sparty
Aug 27 2007, 9:05 pm
There are a lot of ways how you can end an email or a letter, and one of them is with "Liebe Grüße". At first I thought this was a real informal way of saying regards, but it seems like it's a normal thing because I receive these endings in business mails as well. I have seen the abbreviation "LG" as well, in the assumption it's the same...? To me this sounds really weird to end an email with to a colleague, business partner or customer, because if I would translate this to my own language literally, this would by far not be appropriate!
MonksTown
Aug 27 2007, 9:07 pm
You open in English by saying "Dear" don't you though...
I really thing "Liebe Grüße" has no place in business e mails though some of the girlier colleagues use it.
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 9:10 pm
I agree with MT, I would never use LG in a business e-mail. I only use it with friends. To me it is similar to writing "Love Mariposa" at the end of a message and I would never write that to a business partner either. However, I guess, it has become so commonly used that to some people it may have lost the real meaning.
dimmer
Aug 27 2007, 9:10 pm
It's totally a girly thing, don't use it unless you also favour pink underwear and wear lipstick.
Starting an email or a letter with 'Liebe XXX,' is more acceptable for both sexes. It is pretty informal, though.
sea-king
Aug 27 2007, 9:11 pm
Try this!!
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
It´s the offical one!
bluedave
Aug 27 2007, 9:11 pm
I think it's used in a situation where you have exchanged mails for a while or is from someone from a marketing dep't trying to seem to be your friend.
I once sold something on
ebay to a "Jessyca", who signed mails "Liebe Grüße". It's definitely a girly thing.
The name on the ebayer's bank account? Helmut.
Still, he paid me, so what did I care?
sparty
Aug 27 2007, 9:22 pm
QUOTE (sea-king @ Aug 27 2007, 10:11 pm)

Try this!!
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
It´s the offical one!
That's what I use all the time, but I get the "Liebe Grüße" back...
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 9:23 pm
I do not think it is that girly, I would not find anything weird in a guy using it anyway.
bluedave
Aug 27 2007, 9:24 pm
Are you serious Mari? I would be a little worried to get that from another guy tbh
sparty
Aug 27 2007, 9:26 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Aug 27 2007, 10:24 pm)

I would be a little worried to get that from another guy tbh
Me too, that's why I started this post...
MonksTown
Aug 27 2007, 9:27 pm
Yeah, the only time I've ever had it from a guy in an e mail was from a screaming puff and not for work.
A guy and a girl might use it if they are quite close, like you say "SÜPI" some times.
bluedave
Aug 27 2007, 9:28 pm
Ok, i have to ask though i'm scared of the answer, what does suepi mean?
QUOTE (Mariposa @ Aug 27 2007, 10:23 pm)

I do not think it is that girly, I would not find anything weird in a guy using it anyway.
Maybe from a guy to a girl, if he was sharking...
sea-king
Aug 27 2007, 9:32 pm
It´s a German form of "Super" and really gets on my tits SÜPI! . or in English SOOPI !
MonksTown
Aug 27 2007, 9:35 pm
SÜPI!
And its always that camp and emphasised is girly office talk for super.
eg: Girly colleague: Can you get this to the customer by Monday morning?
Me: If goes ex Hong Kong today and doesn't get stuck in customs in Holland over the weekend then yeah probably.
Girly Colleague: Oh SÜPI ! Liebe Grüsse!
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 9:36 pm
I have never even heard Süpi (Supi, yes, but not the one with the umlaut), maybe you need to associate with less girly girls.
MonksTown
Aug 27 2007, 9:37 pm
Maybe my employer needs to recruit some hunky lads to work in customer service.
sea-king
Aug 27 2007, 9:38 pm
You´d like that!
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 9:39 pm
Can't blame him. I would too.
bluedave
Aug 27 2007, 9:39 pm
Now extremely glad i didn't know that .
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 9:42 pm
QUOTE (bluedave @ Aug 27 2007, 10:24 pm)

Are you serious Mari ? I would be a little worried to get that from another guy tbh
Hmm, maybe from a guy to a guy it would be different. I'm not sure, never thought about it. But then if a guy ends a letter to me with "Love xy" (and he is just a friend) I wouldn't find that weird but I guess from a guy to another guy it would be weird, sooooo... maybe it is a bit too much for a guy to write LG in an e-mail / text message / whatever to another guy.
sparty
Aug 27 2007, 9:45 pm
Yes, I hear "Supi" (not Süpi) all the time as well, it's annoying...
Punchbear
Aug 27 2007, 11:07 pm
I've always understood there to be three grades of sign-off, the "mfG" for business and people you don't know personally, then in business "viele Grüsse" is a slightly warmer and informal sign-off among colleagues and outside of work for people you know but not all that well. "Liebe Grüsse" is for people you are on informal and friendly terms with, personal correpsondence and the like, under certain circumstances with colleagues you regularly socialise with outside of work.
Dostoyevsky
Aug 27 2007, 11:20 pm
xoxoxo
Punchbear
Aug 27 2007, 11:23 pm
Led Zeppelin?
Mariposa
Aug 27 2007, 11:30 pm
Mr Punch, there is also "Gruß, XY" which is less formal than MfG but still somewhat formal-ish. I would use it when writing to my supervisor at work and my professors also tend to use it when writing to me. I am always a bit surprised when I write a professor an all formal e-mail because I don't want to seem rude (so I tend to write Sehr geehrter Professor Soundso, yadda yadda yadda, MfG Mariposa), and then get a very informal message back (Liebe Frau Mariposa, and even once one addressing me with my first name... and at the end Gruß, XY).
I don't mind of course, I just wish there was some kind of code where you know if you write it a little more informal, it'll still be fine, but you don't know with all profs.
Punchbear
Aug 27 2007, 11:41 pm
Aye, I've had that too with more senior colleagues and clients, they jump into the "Grüß" sign-off, where I'd normally wait for a second correspondence signed off in a similarly light manner and reply in kind.
dimmer
Aug 27 2007, 11:46 pm
The higher ranking monkey decides when to say 'Du' and when to start emails with 'Liebe® XXX'.
That easy. If you're self-employed, client is higher ranking monkey regarding communication style.
Starting out formal is always good.
boomtown_rat
Aug 27 2007, 11:59 pm
I get Viele Liebe Grüße from the secretary sometimes but maybe she does that with everyone
I think Ive had Liebe Grüße from the (male) boss sometimes too who I'm on pretty good terms with
On the scale thing there is also Gruß or Grüße after mfG
MollyB
Aug 31 2007, 9:44 am
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Aug 28 2007, 12:59 am)

I get Viele Liebe Grüße from the secretary sometimes but maybe she does that with everyone
Are you hunky?
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