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Salary expectations, Germany vs. USA

How much to earn for a good standard of living?

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Switched
Hi Everybody Wife got a job in Germany. I have to find a job - dah
Could you be so kind to tell me what salary is good to have a great standard of living? In USA the dollars paid are good - he and pple spend. I hear the Euros paid suck. One day one may want to come back to America. What is a good salary to earn in Germany - so when back in the US one has a good standard of living, good investments, does not feel like they should have stayed in America yada yada... In the USA easy now to get a salary of US $160k. What is that equivalent to in Germany - not exchange rate but salary wise -. What does Euros50K, 65K, 75K, 85K or 100K mean or do? What lines of professions are paid very well. Can't find all this info on the net. I know it seems an open question - please help.
Thank you all.
Conquistador
Switched, I know that each person has a different set of work experience, skills and education, but I find it unlikely that it is correct to make the general statement " it is easy to find jobs in the US making $160,000." If, for you, it is easy to find such a job, you probably are a doctor, a lawyer, an investment banker, or a top manager, and most people would advise a person doing that well in the US to stay there, all other things being equal.

You might find the following useful: Salary levels for various jobs in Germany

Salary survey for Germany

One other thing, when converting from dollars to euros, I suggest using 1.12 dollars per euro, which The Economist posits is the Purchasing Power Parity rate between the two currencies.
eurovol
QUOTE (Switched @ Jul 23 2007, 4:52 am) *
In the USA easy now to get a salary of US $160k.

Thanks for the early morning laugh and making me spit my coffee.
Switched
Conquistador - Thank you very much. This is very helpful.
Lupo
"t is easy to find jobs in the US making $160,000."...do you work for Halliburton or something?
irismason
Lupo, You cannot get 160 000 when you hang around beer. When was the last time you looked for a job in the US? I am sure during the internet depression. Nearly all American corporate companies pay 160k to many folks.You sound like you do not know where you come from. Capitalist – running away from your shadow. Forget Halliburton. It pays many times 160K. FYI, many companies here in Germany are paying 85k and up to many including Americans who do not know German. You may want to go back to the US. Why not answer the question of the topic and ease out. Be professional and we can help each other in this forum.
Lupo
Your thoughts betray you. Take a look at the census if you want to get an idea of US income statistics.
irismason
dude, census vs reality you do not know the difference. get educated.
Lupo
Ha ha.
irismason
you are just not capable of answering the question in the topic. If you knew something at least...
Keydeck
Clear and correct English appears to be a concept which is alien to this thread. If the original poster would post something that actually makes sense then it might result in some useful replies.

QUOTE (Switched @ Jul 23 2007, 4:52 am) *
Could you be so kind to tell me what salary is good to have a great standard of living?

This nonsense again. Unless you give a clear and sensible idea of what you consider to be a "great standard of living" then the question is like a broken pencil, pointless. A beggar from the streets of Bangalore might consider a 25qm apartment in Neuperlach Sud with €17.53 spending money per week to be a great standard of living. Someone else might require a penthouse apartment with jacuzzi and a chauffeaur-driven Bentley to be essential for a "great standard of living". Give decent information or else you can only expect to get crap back.

QUOTE (Switched @ Jul 23 2007, 4:52 am) *
In USA the dollars paid are good - he and pple spend. I hear the Euros paid suck.

My reading comprehension lets me down here. What in the name of George Bush's left gonad does 'he and pple spend' mean?

QUOTE (Switched @ Jul 23 2007, 4:52 am) *
In the USA easy now to get a salary of US $160k.

In certain sectors, with certain levels of experience or with certain education levels it might, I repeat might, be easy to get this salary. As a general statement and without any information to qualify or back it up it's simply bollocks.

QUOTE (Switched @ Jul 23 2007, 4:52 am) *
I know it seems an open question - please help.Thank you all.

Open? Really? It doesn't just seem an open question, it's more open than a Ukranian hooker's legs. How in the name of all that's good and holy can you possibly expect to get any useful information at all if you are not going to ask questions properly and provide the necessary background information to both support whatever claims you are making and allow people to understand exactly what it is that you are trying to find out.

IrisMason, this last sentence is just for you. Please to be English speaking before you be telling to get educated*.

