Google are hiring staff in Munich

Hi,

I just came across job adverts from Google in Munich but have the following questions:

1. Where is their Munich office located?
2. Anyone here have any insider information about the recruitment process?
3. Assuming they are opening in Munich - when do they plan to do so?
4. Any idea about the standard package Google offers compared to the market?

Rhein

i am interested too, where did you see the job advert?

Google jobs in Munich

Google are one of the most difficult companies to get into - they're very selective about who they hire.

If you can't even locate the jobs section on their website, you might as well not bother.

These sections I checked long before. I know what kind of position they are looking for and I also know that they are very difficult to get into.
What I wanted to know is - Where is the munich office for them or they didnt start their business yet in munich + compensation etc. :-)

Google do not have an office in Munich. (Yet)

Their German HQ is at:

Google Germany GmbH
ABC-Strasse 19
20354 Hamburg
phone: +49-40-80-81-79-000
fax: +49-40-4921-9194

Its also where google.de is registered. If you look here, you will see that they are looking for
many positions in Munich. It looks like their building up a new datacenter/team..

If you really want to know, head down to the Amtsgericht and request a copy of their company registration out of the Handelsregister.

They are opening offices in Marienplatz (I am not kidding) and these offices will concentrate on mobile Internet.
And do not bother to contact them, if they think they need you they will contact you.
If I tell you more I am a dead man

Insider Information.

Google do have tech offices in munich. but the location is kept VERY secret because google dont want every weirdo extremist freak to know where their hardware is located.

and by the way:




is complete bullshit. Google are always looking for intelligent, interesting and talented people. Apply if you feel like you can live by the following ideal;

Dont be evil.

Actually I have never heard so much bullshit. They advertise their jobs. However it is true if you are a useless fucker with no experience , drive or outlook you will not get in. But frankly I wouldnt restrict this to google.
Oh my, perhaps you are better suited to burger king.

Sinderbox - When do they plan to start ?

For others - any other tips !!! I am preparing my resume at the moment to apply.

I just tried to be simplistic. Yes, you can apply and be one of those 5000 that do it daily, But it is not that if you are a useless facker you will be rejected with any minor chance, it will also happen if you are much better than that. They have been hunting for the top professionals in Munich and around for the last few months, and if you are one of those you cannot hide your deeds, they know you or they will come to know you. They know how to search...

But of course you can apply.
(And yes, Marienplaz are not the tech offices )

Translation: Toytowners need not apply.

I have some insight into the hiring process if you want to contact me. I interviewed with them in Hamburg for this position. You can email me on agwynndavies@yahoo.co.uk and I will give you more information if you are serious about applying. I must say though, it's not as amazingly attractive as you might think and in addition, you basically need to be native german (very fluent).
Cheers,
Ant

Ant, it'd be cool if you could share the info right here on the forum instead of in secret.

I assume that must be a sarcastic remark...

"Don't Be Evil" is the informal corporate motto (or slogan) for Google

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Be_Evil

You're hired, Einstein.

I think that was a joke, dude!

If anyone has to ask "how do I find where Google are located?" or "are Google hiring?" then they really don't deserve a job there, and if they do ask and subsequently apply, they are almost guaranteed not to get the job (because Google will know they were looking)

<quote>
If anyone has to ask "how do I find where Google are located?" or "are Google hiring?" then they really don't deserve a job there, and if they do ask and subsequently apply, they are almost guaranteed not to get the job (because Google will know they were looking)
</quote>

Cant it be the other way around ? Its natural - if I am interested to work there - I can definitely ask around where google is located in Munich or of they are hiring etc. - I just dont understand - why should it be a point to get disqualified. ..from my perspective it should be taken positively.

You should be disqualified because you could have easily answered your own questions by searching on Google..

ok..which of the 4 questions I put on can be found by searching in google ..I definitely tried but didnt help ..even I couldnt even find the address of the munich branch. :-)

This is the problem with Google that I have heard of from two ex-employees at Google. These people both have a high education degree, and that's what Google has too many of. Apparently the employee basis of Google consists of too many highly educated people all striking to get to the top. In other words, the Google culture has a high internal competition going on.

what's wrong with internal competition as long as you still perform and get good results (and get along/work well with each other)? woudn't competition bring about more ideas/better service since people are trying to out do each other thus only presenting quality work?

