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Applying for a "Niederlassungserlaubnis" - Germany

How 5 years "Aufenthaltserlaubnis" is calculated

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ramsam
Dear Friends,

Please advise me as it seems I am in some strange situation regarding my Visa:

1) I came to Germany on 20-Nov-2002 on IT-Green-card with 3-months Visa.

2) And on 20-Dec-2002, I got Aufenthaltserlaubnis which was valid till 30-Oct-2007.

Then in Sept-2007, I applied for NE as I thought that I am about to satisfy 5 years stay condition for NE and application process for NE also takes some 4-6 weeks.

But the authorities told me that they can not give NE now because I have not completed 5 years of stay and they have extended my Aufenthaltserlaubnis for 1 more year.

Please share your views in this regards.

Thanks in advance,
Ramsam
Carm
reapply after you have been here the 5 years. They are very picky about the dates.
Darkknight
Same happened to me. Bring them proof of every Registration (Anmeldung) and show them every stamp, every permit and every other official document
you can find to proove you have been registered/living/working in Germany since 20-Nov-02. Perhaps they missed one of the permits/stamps in your PP.
DDBug
You applied in september although the five year requirement was not met until november... you applied 2 months too early.

Gotta love the system.
Carm
wait til Nov 20th, not the 19th, but the 20th, as DDBug and I know, they are picky about dates.
DanHessen
In my experience, if you pay enough taxes it's impossible to get thrown out. For awhile they were sending me gentle reminders, asking if it wasn't too much trouble for me to stop by and get my new extension.
ramsam
Dear Friends

Thankyou very much for your support.
kitkat64
I'm just about to go to the KVR and apply for my Niederlassungserlaubnis (unlimited residence/work permit), but I have no idea what I need for this?

I know that both residence and work permit are in the same place now (KVR) and I have been on to the different websites, but in terms of evidence, I have no idea what I need. Previously, I have brought a completed Work Permit form signed by my company but I do not think I need this anymore because I want an unlimited work permit too (I've been here 6 years and working for that long for the same company).

So, for anyone who has done this recently, like Ramsam, what kind of supporting paperwork did you need?

Thanks for the help!
Carm
I did it in the spring, and they will give you paper work to fill out, and you need passphoto, and 3 months pay slips, rental contract and a smile. Was painless, but you have to ask everything... oh, and you have to pay 50% upfront, before they process the paperwork.
kitkat64
Hmmm, rental contract is the problem. I wonder what they accept as proof of home ownership? And I have to take more pictures...ugh.
I will just give them my old pictures...nothing's changed...OK, OK, I have more wrinkles, but not many.
ramsam
Dear kitkat64,

Please have a look on this link:

http://trust7faq.wik.is/Visa/Niederlassung...nent_Residence)

Regards
kitkat64
Thanks Carm and ramsam - the link answered most of my questions. I guess I will just give them a copy of the mortgage agreement with the bank instead of the rental agreement.

Thank you!!!
Guy
That might not be enough, the link ramsam gave mentions 'Grundbuchauszug', which is an extract from the state record of property ownership. You may have been provided a copy by the builder or previous owner that you bought the house from.
kitkat64
Thanks Guy, I just emailed my boyfriend asking him if we have this or do I have to go to the Rathaus to get it? I hope we have it.

Now if I can just find my Anmeldungs paper from when I moved from München to Unterschleissheim - I know I have that somewhere...

I will be so happy when all this is done with and I never have to do it again.
Allershausen
Getting a copy of the Grundbuch shouldn't be a problem. You should be able to get it from the Rathaus or at least they will tell you which "Amt" and where it is ,to get it. It may even be called the Grundbuchamt, I've done it before and it just costs some money, can't remember how much, but I don't think it's a fortune. You can get a copy of the your anmeldung from the Rathaus as well, don't forget to take your passport.
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