Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 5:18 pm
House-broken two year old female dog has suddenly started pissing - on my bed, on my bath mat, all over the place. I've taken her to the vet who has found nothing physically wrong with her. The only change in her routine is that I recently started a thing with a guy and didn't let her sleep in my bed (she slept in her own dog bed outside of the bedroom). I am wondering if the pissing is her revenge? I did notice that when I was trying to kiss the guy in question, my dog leapt on top of us and tried to (and nearly did) insert her own tongue into my mouth.
Dafydd
Sep 11 2007, 5:21 pm
Clue's in the question.
BattalionBoy
Sep 11 2007, 5:24 pm
Perfectly normal behavour - I did the same when my wife got herself a boyfriend and brought him home.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 5:29 pm
The guy is not actually my boyfriend, so the title of this thread is now inaccurate.
Dafydd
Sep 11 2007, 5:30 pm
You said he was male & kissing sounds kinda friendly so...
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:09 pm
I said who was male?
mere
Sep 11 2007, 6:10 pm
your love at first sight guy isn't your bf?
as for the dog... it has more to do than a new person it's a change in routine. if you really want i can go into it and explain more.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:11 pm
It would be great if you could go into more detail about my dog's behaviour and about how to work with it.
It is a new guy in my life but I wouldn't call him a boyfriend. Long story. Rather not discuss it right now.
eurovol
Sep 11 2007, 6:16 pm
SBSDT!
Keydeck
Sep 11 2007, 6:16 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:11 pm)

It is a new guy in my life but I wouldn't call him a boyfriend. Long story. Rather not discuss it right now.
You mean, regular trick, then? It's probably the lack of stability that's causing the issues for Scraps.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:17 pm
QUOTE (eurovol @ Sep 11 2007, 7:16 pm)

SBSDT!
What does that mean?
bluedave
Sep 11 2007, 6:18 pm
Are there any periods of your life that don't turn into dramas?
I was quite supportive of you during the rent debacle but i'm now starting to wonder.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:19 pm
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Sep 11 2007, 7:16 pm)

You mean, regular trick, then? It's probably the lack of stability that's causing the issues for Scraps.
Yawn.
Keydeck
Sep 11 2007, 6:19 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 7:18 pm)

Are there any periods of your life that don't turn into dramas ?
I was quite supportive of you during the rent debacle but i'm now starting to wonder.
I think quite a few people feel the same. Tis like HockeyWidow with extra sex.
Sinderbox
Sep 11 2007, 6:20 pm
I would lock the dog out and not answer when he knocks on the door or phones you. Just send him SMS's and keep TT informed of every single step you give. Is the dog American?
Sorry, it was stronger than me...
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:21 pm
This may seem like a weird concept to a couple of you but... if you are unable to offer advice re my urinating dog, it is actually ok to not comment at all. Without inflammatory responses and goading there generally IS no drama...
Supergill
Sep 11 2007, 6:22 pm
Looks like the old 'Liebe auf den ersten Blick' has taken a bit of a hammering, then. Did he do a runner when he realised that your dog was trying to get a piece of the action?
A pet expert writes : Any pet that has had your undivided attention for some time is likely to be pissed off when it is no longer 'top dog' (sorry). What you have described are some of the ways in which this can manifest itself.
Of course, it could be that she really liked your ex-love at first sight geezer and resented the intrusion of somebody else. It's a minefield and no mistake
Keydeck
Sep 11 2007, 6:22 pm
Men, dogs and now goads? Poor little bastards should be left alone on the hillsides. Is there no end to your debauchery?
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:23 pm
QUOTE (Supergill @ Sep 11 2007, 7:22 pm)

Looks like the old 'Liebe auf den ersten Blick' has taken a bit of a hammering, then. Did he do a runner when he realised that your dog was trying to get a piece of the action?
A pet expert writes : Any pet that has had your undivided attention for some time is likely to be pissed off when it is no longer 'top dog' (sorry). What you have described are some of the ways in which this can manifest itself.
Of course, it could be that she really liked your ex-love at first sight geezer and resented the intrusion of somebody else. It's a minefield and no mistake
Yup the dog is used to my undivided attention.
YorkshireLad6
Sep 11 2007, 6:24 pm
This post has promise - female dogs, golden showers, "things" with a guy, "trying to kiss" and a bitch-fight in the offing. That's my night in sorted...
Please, continue...
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:24 pm
Love how Keydick has posted in this thread at least 3 times, all the while complaining about said thread. There is such a thing as free will, LMAO
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:25 pm
QUOTE (YorkshireLad6 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:24 pm)

