Offensive Italians at the Oktoberfest

Ok guys and gals, we are nearly there and the O'Fest starts in a week.

However, i have been chatting to more than a few guys and, especially, gals regarding the activities of the Italians during the fest and i make no apology for deliberately targeting them in this thread.

Brits are drunken assholes, Yanks are loud and Aussies just well over the top but it is always the Italians who cause the girls the problems.

One lady in particular was last year banged into the back of a stall by two Italians and groped by them.

Now, if you were to do that on any street in Munich at any time of the year outside of Oktoberfest, you would be put in jail for sexual assault! What is the difference at O'Fest time?

So, what is the answer to the problem? Do the fest security, ( Black Sherrifs et al ), take onboard a policy of no Italians in the tent or extreme prejudice against them if they even breathe incorrectly?

Or, do the Police get involved and circulate through the Wies'n, ready to apprehend these animals?

Very concerned that funding for the Women's Safe Haven will drop after this year as it seems not to be an issue to either the tent owners or the Bavarian Governmet.

Anyone got any good ideas?

I have found a good right hook, or a fast grab and pull usually shuts them up fast.
Amazing, they think because a dirndl gives you mega boobs that that gives them the right to grab you.

Wow, these guys are so disgusting. I guess having some TT guys come along to the O'fest would prevent them from grabbing you?

Unless the TTer is doing the grabbin.

love when they try to pretend to be really drunk, need to lean on you copping a feel at the same time or drooling into your cleavage!

I didnt drool I just needed a spot to put my shot glass.

I cant go to the wiesn this year, how depressing...

when are you coming back to Mü so we can do that again?

Me mate headbutted an Italian after he started groping his gf. It seemed to do the trick.

I had an Italian pass out and take a nose dive right down my dirndl top last year on the sbahn... Had me pegged against the window and although he had a few friends there who could have helped me, they decided it would be more beneficial to get their mobiles out and photo-document the event. Perhaps he wasn't copping a feel/drool so much as just trying to pick out the bits of kebab that I'd spilled all over myself in a drunken effort to nourish myself after a long hard day at the Wies'n.

I´ve never had a bad experience with an Italian at O-fest. Had quite a nice one once, actually---

maybe, but I still personally giggle the other time three drunk italians were staring and gauking at me in my dirndl, and they walked into a pole! Poor one in the middle got the worse of it. They all had their arms around each other to help support themselves and pow, into the pole. Sometimes you just gotta giggle when men are so stupid to stare at you and they hurt themselves, like the cyclist riding past, but still looking at you and runs into somebody or something. Kind of an ego stroke. Alot of the Italian guys think they have the right to chat you up, propose to you, grop, fondle or generally harrass you because you have boobs, a smile, hair, heck, basically because you are a women.

But on the other side, we (the Hash) has a table next to a bunch of Italians every year, and don't have problems with them really, but most are in couples, mabybe that is the key.

I can only repeat the advice I give to my clients: Ladies, use the buddy system. Do not go anywhere alone, keep your wits about you, and if someone grabs you scream bloody murder and go for the instep. A sharp rap on the tarsal bones generally provides immediate relief. I made the mistake of going to the ladies room alone last year, and an Italian made the mistake of spanking me. I chased him into the men's room to the great amusement of the witnessing crowd.

What was he like?

Speaking from the dress (kilt) wearing contingent (male) I get groped to death as well all the time. You would be amazed just how many prim and proper old ladies try to grab a handful, it can be pretty annoying.

Last year some guy grabbed me and tried to drag me out of the tent. Yelling doesn't really do to much as all the people around me just stood there watching even when I was oviously trying to fight him off.l

This is the reason why I carry a pepper spray with me!!

First Siamese beer drinking twin they had ever seen.

I agree with SeaKing on this...not just grabbing a handful but also sticking a digi cam up the kilt to see if you were really Scottish...myself and Sarabyrd had a conversation about this while having a lot of beers this afternoon and the prospect of going to the gay night for the fest at (no idea what tent or date) with me wearing a kilt came up, as we know a few actively gay members on here and have no problems with any of them, i would actually feel safer on a gay night in a fest tent with a proper kilt on (the gays with kilts tend to be some total crap kilts and you can spot the non scotishness)...the 55 year old granny lifting up your kilt ...it happens a lot

Got to agree with Scogs 100% there, the M.I.Ks are safer in the company of gays ( who never touch) than we are when we walk past a table full of "Blue Rinses" from NRW. Dont get me wrong it can be a great way to break the ice, but I don´t plunge my hand down ladies blouses without asking first. And I have warm hands at least!

Now I am worried, my Dirndl has tartan on the top!

What do you do with the Sporran?

SB's right...don't go the loos alone, lots of dodgy men hang out by the women's loos and will grab or lunge out at women. there are also stories of women being followed into the loos outside too.
& don't be afraid to shove/punch any leery men away if they give you any unwanted attention.

Pas, thanks for the idea! ladies don't wear sporrans but I could use my sons mini one as a purse!

