Offensive Italians at the Oktoberfest

Storm in a d-cup...

None! Strange how it's always the same gender causing problems though.

*stirs pot*

EDIT: now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever been groped by a Japanese tourist.

yeah! Bloody women!

*snap* I was thinking Asians as well.

Obviously you've never been to the Wiesn with Arshoo.

We're probably a bit too old for them

He doesn't count, he's a bastard.
*hides from the Welsh wrath*

i'm really speechless to see how far you can actually go with your distorted mind.
for the same reason, i'm from Monza - italy - we should ban all germans coming for the GP that waste the beautiful park and are drunk at night... if they want to drink, they should do it home in front of the TV. Or in Ibiza where all english at night are drunk... why let them drink there??? let's send them back in manchester or liverpool or london and let them drink and fight there!!!

i'm really disappointed to see someone saying this stuff.. it's so obvious to me that beahviour does not depend from the gender, race or nationality, it only has to do with education, common sense, respect and alcoholic tolerance. If some people does not have it, you can't blame them all !!!

I think you'll find that the people who are saying that Italians at the Wiesn are a problem, such as myself, are of the firm opinion that the vast majority have no common sense and no respect. As for education and alcohol tolerance, I would guess that amongst these individuals both are sorely lacking. My personal feeling is what of course not all Italians are a problem, I've shared tables with many over the years and had a great time. However, the majority in my opinion are. Perhaps it's the "vocal minority", but they certainly give the rest a very bad name. Perhaps similarly I have English friends here who really didn't want and England games to be played in Munich because the idea of the "England fans" coming to town was not in any way appealing. Everyone knows that it is a relative minority causing the trouble but it is VERY noticeable and definitely a problem.

In general I think it's dangerous to blame one group completely however there are differences in culture. A walk down pretty well any British town center at 11PM on a Saturday night shows you our 'drink culture'. Are all Brits like that? I think not. Could it be there is a culture of that sort of behaviour with lads coming up from Italy? Some follow the crowd because of peer pressure?

i agree with you 100%.. especially with the bad naming thing... and this forum is yet another demonstration on how CERTAIN italians are... but i believe each single country in the world have their own 'stupid' and unrespectful people.. english might have hooligans (but not only them), Germany & Russians might have nazi's...


Ok, but difference in cultures have nothing to do with harassing women!!!
The way we are 'painted' in this thread sound like in italy harassing is the way to socialize with women, while it's not!!!
It has more to do with peer pressure, and the fact that UNFORTUNATELY for 90% of italians being outside italy equals "here there are no rules and regulation to respect"...
But we are talking about young & ignorant people for the most.

Who quite likely represent the majority of Italians who travel up for Oktoberfest. Hence the validity of remarks stating that Italians at Oktoberfest represent a problem.

True. I never condemned such remark - unfortunately i know my fellow citizens way more than you do.

But from here to have a ban to all italians coming to Oktoberfest, the distance is quite noticeable

I'm pretty sure on Toytown Ibiza there are a bunch of locals whinging like fuck about the drunken "english" and wishing they'd all piss of home. Like keydeck I hate the Italians when they're here. Some might think thats rascist, sorry its just old and jaded on my part of 17 years fest. I have had friends gropped pinched fondeled, heads in breasts and god knows what with in full view of me and their boyfriends. But its a bunch of lads on the piss, on holiday often the first time away from "mama" and treating every girl in a dirndl as a bitch on heat gagging for some italian, as, and I quote, only an Italians can show a woman a good time. (Yep mate but your to pissed to get it up was the reply I think) Thats life.

The only redeeming factor about "zee italaians" is that they couldn't pace themselves to save their arses. Lots of free tables in the afternoon because 8 sleeping Italians do not a profit make, and yuo can easily get them kicked off by the staff.

lol

i'm glad i look like a german then so i wont get stereotyped right away. And no, i do not collapse on the table!

just into the nearest breast padded dirnd'l eh? ;-)

yet another stereotype...italian collapsing on ladies' boobies...

i might be gay and collapse on someone's crotch LOL

Agreed on all points.