This post has promise - female dogs, golden showers, "things" with a guy, "trying to kiss" and a bitch-fight in the offing. That's my night in sorted...
Please, continue...
That's actually quite funny
Sinderbox
Sep 11 2007, 6:30 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 6:18 pm)

I am wondering if the pissing is her revenge?
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:21 pm)

if you are unable to offer advice re my urinating dog...
Ok Bella, there is an intruder home, your dog used to sleep in your bed, now she is not allowed and pisses your/her bed.
He is marking his stolen territory.
But you are a dog owner and you knew that...
ADD comes to mind.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:32 pm
My dog is not in the habit of marking her territory. The whole apartment has long been her territory and she has had no reason to run around peeing.
eurovol
Sep 11 2007, 6:33 pm
HockeyWidow was tame in comparison. What is the female counterpart to a drama queen?
YorkshireLad6
Sep 11 2007, 6:36 pm
Isn't a drama queen female by definition?
Sinderbox
Sep 11 2007, 6:37 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:32 pm)

My dog is not in the habit of marking her territory. The whole apartment has long been her territory and she has had no reason to run around peeing.
No reason until now. What is the part in "an intruder has taken part of her territory and she is therefore saying MINE in the most common way for a dog to say MINE" that you do not get?
eurovol
Sep 11 2007, 6:38 pm
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Sep 11 2007, 7:20 pm)

I would lock the dog out and not answer when he knocks on the door or phones you. Just send him SMS's and keep TT informed of every single step you give. Is the dog American?
That's it, I have just died from laughter. And the fuckers said that laughter was the best medicine, ha (harumph for you Islanders).
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:38 pm
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Sep 11 2007, 7:37 pm)

No reason until now. What is the part in "an intruder has taken part of her territory and she is therefore saying MINE in the most common way for a dog to say MINE" that you do not get?
Pissing on my bed seems a tad extreme, no?
eurovol
Sep 11 2007, 6:39 pm
QUOTE (YorkshireLad6 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:36 pm)

Isn't a drama queen female by definition?
They would like to think so.
Sinderbox
Sep 11 2007, 6:42 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:38 pm)

Pissing on my bed seems a tad extreme, no?
You must be kidding.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:43 pm
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Sep 11 2007, 7:42 pm)

You must be pissing.
No. It's the dog doing the pissing.
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Sep 11 2007, 7:30 pm)

now she is not allowed and pisses your/her bed.
He is marking his stolen territory.
Who is "he"? The non-boyfriend? Now he's marking his territory as well?
I must have missed something, I didn't realise he was engaging in the same liquid-dispersing activities as the dog.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:48 pm
I have absolutely no idea.
This thread is a joke, very little helpful advice and just juvenile nonsense replies. Hopefully the moderator will lock down the thread soon.
Maybe the dog is intimidated by an unknown person's presence. I know of lots of dogs that piss everywhere when they are afraid or uncertain... Maybe the dog is getting a bad vibe (they seem to have a strange sense about these things) or is just confused because it's normally just you and him..
Sinderbox
Sep 11 2007, 6:48 pm
QUOTE (Kay @ Sep 11 2007, 7:43 pm)

I must have missed something, I didn't realise he was engaging in the same liquid-dispersing activities as the dog.
No way. If the guy looses his bed rights and the dog gains them back he will tell Bella in plain English, it is clear Canine she does not understand.
bluedave
Sep 11 2007, 6:50 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:48 pm)

I have absolutely no idea.
This thread is a joke
Yep, i think that was an acceptance of responsibility right there.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:51 pm
QUOTE (evi @ Sep 11 2007, 7:48 pm)