*for the cerebrally challenged, that last sentence was written poorly on purpose
Lupo
Textbook case of a troll. I´d say.
eurovol
And his wife.
Lavender Rain
Could the apparent status of his writing be the reason why his wife got the job? ph34r.gif
irismason
sorry Keydeck. it is not me who wrote that question
iain
I am tempted to say something to carry on in a crude direction but I shan't. I think if switched wants his question answered he might just have to put forward some information. It might help to know where in germany you are planning to go and what the hell it is that makes you so much money.
eurovol
I would like to know if it is so easy to find a 160k job, does either of these nutters have one of those so easy to find high paying jobs?
irismason
Switched, 65K is good. US is a money making machine. Germany hmmn yes but not for salaries. If you plan to go back to America it is tricky unless you have good Trust Fund or you are making some cash. 45K would not be good for that. Remember most Americans who are here are not from poor families. Many have old money. They come for adventure and stuff. Some yeah for self imposed asylum.
eurovol
Bad, meet worse. rolleyes.gif
iain
I would actually like to assert that one can actually make some good money hanging around beer, you just have to do the right hanging around beer. I would like to know where you get your information or experience to back up our statement irismason.

@irismason: actually I just want to know where you get your experience thats some interesting stuff your throwing around.
irismason
iain, which one of my statements?
eurovol
All your statements as of yet are pure hogwash.
Allershausen
I'm really enjoying reading this! There's nothing on TV worth watching, so what could be better than reading about two people, who well maybe the same person, claiming they can earn $160,000 a year with the English skills of a 6 year old.
Keydeck
QUOTE (Allershausen @ Jul 23 2007, 9:20 pm) *
who well maybe the same person

My thoughts exactly.
Lupo
I agree this is entertaining. There´s also a negative undertone trying to categorize us expats us antiquated, out of touch, rich, and I bet the next step is unpatriotic. Hence I said that your thoughts betray you Irismason - because it seems you have no clue what you´re talking about.
irismason
well not all expats are like that.
iain
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 7:58 pm) *
Lupo, You cannot get 160 000 when you hang around beer. When was the last time you looked for a job in the US? I am sure during the internet depression. Nearly all American corporate companies pay 160k to many folks. You sound like you do not know where you come from. Capitalist – running away from your shadow. Forget Halliburton. It pays many times 160K. FYI, many companies here in Germany are paying 85k and up to many including Americans who do not know German. You may want to go back to the US. Why not answer the question of the topic and ease out. Be professional and we can help each other in this forum.

um so breweries aren't corporations? Go do some research! I actually know some people working for haliburton and 160k is not the norm no matter how inflated their stories might get. I think Lupo knows exactly where he comes from. I think you get fantasy and reality mixed up (where is father ted when you need him.)

QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 8:25 pm) *
dude, census vs reality you do not know the difference. get educated.

erm hold on know census versus reality? once again knowing that person you are questioning is highly educated and following the statement you make I think it may be you who might need some reality.

QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 9:13 pm) *
Switched, 65K is good. US is a money making machine. Germany hmmn yes but not for salaries. If you plan to go back to America it is tricky unless you have good Trust Fund or you are making some cash. 45K would not be good for that. Remember most Americans who are here are not from poor families. Many have old money. They come for adventure and stuff. Some yeah for self imposed asylum.

you really think the only people that make it over here are rich adventure types who may or may not be eccentric, leaving the poor masses back in the americas? blink.gif wow I need some of those drugs.
irismason
but i really have a good clue in what I am talking about. do not get that wrong though.
BirdBrain
I find it somewhat curious that my response "Must be 160k in Pesos" got deleted for being "rude and not helpful"...yes VERY curious considering some of the other comments still here.
astro_rabbit
Keydeck, what is wrong with Neuperlach Sud?
iain
post it again and see what happens biggrin.gif
eurovol
Talking shit doesn't require drugs, just a warped mind. wink.gif
Keydeck
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 9:30 pm) *
but i really have a good clue in what I am talking about. do not get that wrong though.

Come on so, I'm intrigued. Let's have some back up for your gibberish. Give.

QUOTE (astro_rabbit @ Jul 23 2007, 9:32 pm) *
Keydeck, what is wrong with Neuperlach Sud?

All things considered nothing much, I just needed somewhere to include in the sentence which is considered to be at the lower end of the Munich property market in terms of value.