OK, I will play the devil's advocate because you asked for it, so please take it easy

Typical google interview:
Some guy wants to apply for a Google job and asks the following questions in Toytown

1. Where is their Munich office located?
2. ...
3. Assuming they are opening in Munich...
4. ...

Why would you say his reasoning is flawed?

I hope you like the paradox, screwed if you don't answer and screwed if you do

[Edit: Yes, I intentionally left a backdoor to solve the dilemma ]

That is usually a very ideal situation, and I wished it could be the case in most cases. Sadly there are a lot of these companies where this competition gets a bit "out of hand". With that I mean that people are trying to get their own asses up the ladder, and don't care about others or even use people for their own benefits. I don't know if there's an English term for it, we call it an "elbow culture", where you really have to start a battle to grow within a company or else you're out.

EDIT: To stay on topic, that's exactly the reason why those two people I mentioned earlier are not working there anymore.

I suppose they only want programmers, no? (That was skeptical me, talking. Nevertheless, I may have a look at it... I checked their jobsite 10 months back... didn't see anything for München... if there was anything, I suppose I would have reacted... even if I am not an Einstein... even without too deep and far-reaching IT skills...)

Google gives me the creeps and I think their company motto is somewhat devalued based on their current records - they are like any other advertising company

Hi,

As requested I will post some more information about what Google has in Germany and what they are looking for.

I have a friend who works for Google in the Uk selling Enterprise Search. this means selling the search boxes to business in Germany for their internal
Enterprise search requirements. Google Enterprise is less than 2% of the overall revenue of Google but holds much promise for the future, especially as they will also sell their Google Apps (competitive to MS Office) products via this channel. All products which have commercial enterprise value are or will be sold this way, including Google maps etc.

In January there were two German employees for this business division and less than 10 across Europe. It is run like any other IT enterprise sales company and some of the management are ex-Oracle and ex-Fast (Googles main compeition are FAST, Autonomy, IBM and Oracle in this space). There are tough sales targets like any IT company and Google is a long way from being number one in Search in the enterprise area. Their products are more like MS, very easy to install and use, inexpensive but not at all sophisticated or customized for Medium or Large businesses.

They have a very small office in Munich, very close to Maximillianstrasse but when I interviewed there was only one employee based there. In Hamburg is where most of the Google Germany employees sit (ABC Strasse) and I would guess about 150 of them. The offices are extremely cool and the people very open and friendly.

Overall my experience was very good with the company. They were professional (but small) and everyone was very consumer focused (a good thing). I had 6 interviews in total, two by phone and four in Hamberg. Some were wil management and some with Guys from the Advertising Business. They told me my german wasn't good enough to sell transactionally to Small and Medium Businesses in Germany, many of which were unlikely to be very proficient in English. They offered me a job in the UK if was interested or asked me to come back to them if my German improved. One shouldn't forget, they are still a start up company in many senses and although a household name, still very very small.

As for what they are doing in the "world domination" space, I'll reserve my judgements here but I'd encourage you to have a look at Larry Page / Sergey Brin's www.ted.com lecture - they're not really world domination types ...

Hope this helps shed some light,
Best,
Ant

thanks Agwynndavies ...I think thats what we were looking for :-)

I happen to be a googler -- but I do not speak for Google in any way; this is just a personal post -- and if you're interested in the positions at the new Munich office the link you're looking for is definitely:
http://www.google.de/support/jobs/bin/topi...amp;loc_id=8714
When I looked, there was quite a range of positions being offered...

I'll actually be working out of the new office for the next 6 months, and I've already started to cling to the TT site like a life raft as I try and figure out which way is up in Munich. I've had a two week orientation trip so far, which was a blast, but I can tell actually living there is going to be interesting. I can only imagine what Munich'll be like when it gets chilly...

Don't imagine, use the search function...

Read some management wisdom from W. Edwards Deming for a good explanation of what's wrong with employees competing with each other.

There is a Google Branch in "Alter Hof" . just take the entry to Alter Hof Vinorant coming from Dienerstrasse und you find the Google office on the left hand side.