Maybe the dog is intimidated by an unknown person's presence. I know of lots of dogs that piss everywhere when they are afraid or uncertain... Maybe the dog is getting a bad vibe (they seem to have a strange sense about these things) or is just confused because it's normally just you and him..
It's interesting. When I have platonic friends over, the dog never gets agitated or upset. I've had platonic friends stay the night on my sofa (and the sofa is another of the dog's favourite haunts) and there's no pissing from the dog at all. The dog just clearly felt threatened by the guy and didn't like seeing the guy getting so much attention from me.
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Sep 11 2007, 7:48 pm)

No way. (...)
I know, I was just kidding. Maybe he should try it, though, at least then there would be a proper p***ing contest.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 6:52 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 7:50 pm)

Yep, i think that was an acceptance of responsibility right there.
I started this thread with sincere intentions (seeking advice or to hear of similar stories and compare notes). The thread quickly generated into juvenile bullshit and I felt as though I was conversing with primary school kids. Maybe I am.
eurovol
Sep 11 2007, 7:02 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:48 pm)

This thread is a joke
Freudian slip? or Freudian piss?
As it says in the Bible, an eye for an eye, a piss for a piss.
silty1
Sep 11 2007, 7:08 pm
QUOTE (Bella1971 @ Sep 11 2007, 7:52 pm)

I started this thread with sincere intentions (seeking advice or to hear of similar stories and compare notes). The thread quickly generated into juvenile bullshit and I felt as though I was conversing with primary school kids. Maybe I am.
I think your expectations were set too high. Be happy you at least got a few straight answers and no abuse as to your country of origin, abusive PMs etc.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 7:10 pm
You're right. There was actually some useful information in among the silly stuff. I'm still not sure what the solution is re my dog. I'm trying to be extra nice to her, taking her for nice long walks, being very affectionate and so on so that she knows I still love her.
Dafydd
Sep 11 2007, 7:19 pm
"Another kind of house breaking problem is the dog that marks territory inside the house. This is a problem that is often associated with male dogs who are dominant or that have a high drive to mate. Another cause for this problem (sometimes in combination with dominance or a high drive to mate, sometimes alone) are the insecurities felt by some dogs."
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mere
Sep 11 2007, 7:23 pm
some of it has to poss. do with a new person.
Sinderbox i think youre putting too much emphasis on it. there are other things to determine.
if you, Bella, could give more specificis that'd help. Is it only during certain times of day, what has happened before or after? can you see any patterns to the behavior? is the dog ignored more? does it get less exercise? less play time? what breed? how old is the dog? spayed/neutered?
carrotcake
Sep 11 2007, 7:30 pm
Not to take the piss. But does your "guy" smell of dog? It could be him, and not that you have a thing. With him. Now try another him, see what the dog does. Not him, no piss, then him it is.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 7:37 pm
QUOTE (mere @ Sep 11 2007, 8:23 pm)

some of it has to poss. do with a new person.
Sinderbox i think youre putting too much emphasis on it. there are other things to determine.
if you, Bella, could give more specificis that'd help. Is it only during certain times of day, what has happened before or after? can you see any patterns to the behavior? is the dog ignored more? does it get less exercise? less play time? what breed? how old is the dog? spayed/neutered?
Hi Mere
She is 2 years old and spayed. She seems to be pissing at random, no particular time of day. She is also urinating as usual during her walks. I think the problem is probably the fact that she's been shut out of my bedroom while I've been in there with him. She had become used to sleeping with her head on my pillow and body under the duvet (weird, I know)
mere
Sep 11 2007, 7:54 pm
if you want a longer explanation pm me, but the quick response is simple- retrain her! allow her in your room, but not on the bed. then slowly kick her out. in your room for a bit then out for a bit then back in. make sure when she's out that she gets treats and toys out there where as not in your room. make it more enticing and fun for her in the hall. take it slowly though in the retraining.
Believe it or not, but dogs really do not retaliate. they don't have the mental process to. It seems like they do and in some situations they might be, but more often then not it's a learned behavior/shift in routine or something.
if you want more help or specifics on how to go about re-conditioning her let me know.
Bella1971
Sep 11 2007, 7:58 pm
Thanks Mere!
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