 'What age is he?'. I've only ever heard Irish people say this.

Just a little enrichment from Gaelic my dear. An enhancement of your Saxon tongue if you like.
Do you really like someone asking: "How OLD are you?"

"On a related point, those who continue to announce “It is I� have traditional grammatical correctness on their side, but they are vastly outnumbered by those who proudly boast “it’s me!� There’s not much that can be done about this now. Similarly, if a caller asks for Susan and Susan answers “This is she,� her somewhat antiquated correctness is likely to startle the questioner into confusion."

http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/myself.html

So "It is me" is grammatically wrong.

Grammar tips from someone who says "Woof" at the end of each sentence, in real time too !!! I´ll stick to my hard learned sometimes mistaken, mostly correct English then.

It is also likely that if the majority already uses me/I "wrongly" it will at some point become right. Grammar (grammar rules) is (are) not static, it changes (they change) over time.

You seem to have a bee butterfly in your bonnet today.

Wow, BD is giving a free English lesson. Now this proves my microeconomic professor all wrong. The only thing myself remember from his class so long ago he said to I "there's no such thing as a free lunch"

There IS no such thing as a free lunch, since whatever useful info. which may be found in the majority of BD's posts is inextricably interwoven with his attitude!

this...

Harry Enfield - Jurgen the German (full version)

explains it I think (methinks??)

Well I dont care.

I have been spkoen good England since I was a children.

Part 2???

I just think that the days of good English has went