Good luck getting hired,
Pia

BBC News: What it's like to work in Google Zurich

The google hq in Zurich looks like a big playground, slides down to the canteen, fireman's poles between floors, free food, a chill out aquarium room, games room.

Sounds class. But would ya get any work done?

I wanna work at google

Be content if you can google at work.

You almost certainly already are. It's just you're not getting paid for it.

Probably not too far from the truth considering how much they already spy on your internet activities urr... know about you for marketing purposes oh, no have an unhealthy grip on who goes where on the net no, no, er... lets just say they already know who you are, what you do, who your friends are, who you associate with, and almost everything else about you that you ever did on the net.

Edit: Ditto YL6...

Lots of people speculating without complete knowledge...hmmm. Well, Google Hamburg is not a R&D centre. And yes, Google has recently opened its R&D centre in Munich, knowing the importance of that place and also because of its location (although there is one more R&D centre very close by - in Zurich).


There are scores of young people who are ready to work for Google, even for a small payscale. But ofcourse, they pay good and you get a lot of benefits. They offer free food at work, massage, etc stuff too.

Also, lots of people who wanna work at Google, start preparing for the interviews well ahead of the interview (a couple of months before) in diverse topics like distributed systems, algorithms, networking problems, linux, information retrieval algorithms, and sundry other things. If you are into that already, it would be a bit easy. Do you think, its that easy to comprehend those intricate algorithm problems? ...It takes a while. And you know there are good number of young guys in Poland, Russia, China, India, etc countries who can solve these intricate algo problems in just a couple of minutes (which you can notice in a couple of coding competitions), which would otherwise take a while for some other guys (probably days, months or years).

And one more thing is that, it depends on what kind of position you are expecting at Google. Google Hamburg and Düsseldorf is mostly into sales and marketing. Google has many offices, but its main R&D centres in Europe are in Dublin(Ireland), Zurich (Switzerland), Munich(Germany) and Krakow (Poland).


Ofcourse, you can apply. But dont be surprised if you dont get any reply. They receive hundreds of resumes everyday. They had some kind of puzzle, reasoning test too. But I dont really know if they still have that procedure coz its grown big enough now and indeed some Google folks have quit working and joined Facebook, just because its grown big enough and they are missing the challenges of working as an entrepreneur. But still, its a great company to work at. because you learn much.

I have some more interesting facts for you folks:
1) Do you know that Google folks prepare their own super computers by stacking up low cost linux box's and connecting them?
2) Do you know that Google hired a Brain Surgeon (who was good in computers too) as the network admin and supervisor (in the beginning)?


QUATSCH! Why would they hide the location details of their office? If they would hide Munich's location, they would hide the mountain view HQ location too? and also Zurich location?...But did they?..NO.

But its obvious that they wouldnt reveal the information of their server farms, but not their office. They have huge server farms and they already had some problems (a couple of years back) when one server farm went down due to fire. There are different security risks associated with that. So, no one would reveal the location of that (Atleast, the exact location). Even if one server farm fails, there's an other one which acts as a substitute and makes it fail-safe. But still, its a huge loss. So, those details are kept confidential. Simple!

PS: Working at Google also depends of one's priorities. I know of some people who are content with what they are working on and can do other things in life and maintain that poise in life. And there are some more, who are ambitious and want to do things. So, it all depends! Choose for yourself and then Google decides whether they can choose you or not!

Do you work at Google, or are you just a Google Fanboy?

No, I aint. I'm gonna (maybe), at some point later!

Note: By your question, you aint elegible for applying to Google (Check my location). Next!

Ok, so Fanboy.. you sound desperate..

Nope..not really...Content with what I have. Just some career aspirations! Is that wrong to give info on TT?

When you say stuff like "Lots of people speculating without complete knowledge..." it kind of implies that you have complete knowledge and you're not speculating. Maybe your brother is Larry or Sergi but, anyway just comes off sounding a bit odd.

Nope, I aint perfect and I dont know much, to be frank and no one has complete knowledge and there's no utopian place. I was also speculating. Just blurted out something with the knowledge that I got from doing some research since a while about different things and keepin' abreast of that. Anyways, I gave a little bit of info that is very useful for some folks who are trying to work at Google.

Oh dude, I wasnt serious. Why the heck are you taking it otherwise? C'mon!

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