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Offensive Italians at the Oktoberfest

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radiation
You obviously have your own insights/opinion, however, as a woman and one who has never been groped (by an Italian or another nationality) in the four years that I've been attending is unassailable proof in my mind. Sure Italians are 'flirty flirty' but I would suggest to all the males on this forum reacting negatively to Italian men, perhaps you are the ones suffering from a bout of jealousy. And if it is your girlfriend being groped, how about letting her deal with the perpetrator (Carm's example of a right hook surely being an example) instead of going in all feisty and outraged.
And to the knights in armour: I would be really curious, how you guys would behave if you
just make a short trip to a BeerFest, drinking loads of beer and being surrounded by girls that
are barely dressed and, in most of the cases, not behaving themselves like princesses, I would say ...
And then come on open your eyes, how many girls go there just have some fun and flirt with some random guy ...
This again doesn't justify any SERIOUS sexual harassment to a girl, and if i would see someone really misbehaving with my girlfriend
of course I would intervene, maybe just kissing her and show the stupid that there is no way ... and keep the situation cool
Everybody posting about sexual arasement, when 99% we are talking about this stupid and sometimes embarassing italian flirt flirt behaviour ...
For the remaining 1% of potentially dangerous situations for girls, I can bet whatever that Italians are not on first place ...
guaranteeeeed!
Lifeisabuffet
And to the knights in armour: I would be really curious, how you guys would behave if you
just make a short trip to a BeerFest, drinking loads of beer and being surrounded by girls that
are barely dressed and, in most of the cases, not behaving themselves like princesses, I would say ...
Tell me something. How the hell does a woman act like a princess?
I guess you are telling us that women who go to fest are all like whores? Good grief.
Italians are famous for groping. Visit Italy and you will have your buttcheeks pinched in nanoseconds. It does not matter if you are wearing a short skirt, long skirt, loose pants or tight pants.
Keydeck
For the remaining 1% of potentially dangerous situations for girls, I can bet whatever that Italians are not on first place ...
guaranteeeeed!
Based on what exactly?
sea-king
"Tell me something. How the hell does a woman act like a princess? "
By being a Media Whore, getting in a Mercedes, with a greasy midget and a hopped up driver and being spread across a French tunnel?
Lifeisabuffet
LMAO @ Seaking.
maddul
And to the knights in armour: I would be really curious, how you guys would behave if you
just make a short trip to a BeerFest, drinking loads of beer and being surrounded by girls that
are barely dressed and, in most of the cases, not behaving themselves like princesses, I would say ...
And then come on open your eyes, how many girls go there just have some fun and flirt with some random guy ...
And that mentaility sir, is exactly why Italians ARE a problem at the Oktoberfest! Keep up the fantasy mate.
HellesAngel
Eloquently put maddul.
radiation
And that mentaility sir, is exactly why Italians ARE a problem at the Oktoberfest! Keep up the fantasy mate.
Yes sir, i know and what I am just trying to say that this mentality doesn't led automatically to become a REAL
danger to anyone. And don't tell me that you habe see most of italians grabbing boops and asses, most of them will go for sure
for girls with stupid comments and given the inhabilty of english-speaking (as you can see) not more than that. This flirty flirty wathever
you can judge it as you want, but i don't think this should be regarded as a major problem. I would say to a girl going to a girl going next weeken to wiesn,
be prapered to meet a lot of italians, most of them will look at you as the last girl on earth and will make some stupid comment on you and try to hook you in any possible way.
Just don't give them too much space if you don't want to and just shout at them IF they are taking to much freedom.
If you find a nice group of italians be sure that you will have great time ... because they know how to party properly. Don't have prejudices ...

from oktoberfest.de:
"It’s hard to believe that the Schottenhamel tent, which in 1867 was just a small beer booth with 50 seats, has become the largest Wiesn tent with circa 10,000 seats. The Schottenhamel is the favorite hunting ground for Munich’s young people who meet there to drink and party".
"Mainly frequented by the younger crowd. A stylish sekt (sparkling wine) bar lends the Hippodrom a special flair. It is also highly recommendable for singles, as the flirt factor is one of the highest at the Wiesn."

so looks like flirting is a part of the game, or not?

BTW, i really got to know a lot of people during the last three wiesn, girls, guys, oomas and opas, german, americans, aussies, italians and whatever ... always had great time and never took any freedom to bother a girl apart from talking, cheering, partying ... And i am really the first one to laugh at stupid italians trying (with no hope) to hook a girl, but i never saw something potentially dangerous, sorry i stick on this point ... Only dangerous situation was last year when a nice guy from Boston and his girlfriend, both living in MUC), completely drunk and falling all the time, refused to get out of the tent and bothered us for more few hours, and finally menaged to fall and (by accident) crasching his maß agains my friend's nose ... The result was a broken nose!
But that's just about drinking, so i assume is not dangerous and well tollerated, right? and don't tell me is an isolated case ...

