eurobabs
Sep 11 2007, 10:38 am
Just an interesting story I saw this am.
EU gives up on 'metric Britain'
bluedave
Sep 11 2007, 10:39 am
Good for us !
don_riina
Sep 11 2007, 10:40 am
Bloody right to. Who buys their weed in units of 28 grams? Thats just stupid, ounces are much better.
slateberry
Sep 11 2007, 10:52 am
I really think we should ,but with America sticking with Imperial too I suppose we never will, When I was young and an apprentice carpenter it was a bit crazy to buy screws “ 10 3and a half “ 10 mm head 3 and a half inch long “for example
The two systems running parallel do tend to mess with your head
Things that will be hard to change
Servers (19 inch)
Wheels and tyres
TV
Matt T
Sep 11 2007, 11:00 am
What a shame. It would have been great to see another nail in the coffin of the monstrosity that is the imperial measurements system.
(Not that Germany is all SI - think horsepower, pressure in bar, the beaufort scale, and calories.)
Don, if you go metric, they'll probably round your baggies up to 30 grams - more in it for you.
Batson Creek
Sep 11 2007, 11:07 am
Its not a monstrosity, it just perpetuates the mystique that surrounds us Island Monkeys.
Allershausen
Sep 11 2007, 11:23 am
QUOTE (Matt T @ Sep 11 2007, 12:00 pm)

Not that Germany is all SI - think horsepower, pressure in bar, the beaufort scale, and calories.
Ever done any plumbing here? BSP (British Standard Pipe) threads on the pipes, can't imagine why!
Showem
Sep 11 2007, 11:26 am
When will England see the one true light of Metric and give up their imperial heathen ways?
James_Runner
Sep 11 2007, 11:30 am
I remember in 1980-82 American science classes taught the Metric system. I was in 5th-7th grade at the time. Then by the time I went to high school much of that was downplayed. I wonder why...
Matt T
Sep 11 2007, 12:15 pm
QUOTE (Batson Creek @ Sep 11 2007, 12:07 pm)

Its not a monstrosity, it just perpetuates the mystique that surrounds us Island Monkeys.
Calling it a system is also somewhat too generous.
L8knight
Sep 11 2007, 12:21 pm
Good! Screw metric. I don't even know my height or weight in metric measurements

If you don't like my "imperial" measurements, get your FOOT off my YARD before I LB your face in
don_riina
Sep 11 2007, 12:37 pm
I cannot see what is so difficult about the imperial measurement system atall. If the EU want to homogenise Europe, to make is "easier" for everyone, then how people choose to weigh bananas in Yorkshire is not the place to start. No. If you want to get rid of stupid pointless crap in an effort to harmonise Europe, then the palce to start is with scrapping all languages that are not English, starting with the monstrosity that is German.
I bet the Germans are behind any move to ban imperial stuff anyway, basically becuase they cannot decide whether a yard is a boy, girl or a sexless inbetweeny. Fuckwit krout scum.
worm
Sep 11 2007, 12:49 pm
thank god for that. Telling women "I have a 24cm penis"* just didn't have the same effect
*on my forehead
Kay
Sep 11 2007, 12:53 pm
QUOTE (worm @ Sep 11 2007, 1:49 pm)

Telling women "I have a 24cm penis"* (...)
*on my forehead
Can' t be very comfortable...
worm
Sep 11 2007, 12:59 pm
it isn't.
would you like to rub it better?
I'm sure you're doing a fine job. Just carry on.
Hutcho
Sep 11 2007, 1:30 pm
England is the worst of the lot, because it's half metric and half imperial there.. it's ridiculous that things like speed signs on the road are still in miles, at least the government should be making the effort. At least the kids learn only metric in school. As soon as all the old farts die, or at put into nursing homes where they can't be heard any more, there might be a chance of moving over.
don_riina
Sep 11 2007, 1:50 pm
QUOTE (Hutcho @ Sep 11 2007, 2:30 pm)

it's ridiculous that things like speed signs on the road are still in miles,
Ridiculous because everybody is used to miles, and speeds are shown more prominently in mph on car dashboards?
I'd wager there might be loads of problems, and certainly quite a large cost, in changing miles to km. If miles are so shit, how come no airlines offer you "airkilometres"? Because it sounds gay, thats why.
Showem
Sep 11 2007, 1:55 pm
Canada changed all their road signs to km/h back in the 70s. Everyone moaned and said there would be problems with it. There wasn't of course.
I think it's ridiculous that it's miles on the road but you fill your car up with litres of petrol.
Tom17
Sep 11 2007, 1:56 pm
And to top that off, we still work in miles per GALLON.
slateberry
Sep 11 2007, 2:01 pm
no you dont you work off miles to the 10 quid I just put in
Tom17
Sep 11 2007, 2:02 pm
4!
L8knight
Sep 11 2007, 2:09 pm
QUOTE (Showem @ Sep 11 2007, 2:55 pm)