Then you should have been here last sunday. Sorry not a stereotype. Simple equasion.

Young Italians + Road Trip + Away from Mama + Beer + Beer + Beer X Plenty women looking realy feminine (Girls you should all be forced to wear Dirnd'l all year round I think you all look fab in them) = Messy situatons with locals.

Saying that I managed to put my first foot into a pile of sick yesterday. On the S-bahn. Grrrrrrrr

...but as luck would have it it was your own...

I have been reading this closely due to fact that I have a very close friend that is Italian (met him at Oktoberfest). But, I must say after tonight... I was at the Hofbrauhaus & the guy at the table behind us kept rubbing at my shoulder & my hair. Ok, I am no spring chicken & did not expect this ( esp. since I had a turtleneck on). After two times of talking to him, I was forced to turn a friend on him. At that point the waiter became involved. Now, in hind sight, I feel a bit bad for him. So many young stupid tourist women & he went after ME!

Fuck me, don't say things like that. You're only 36 or thereabouts.

Ok fair enough for any other day of the week, but 36 for the area that I was in was "mommyville". Thanks again to my angel, Alimess. She answered my desperate cry for help thread. God Bless You!

I was just about to post This but then I also noticed shes the same age as me and therefore clearly in no way old.

Ok, so in a bit of a tipsy state, I just reread your post Keydeck. I must also say "God Bless You" to you too. 36? Not too old? Well...

People from Augsburg are the most offensive at the Wiesn.

Every single fucking year without fail I get some arseholes from Augsburg sat in a big family wearing shitty fake cheap Tracht who think that because young Sepp doesn't have a wife yet, that I should do the honours.
I should bleedin' coco.
Groping, grabbing, shouting in my ears, being persistent to the point of harassment, I've just had enough.

Italian friendliness is nothing compared to these C U Next Tuesday-ers.

Bomb Augsburg.
It's the only way.

Fuckers.

Oh god just think of the children augsburg-fake scot-essex mixed mongs...

Still be better behaved then yours, sweetie.

@ katrina - Their cousins were at our table last Sunday. First the proof that chavs are now also a German phenomenon: Cheap nylon jacket, mullet, missing teeth, bad moustache (at least she had shaved hers off for the day!), Hey waitress, a Maß, and be quick about it! Yep, one Maß between them. They soon left, thank goodness.

Next candidates: Parents, teenage girl (about 13), one Maß between the parents, no conversation until Mr. Augsburg had finished most of the beer and started getting friendly and prosting around. His wife poked him in the ribs and reminded him that it was time to leave.

And the Italians at the next table were living it up and high fiving everyone who passed by. Some slight groping of the girls at their table but that was after a certain amount of conversation and much more beer.

Drink is a wonderous invention. It puts people mad. Being groped , battered, kicked etc is par for the course when ''looners'' get drink in !!! All of the above happened me at fest and still I go back for the next dose of bleeding mayhem. !!! Drink is to be enjoyed moderately but at fest that not the case, it a time to fill the tank and let rip...thats why its mayhem and I expect all sorts to happen me there !!!

It was never a place to have a nice quiet time with gentlefolk...

Actually, if you've ever been to Italy, you'll know that they don't have to be outside to have no respect for rules or regulations.. it's just in Italy it's normal..

Was at a work party on Wednesday with reserved tables. Shortly after 18:00, when we still waiting for some people to come, up strolled a group of 8 italian guys, looked at the reservation card, then one picked it up, scrunched it up and chucked it on the floor behind him and they all just sat down. Our beer wench saw them, and promptly through them out of the tent. I don't think they are big fans of them either.

I AM italian Hutcho!!!

And as i wrote earlier, it's 100% true what you're saying. We have no repsect for any public thing. A normal person will think public = belongs to everyone... in italy for 90% of the ppl public = belongs to nobody so i can destroy/waste/break everything. We should discuss for weeks trying to find out the reasons why...