Habediehere !!!
Eleanor Rigby
radiation, you do realise that groping and inappropriate potentially dangerous behaviour does occur? Several times I've had my breasts grabbed, my skirt lifted up, my bum spanked and on one occasion was even pinned against the wall with the guy licking my neck while I was waiting for the bathroom and only let go after stomping really hard on the guys foot.

I've met nice Italians too who I shared a dance and a mass with but all of the above were also Italians so you can't say it doesn't go beyond innocent flirting.
radiation
Tell me something. How the hell does a woman act like a princess?
I guess you are telling us that women who go to fest are all like whores? Good grief.
Italians are famous for groping. Visit Italy and you will have your buttcheeks pinched in nanoseconds. It does not matter if you are wearing a short skirt, long skirt, loose pants or tight pants.
Come on, i just ment that you should admitt that there are also a lot of girls,
that are just hoping to flirt with someone (or more ...). Of course this doesn't justify any misbehaviour ...

"Visit Italy and you will have your buttcheeks pinched in nanoseconds" ... come on don't watch movies, visit Italy once ... it takes at least 5 minutes ...
"It does not matter if you are wearing a short skirt, long skirt, loose pants or tight pants". of course not, cause apparently you don't wear any shirt ...
maddul
Yes sir, i know and what I am just trying to say that this mentality doesn't led automatically to become a REAL
danger to anyone. And don't tell me that you habe see most of italians grabbing boops and asses, most of them will go for sure
for girls with stupid comments and given the inhabilty of english-speaking (as you can see) not more than that.
This flirty flirty wathever you can judge it as you want, but i don't think this should be regarded as a major problem.
Here you state your point.

I would say to a girl going to a girl going next weeken to wiesn,
be prapered to meet a lot of italians, most of them will look at you as the last girl on earth and will make some stupid comment on you and try to hook you in any possible way.
Just don't give them too much space if you don't want to and just shout at them IF they are taking to much freedom.
Here your contradiction. Why should a woman be worried to not give someone "much space", or think she is in fact doing so, given the fact that she too is there to have a few mass, and italians as you say are not at all dangerous? And just how much is "much space" in drunk italian mentality terms that is?

from oktoberfest.de:
"It’s hard to believe that the Schottenhamel tent, which in 1867 was just a small beer booth with 50 seats, has become the largest Wiesn tent with circa 10,000 seats. The Schottenhamel is the favorite hunting ground for Munich’s young people who meet there to drink and party".
"Mainly frequented by the younger crowd. A stylish sekt (sparkling wine) bar lends the Hippodrom a special flair. It is also highly recommendable for singles, as the flirt factor is one of the highest at the Wiesn."

so looks like flirting is a part of the game, or not?
Conditio sine que non, it seems, italians take for granted as open free pans of hunting grounds for harrassing intoxicated women to the point it becomes offensive.
Ah yes, logic at its finest form there.

And i am really the first one to laugh at stupid italians trying (with no hope) to hook a girl, but i never saw something potentially dangerous, sorry i stick on this point
Of coarse if you ignore something then it doesnt exist. Perfect sense once again. Must be something typically italian that I cant comprehend. Like omerta'.
Have fun at the Wies'n mate.
Jimbo
Quite a lot of serious convictions being held on this thread - perhaps a few TT'ers should stage an anti-Italian demonstration at the Wies'n this weekend and see if the locals support it.
Eleanor Rigby
"Visit Italy and you will have your buttcheeks pinched in nanoseconds" ... come on don't watch movies, visit Italy once ... it takes at least 5 minutes ...
I visited Venice with my father when I was in 9th grade (around 13 years old) we were walking arm and arm down the street and I was wearing an admittedly shortish skirt when without my even fully comprehending what happened an old Italian man on a bicycle (!) rode by and managed to put his hands up my skirt, reach inside my panties and almost managed to insert his finger into my butt! He was long gone before I could even speak a word I was so shocked, my father asked if he had pinched my butt but I was too flabberghasted even to respond.
adrian_t
I've already this Oktoberfest had an Italian swinging a beer bottle at me (he missed) after I removed his hands from one of his female victims. I don't like to generalize, but the Italian Oktoberfest crowd does seem very willing to show off its behavioral problems.
Lifeisabuffet
"Visit Italy and you will have your buttcheeks pinched in nanoseconds" ... come on don't watch movies, visit Italy once ... it takes at least 5 minutes ...
"It does not matter if you are wearing a short skirt, long skirt, loose pants or tight pants". of course not, cause apparently you don't wear any shirt ...
In Venice, I had my buttcheeks pinched walking down the street.
In Milano, guys were trying to rub their palms on my butt.
What does wearing a shirt have to do with groping? No, I did not walk down the street naked if that's what you meant.
EDIT: Warning: Don't ever get on a bus in Venice. Men will try to grab your butt on the bus. I guess they think since the woman can't run away, they can get away with everything.
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