Canada changed all their road signs to km/h back in the 70s. Everyone moaned and said there would be problems with it. There wasn't of course.
I think it's ridiculous that it's miles on the road but you fill your car up with litres of petrol.
I don't put litres of shit in my car back home... I PUT GALLONS OF GAS in my car. GALLONS and GAS. You know, the GAS station thats just a 1/4 MILE down the road. Crap, need to get a GALLON of milk while I'm there too.
Bet you any money you can still go to a timberyard in England and buy 2 metres of planed two by two.
don_riina
Sep 11 2007, 2:15 pm
QUOTE (L8knight @ Sep 11 2007, 3:09 pm)

GALLONS and GAS. You know, the GAS station
No idea what you're on about mate. In England we get gas through pipes stright into our homes* - cars take petrol or diesel, or chip fat if you're a hippy twat. Chips being liberty fries BTW, not crisps.
*Which I don't get here, even thoguh I live well close to Dachau. weird.
QUOTE (James_Runner @ Sep 11 2007, 12:30 pm)

I remember in 1980-82 American science classes taught the Metric system. I was in 5th-7th grade at the time. Then by the time I went to high school much of that was downplayed. I wonder why...
I remember that as well, I think we were just too dumb to see the light of an easier system. I recall so much resistance to it, similar to the U.K. now.
bluedave
Sep 11 2007, 2:46 pm
Bollocks to metric, imperial much easier. I still think of a pint of beer, a quarter of ham and a gallon of petrol.
If the Europeans are so bleeding clever, why do they still do their wheel sizes in inches? ( Eg tyre size 185/60 13 )
Oh yeah, and the Don is right, Airmiles not bleedin Airklicks is it?
All that being said I'd rather have to crawl 10 kilometres than 10 miles.
You never hear about nautical kilometres. Why is that?
Moonboot
Sep 11 2007, 2:50 pm
yeah and you don't hear Special K adverts asking if you can pinch a centimeter..it doesn't rhyme AND if you can pinch a centimeter you don't need to de-lard.
Allershausen
Sep 11 2007, 2:51 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 3:46 pm)

If the British are so bleeding clever, why do they do their tyre sizes in metric ? ( Eg tyre size
185/60 13 )
Showem
Sep 11 2007, 2:56 pm
QUOTE (L8knight @ Sep 11 2007, 1:09 pm)

I don't put litres of shit in my car back home... I PUT GALLONS OF GAS in my car. GALLONS and GAS. You know, the GAS station thats just a 1/4 MILE down the road.
I'm not talking about
your home mate, I'm talking about this semi-civilized country I live in.
Hutcho
Sep 11 2007, 2:57 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 3:46 pm)

Bollocks to metric, imperial much easier. I still think of a pint of beer, a quarter of ham and a gallon of petrol.
That's just because you're old Dave
bluedave
Sep 11 2007, 3:02 pm
Yup i know and therefore us old farts should be given some respect and let us keep useable units.
astro_rabbit
Sep 11 2007, 11:08 pm
QUOTE (Sin @ Sep 11 2007, 3:49 pm)

All that being said I'd rather have to crawl 10 kilometres than 10 miles.
You never hear about nautical kilometres. Why is that?
Thats because you need to be on the high seas, that measurement is/was used by sailors
astro_rabbit
Sep 11 2007, 11:11 pm
Why is the American Pint (@16 fl oz) smaller than the English pint (@20 fl oz)
And contains significantly less alcohol
So next time i go back I can buy a quarter of sweets again?
Being in my mid to late 30's I'm of the generation that is confused as we got taught a bit of each. I still struggle to remember my height and weight in metric. Every time I get asked my height I still answer 6ft 3 and the germans just look at you and smile.
Allershausen
Sep 12 2007, 6:55 am
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 4:02 pm)

Yup i know and therefore us old farts should be given some respect and let us keep useable units.
I haven't used feet and inches since I was eleven years old, started to use the metric system as soon as I started in the grammar school, only used metric as an apprentice and continue to use it to this day. You'll be telling us next that you still design planes on a drawing board, because you're too old to use a computer. (I'm a fair bit older than Bluedave by the way)
Jules Winnfield
Sep 12 2007, 7:11 am
QUOTE (Pas @ Sep 12 2007, 7:21 am)