What you get in Munich it's even worst because of peer pressure.. BEER pressure... and BRAIN pressure being too low to think properly.

My whole point is that NOT ALL ITALIANS HARASS WOMEN!!! it never happened to me nor it will in the future... it has actually happened the opposite to me once in Brasil, and i found it quite enjoyable lol

By the way within 2 hours i'm jumping on my caravan, direction Munich!!!

A question qubizz - We always hear about Italian men harassing foreign women either in Italy or wherever, but do Italian men do this to Italian girls in Italy, and if so how do the Italian girls react?

Have a good drive up here, it's a wet and soggy Wiesn...

It's interesting to note how 90% of the posts bitching about Italian men are posted by men from other countries...

Men in Italy are a lot more aggressive when it comes to chasing after women, that's all there is to it. Italians also don't abide by many rules, and certainly not to this unwritten code of drunken conduct more prevalent in northern European countries which dictates how one should behave towards men who are in bars with their women. A guy who is drunk out of his mind in N. Europe may get glassed in the face because he stepped on someone's toes, yet he can rest assured that no one will take advantage of his physical state to make a move on his GF - in Italy, if he's out of commission, the GF is fair game. The talk about Italians in particular actually feeling women up is a crock of shit though, and just thrown in there to increase the hysterics.

You were expecting Italian men to bitch about themselves?

Is this a cheap Italian version of "Subway Surfing"?

exactly. it gets noticed more because they already have an reputation and there are so many of them
i find that a quick evil look with a 'fuck off' usually works (with all nationalities).

No. I would have expected non-Italian women to make much more of a fuss over this.

is coz thy like me toucha dem up feely really innit

Not all Italians harass women, some Italians harass men cause they are gay.

You poor thing, getting harassed like that constantly. You must be some piece of ass...

Bollocks my son. Been there seen it have been asked to step in. Thanks though for your insight into the "Italian" mentality. Maybe you should inform more of your ilk about the cultural differences ;-). At the end of the day though I have never had to hit an Italian, gruff words and them going "lala al al al a amam ia mama" while gesticulating in such a drunken fashion even Jackie Chan would have problems following their arm movements is enough.

Whatever happy fest my Italian Caravan driving fellow europeans... And remember if anything goes wrong blame americans.

You sure bout that?


Case closed?

Just have to say that having spent 12 hours at the Oktoberfest on Saturday and the evening on Sunday, not once was I groped by an Italian. When a guy went too far i.e. touched me even in the slightest, I told him in no uncertain terms to back off. It worked a treat.

I groped an Italian on Sunday. Went over and lifted his shirt while he was taking his friends' picture. His face was a treat! But I told him in Italian - It's only me! and welcomed him to the Oktoberfest. Revenge is a dish best enjoyed cold!

I had mixed events with the Italians on the weekend, we (the hash) challeged them to a drinking contest, like a boat race, we won! That group was fine, but they were mixed- women and men, the scummy guys by the toilets were so bad they had to actually start posting Security guards to protect the women standing in line.

Hams that's not nearly racist enough for this thread - where was this guy from? Enquiring minds etc etc

been the fest 3 times, twice on 'Italian weekend' and only had trouble from some German blokes and some Australian ones. that was in the Hackerfestzelt, Augustiener and the HB tents.

Jimbo - didn't have trouble with any nationality in particular until Sunday evening with the girls in Schottenhammel. Then it was a 22 year old from North Germany who would just not get the message. I even shocked myself with how rude I became. Not that he tried to grope me or anything, but it gets boring when perpetually (over an hour) asked to dance when you just don't want to (with him).

But to counter balance that - I have a date on Friday pm with another guy originally from N. Germany in the correct age range who apparently according to planetmoni looks like Jens Lehmann.

Although must also mention that Oma Stelzbok was proposed to and bought 30 roses by an Italian at Hofbrau on Saturday evening.

Perhaps a new thread should be opened entitled 'Italian Men - They're Just Lovely Aren't They?'.