Do you feel safe here as an American?

Actually, historically that is not the way it has worked out. 1) as much as your mom (and my step mom) might like to think, most major international political events are not always timed around us elections. 2) the major political events affecting US elections that I can remember (and I'm certain that your mom could remember) happened before the major elections, not afterwards.

Yet again you resort to the poisonous tactic of trying to insinuate that people holding different views to yourself are somehow friends of terrorism.

No, MT, I will not allow you to peddle that nonsense. Where were you when I was accused by ceogero (a German) of having the KKK as "my bretheren"? As far as I can tell, you are only there to defend those with whom you agree, i.e., anti-US, anti-Tony Blair, anti-capitalism. Why haven't you ever criticized miwild, who has been debunked time and time again? My criticism is of false statements made about the US. Should I shrink from pointing out false statements and their corrosive effects on peoples' opinion of the US? Should I tolerate or endorse such falsehoods? You have people making all kinds of anti-US statements they cannot back up with reliable sources. That, MT, and false statements about the US are the poisonous tactics. Different views are part of a free society- I have different ones than you on many issues. Don't try to censor me and falsely accuse me of doing something I have already made clear is not happening.

EDIT: if you are calling the US 'imperialist' many years after the Red Army Faction did, don't blame me. That is entirely on you. No one asked you to use such language. BTW, I have yet to see you called a terrorist by anyone on Toytown.

I suppose it's worth noting that Al-Q set up the 9/11 cells and sent them on flight simulator training during WJC's administration. Also, the first attack on the WTC came on WJC's watch and this attempt was way closer to success than many believe. If they'd been a bit more clever the first time we would have had 30,000 casualties instead of 3,000.

It's also worth noting that within two months of us pushing into Bosnia the US military was escorting engineers from several oil multinationals to scout possible pipeline routes through the Balkans for Caspian oil. That ought to tell you everything you need to know about our push for peace. Don't get me wrong, I liked Bill, but let's not get carried away and make him out to be Gandhi or something.

I have seen the alternative and I don't like it either. Fundamentalism fundamentally sucks!


I suppose it is worth noting that AQ did all that to protest US troops on Saudi soil that Bush I installed there. It should also be worth noting that when Clinton went after Bin Laden the Republicans cried tail wagging the Lewinsky! It is also worth noting that when the proof came down that AQ was responsible for the USS Cole (a couple months after Bush came to office), Bush did nothing about it. So, lets not go overboard in underestimating the culpability of Bush and the Republicans in allowing things to happen such as 9-11. After '93 you would think that they would take the threats more seriously, but they fucking didn't as they were too busy crowing about their tax cuts and spending millions in taxpayer's money to send letters out proclaiming as much. The tax cuts have been a scam perpetrated on the average American's dime. Instead of taking a month vacation in August of 2001, Bush should have been paying more attention to National Security and Foreign Policy issues. And if you think it was a one off thing, the fucker did it again during Katrina.

We are not safer by any stretch of the imagination today than we were when Clinton was in office. In fact, we are much less safer and it is a direct result of Bush and his policies. It is time for a real leader to take the Presidency and not another poser. America deserves better and our kids deserve better. Folksy may be cute, but goddammit we need someone who knows that Howard is not the leader of Austria and that Australia is not a member of OPEC for fucks sakes. We are a nation being led by a fucking moran with a trailer park based foreign policy mentality! The guy is a liar and a scammer and we need to stop making excuses for the dimwit.

luvlein, MT was making a claim of fact in the above rubbish statement; there is no indication whatsoever that it was merely a viewpoint.

So... what mental institution did you escape from then, blind boy?

Well, seeing that Saddam invaded a sovereign country and was sitting on 25% of the World's known oil reserves, I think we had a pretty good reason to station trooops there. IIRC the entire World minus Jordan, Palestine, and the Wahhabist nutjobs in S.A. were in full agreement with our decision to push him out.


Yeah, I know that. That's why I have a pretty dim view of blind partisanship on both sides.

Fact is, we had a great many severe lapses in national security and Intel whilst we were all enjoying the peace dividend and the Tech-boom go-go 90's. Plenty of blame to go around and I am in full agreement that WJC would have had much more latitude to eradicate OBL if the Republicans weren't acting like asshats. That being said, in hindsight he probably should have said to Hell with them and made better use of the couple of opportunities that we had. Of course hindsight is 20/20.

Wrong.

Al-Qaeda plans predated the Iraq war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Yawn...

To answer the original topic question. Yes, but i worry about all of you other idiots dirtying up our reputation and endangering my life. If I'm killed I'll have you tried for involuntary manslaughter.