Every time I get asked my height I still answer 6ft 3 and the germans just look at you and smile.
Same here. I have gotten used to the metric system, use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit, but I still find height and a person's weight much easier to figure out in feet, inches and pounds. I still use feet, yards and miles when discussing distance, however everything is "pre-convereted" from metric beforehand.
thefirelane
Sep 12 2007, 9:15 am
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 11 2007, 3:46 pm)

Bollocks to metric, imperial much easier. I still think of a pint of beer, a quarter of ham and a gallon of petrol.
"My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it."
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tuca
Sep 12 2007, 9:30 am
A few years ago my little brother asked a Welsh guy whether they also used the metric system in Wales. His response was: "We use what?!? We hardly use the bus!!!"
slateberry
Sep 12 2007, 9:54 am
After using metric now for so long I could never go back to imperial. Metric is simple and logical ,they messed with our heads in the 70 s with both systems as they did with that all new singing and dancing writing system ITA ( remember that ? its amazing I can write this after learning that rubbish ?)Why do people think because its British it has to be good .Remember the old currency in the UK? What a nightmare that was, 240 pennies to the pound 2 shillings is a bob half a crown 12 and a half pence?? Hello! what the bloody hell was that then, thank god I was only 4 when we got rid of it ? , and while I’m on the point of money it’s about time we got the Euro over there too !
Eleanor Rigby
Sep 12 2007, 10:04 am
This may shock and amaze some of you but some people have the mental capacity to use both!
slateberry
Sep 12 2007, 10:07 am
WHY ?
boomtown_rat
Sep 12 2007, 10:09 am
QUOTE (Showem @ Sep 11 2007, 2:55 pm)

Canada changed all their road signs to km/h back in the 70s. Everyone moaned and said there would be problems with it. There wasn't of course.
I'm guessing that the logistics in Britain in the 21st C and Canada in the 70s may be on a different scale. Of course it is doable - I don't think there would be huge problems - maybe considerable expense though.
QUOTE (Showem @ Sep 11 2007, 2:55 pm)

I think it's ridiculous that it's miles on the road but you fill your car up with litres of petrol.
as distances and volumes are fairly unrelated I don't particularly see the problem with that.
bluedave
Sep 12 2007, 10:14 am
QUOTE (slateberry @ Sep 12 2007, 10:54 am)

Remember the old currency in the UK? What a nightmare that was, 240 pennies to the pound 2 shillings is a bob half a crown 12 and a half pence??
Nope, 2 shillings is two bob or a florin in even older money. Half a crown was indeed converted to 12 and a half of your
new pence, not of the old money.
Bah, kids today, can't tell 'em nothing.
slateberry
Sep 12 2007, 10:52 am
QUOTE (bluedave @ Sep 12 2007, 11:14 am)

Bah, kids today, can't tell 'em nothing.
Hey come on Dave I was only 4 the most money I had then was the thripp'ny bit
Id like to see the multi talented Eleanor Rigby work in old money though
Showem
Sep 12 2007, 10:53 am
Boomtown Rat, distance and volume are very related when it comes to calculating fuel economy. And as Tom17 points out, this is still calculated in gallons, a unit that isn't even used!
Serenissima
Sep 12 2007, 10:54 am
I have no problems with decimalising everything, and because our every-day use of numbers is decimal (I'm a programmer so I do also frequently use binary, hex and octal, but then I'm not normal!) doesn't it make sense to do all measurements in the same base, the one we normally calculate with, rather than try and mix them?
Alternatively, we could retain the old imperial duo-decimal system, which has its advantages in that 12 has more factors (2, 3, 4 and 6 compared to just 2 and 5 for 10) and therefore easier to sub-divide quantities, but that would be better utilised if we switched to calculating in base 12 as well, and I'm not sure that would go down well (except, perhaps, amongst polydactyls who can count up to 12 on their fingers!).
Anyway, with most consumer produce nowadays increasingly coming pre-packaged, who ever asks for half a stone of potatoes and a pound of carrots anymore, never mind if they know the metric equivalents or not?
Sin
Sep 12 2007, 10:57 am
QUOTE (astro_rabbit @ Sep 12 2007, 12:08 am)

Thats because you need to be on the high seas, that measurement is/was used by sailors
Be that roight, me hearty?
Serenissima
Sep 12 2007, 11:01 am
QUOTE (slateberry @ Sep 12 2007, 10:52 am)

Hey come on Dave I was only 4 the most money I had then was the thripp'ny bit
By 'eck, I remember when a packet of crisps were thruppence ha'penny, and a big bottle of dandelion & burdock pop was sixpence (with a penny deposit).
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