Sounds like the dagger down the sock might come in handy for a few as well?

as I already stated somewhere else, i don't think
that italians ( as I am actually, at least for one half) are particularly dangerous,
they can be annoying for a girl , this i have to admitt, but that's all ... I think that
in most of the cases, turns out to be just very funny if you deal with them in the proper way,
and just not feeling offended a priori ... Anyway, looks like there are major concerns so maybe I am
wrong, and then just banned them out ... that's democracy, witout any racial prejudice, right ???
ciao

alE

oh sorry, i didn't realize that the author
of the topic is british ( my second citizenship, ...),
that's making everything even more funny ...
You should be then banned from every pub on earth, using
the same principle ...

have a nice one ...

ahahah! this thread is so funny from the italian point of view... i'm 100% italian, even if i'm not the stereotyped italian (too shy) and i've never grab any girl at the oktfest
I like the way people speak about italians: all drunk assholes in desperate need of big boobs... but... weren't them all gays?!?

girls, one advice... prepare the pepper spray and forget about the dirndl, and maybe better going drinking to the gay tent... italians are coming... bbrrrr... who can stop them?
hehehe

Why should they have to carry pepper sprays and not wear a dirndl, why can't your fellow countrymen learn to behave themselves. This is not a new problem, I'm afraid the Italians have earned their reputation, in the same way that British football hooligans earned theirs, they changed so should you!

I knew this thread was going to get f-cked up.

I guess the Italian groping is significantly more offensive than the British tactic of staring at your cleavage in an increasingly de-focussed manner as the night draws on

"I don't mean to be pershonal or nuffinc but you've got a really cracking pair of norks there darlin". "hic."

And in all of these cases it's the minority causing the problem and the majority then getting the reputation.

Whatever gave you that idea? I thought it started out very reasonably. Blame the Italians I say.

as a practising buddhist, i would advise that the most spiritually correct response would be to knee them in the nuts.

I usually wear jeans , I'm a guy - and I get felt up - I think to be honest that the over-friendliness is the main attraction of the thing.

Yes it is, but the football hooligans got themselves banned and learned their lesson, well more or less. Do we have to ban the Italians before they learn, after all this seems to sum up their attitude nicely:


It's only girls who are bothered so that's ok then!

hey come on,
i am tellying that in most of the cases,
italians can bother girls with stupid comments and so on but please
do you think this will end up in a serious danger for a girl? They (we) can be annoying,
but i never saw any of us grabbing asses or so ... if not allowed to do that ...
Did you guys really honestly see a situation where a girl was seriously offended or in danger
because of italians ?? I found most of them (at least the class of italians coming to oktoberfest)
embarassing/funny ...
Also young germans coming to italy for their holydays behave really like idiots, being drunk all the time and so on but I wouldn't ban
them cause at the end they are not really dangerous, just embarassing and idiotic ...
Come on that's just exagerate ...
I think that a lot of girls had actually different experience with italians met at the oktoberfest ...
Anyway, anyone can think whatever so ...

alE

radiation, I was attacked - yes, spanking a woman is an attack! - by an Italian, I cannot change the fact. I felt molested but was able to defend myself and retaliate. No man of any nationality should take such liberties with any woman at any place at any time.
I have also danced in the aisles with Italians and had a wonderful time, the difference being mutual consent.

well, you have obviously not had to deal like us `girls` at the Fest, just because I wear a dirndl, doesn`t give any guy the right to grab my boobs, or stick his hand in my crotch! And 95% of the time its been the Italians!

ok, so i can just agree with you ...
what i mean is that I still think (or maybe just wish to believe) that such a beviour
is not tipical for the average italian that you can meet there .. Anyway, i am really open to change my mind,
i will watch out again, but last here i didn't have such an impression ...
I wish you all a great wiesn time, and hope for myself to don't have to be ashamed for italian behavoiur there ( apart from mine of course )

ale

I resent this thread...this thread is wrong

Didn't Italy give us Pizza, great wine, sometimes great footballers (who dive constantly), Lambos and Ferraris and finally Italian women?
It's wrong to forget the pizza!...How could you all do that?
(Ok the Japanese gave us Mario...but hey while the Italians were developing Pizza they should have had Mario copyrighted...their loss)

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Ughhhhh people are too serious here...Its just a forum guys!

*prepares for very serious reply from a TT addict*

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hey Element! you forgot about enormous D&G sunglasses that italians wear constantly...
and of course you also forget about our beloved hero...
hehe

and what about our beloved song
PO PO PO PO PO POOOOOOOOO (Seven Nation Army, The white stripes), adopted to celebrate
the DESERVED victory in the wm ... flames now ...

how could we all survive without that ...

I went over and tried to chat with the Italians at that table two years ago. No couples as far as I could see, just a big group of people with the same blue t-shirts on (in case they got lost or forgot who they were, I suppose). We had no common language between us- none of them could speak a word of either English or German. Using the universal language of beer, we rapped for about a half hour. Seemed like decent folks.

that's why seven nation army became the official worldcup italian song: singing POO PO PO PO PO POO PO one doesn't need to know any english word!

(I now personally hate the song...)

There's only one way to deal with random Italians at Oktoberfest:





Recognize the sweatshirt from the above photo? This guy told us he was a profi footballer. I believe it - look at those gams! Lechin' goes both ways, I guess.

Hey people!

I'm a newbie on this website, on this topic and yeah, on Oktoberfest (this year will be my 1st time).

I'm italian and i read this thread as i was curios to see how far the stereotyping can go.

I must agree with you, some italians do behave like that - even worst as far as i know.

But please do not make a generalization of a whole population!!!

I will come to the oktoberfest as it's one on the things i want to see before i die... and i'll come for the beer only!!!

If i want to grab some boobs, there are plenty of places even in munich to do so, dont'ya think?

Especially in Munich so it seems...

don't worry, they aren't generalisations of the whole population. Just about those that come to Octoberfest

Yeah, between the Wiesn and the Hauptbahnhof you will find plenty of women who are more than willing for you to grab their boobs. For a price, of course.