QUOTE (iain @ Jul 23 2007, 9:29 pm) *
I think you get fantasy and reality mixed up (where is father ted when you need him.)

Here ya go wink.gif

eurovol
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 9:30 pm) *
but i really have a good clue in what I am talking about. do not get that wrong though.

No, you really don't. Not even close.
irismason
QUOTE (iain @ Jul 23 2007, 8:29 pm) *
um so breweries aren't corporations? Go do some research! I actually know some people working for haliburton and 160k is not the norm no matter how inflated their stories might get. I think Lupo knows exactly where he comes from. I think you get fantasy and reality mixed up (where is father ted when you need him.)
erm hold on know census versus reality? once again knowing that person you are questioning is highly educated and following the statement you make I think it may be you who might need some reality.
you really think the only people that make it over here are rich adventure types who may or may not be eccentric, leaving the poor masses back in the americas? wow I need some of those drugs.

A census is a census. We know that. Where do u place your self in the census. I am sure you know whether you are from east Hampton or one who was left to eat the grass during Katarina. Wherever you lie in the spectrum look ay yourself and other expats. Do not cheat your brains.

Yes American do leave the poor masses back in America. We are that selfish. Did you take one? We know that. Wake up!

hey talked about American companies therefore Am. Breweries are included not German. Hali cannot pay everyone 160k
Keydeck
There's a new tagline right there...

Toytown Germany
Do not cheat your brains.
eurovol
You can't even write bad English like an American. So, what 160k job do you have?
Carm
I think I need a translator for that post! blink.gif
iain
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 9:44 pm) *
Yes American do leave the poor masses back in America. We are that selfish. Did you take one? We know that. Wake up!

hey talked about American companies therefore Am. Breweries are included not German. Hali cannot pay everyone 160k

wow I would totally come back with a kick ass come back and such and we could continue but I really cannot make to much sense out of what you are saying.

as for hali I thought you said 160 or multiple figures of that are the norm?
irismason
u kind of read everyday English like a Harvard nerd does. can't figure out what irony about cheat your brains mean. American English is kitchen English anyways.
Keydeck
I'm out. It's hurting my eyes.
irismason
If anyone wants a 160k job in America feel free to email me. I can explain. But I really cannot explain it on a thread which has gone biserck. Also try Switched. I know there are jobs like this for sure.
mere
not to instigate things further, but i could defo use a 160k job. please let me know how to go about getting one and what the requirements are.
i'm serious. my stupid BA is getting me no where fast as is my job.
eurovol
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 10:03 pm) *
If anyone wants a 160k job in America feel free to email me. I can explain. But I really cannot explain it on a thread which has gone biserck. Also try Switched. I know there are jobs like this for sure.

Run for your lives, its AMWAY!
Lupo
I´m punching out as well.
irismason
QUOTE (mere @ Jul 23 2007, 9:04 pm) *
not to instigate things further, but i could defo use a 160k job. please let me know how to go about getting one and what the requirements are.
i'm serious. my stupid BA is getting me no where fast as is my job.

sent you a message. got it?
Allershausen
QUOTE (mere @ Jul 23 2007, 10:04 pm) *
not to instigate things further, but i could defo use a 160k job. please let me know how to go about getting one and what the requirements are.
i'm serious. my stupid BA is getting me no where fast as is my job.

Well for a start you're going to have to downgrade your English writing skills, that post was far too coherent!
Sinderbox
QUOTE (irismason @ Jul 23 2007, 10:03 pm) *
If anyone wants a 160k job in America feel free to email me. I can explain. But I really cannot explain it on a thread which has gone biserck. Also try Switched. I know there are jobs like this for sure.

I must say that although English is not my mother tongue, to me, the type of brokenness of irismason's English sounds exaclty the same as the one from Switched. Suggestively, irismason is a new user that just "Joined: Today, 7:49 pm" as soon as Switched (who "Joined: Today, 3:41 am") got some criticism in a post "Today, 5:45 pm".

I think the circumstantial evidence is strong enough smile.gif
irismason
Well I see, some people are still stuck up with the English thing. They can't get over it. They are just chat addicts without much to contribute. If one sees their posts one can tell. After all their German sucks. Maybe they should perfect their German and make us Americans proud of knowing more languages because as someone said "census'. if we go by census then no American knows 2 languages.
mere
yes, i received it. thank you.
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