Breakdown of a German/American relationship

Wow. This post has really lost the plot. Excellent. However, it has distractied me from work for the last 15 minutes trying to get my head around how the thread has progressed, if that is the right word. It started out being about understanding a boyfriend's behaviour. I have not got the foggiest ideen what it has mutated into. Thank you. I can now give 'gute Zeiten schlechte Zeiten' a miss this evening.

oh by the way, can someone enlighten me on what the comment about British table manners was about? Is there something I don't know about how I hold a knife and fork??

Zing! Curious 22, I'm over here *waving*. Before you start throwing insults you should aim at your target. I live in Munich, yes, but I am American. Born in Germany, raised from the age of 5 by my American mother in the States. I even have the passport. So, no, I wasn't taught British English. I do still think it's English, though. Don't you? And table manners: well, the nice American kids made sure to make fun of me for holding my knife and fork the German way when we first moved back to the States. They were 5. How old are you?

You say your spelling may be off? How on earth is "haben" a misspelling of "Haus"? Oh, and "misch lieblings" actually means "mix darlings". I suppose you were trying to spell "mich Lieblings" which means "to me, darlings" -- and my guess is you meant "meine Lieblinge", "my darlings", but you were just off. Admit it, you have zero German skills.

Your English skills may be okay (even though you don't want to admit the language comes from ENGLAND), but your logical thinking and personality are severely lacking. I don't believe I criticized anything you did with your boyfriend on this thread. But all I can say is, he must be an idiot to be together with you.

Now, go flounce again.

Considering her skills with recognising nationalities, I think you'll find that Curious' boyfriend/lover/husband/cock_on_a_stick is actually an American male, who once visited Germany, mentioned it in conversation, and she's been confused ever since.

How come I'm only reading this now? Wtf? I completely missed this car crash.

You only see what you know, and you are obviously not a student of the sublime art of darts sans panties.

Nor a master of waffle avec merde de taureautard. It's like each response was a blog.

As I figured, not even in Germany and most likely made the whole story up. Back to the nude darts. At least that has entertainment value.

I keep going back to the first page and trying to read the original post, but I just can't get through it! Anyone got lots of time on their hands who could edit it?

attention-seeking spooky American woman is jealous when her German partner's young attention-seeking GErman niece comes to visit, so much so the OP suggests game of naked darts for the three of them.

In the directors cut you get extra nipple rings.

At least we don’t live in fear like everyone does in the States. I stopped once at a beach just south of Atlantic City and was wondering if it was a private beach or not and so I jogged over to ask a guy who was just returning from buying his morning paper. To my surprise he looked back over his shoulder at me terrified and then he ran as fast as he could to his nearby condo. Next time you play darts you should ask to play in goal.

pretty much nailed it I'd say

No doubt because you forgot you were in the English Gardens, and you were nude sporting nothing but a boner and a cheap pair of sandals.

Probably carrying a dart as well.

@BBJohnyD: Hey, just because there's an idiot or two from the States posting online doesn't mean you have to have a go at ALL of us. And maybe the guy who ran was in the Mafia and expecting a hit. Don't generalize.

Oooh, or better yet, he was probably a German tourist who thought you were a terrible American gangster. Were you wearing baggy jeans, by any chance? Wearing a baseball cap? That might lead them to think you have a baseball bat, which you are planning to use to beat up foreigners...

It is dangerous to run in cheap sandals and I have a large beer gut that completely overhangs and covers my boner when I stand.

Maybe it was the sight of a naked American woman with her naked German boyfriend and his naked obese German niece (with a nipple ring) playing sand darts behind you.

@curious
I can't believe that I just spent so much time to read through all your drivel. Against my better judgement I did not stop after the first 4 lines of your rant.Umberto Eco is easier to read then your crap. Some of your comments just made me wonder:


I agree that our anniversary was about he & I which is why I couldn't understand him spending the entire day at her side shopping (while I waited with my mother in the area with other bored husbands & gramps) for her to finish this shopping. Of course to do so would mean the day wouldn't be "all about her" therefore, instead of making the day about my mother (as intended).


First you complain that the niece was intruding into "your" anniversary celebration and then you are bringing your mother along to make it about her?
What is wrong with you? I would rather kill myself by slicing my wrists with a dull knife before I would bring my mother in law to any kind of anniversary (yes she is USanian and from the South)


I find it amazing how one cannot say anything nice (or anything at all) during a proposed anniversary toast by my mother


It does not baffle me at all after reading through your rants and your helpless attempts to be whitty in the german language. I can just picture the situation with you and your mother there toasting eachother...


I'm certainly not stupid OR crazy


I was on the fence with this one for a while and thought you might just need professional help for being overly jealouse and a bitch, but his gem:


wis ze big German man an ze next "GovaNata of Cal i FORnia


made it all clear to me, you are plain stupid! Arnie is from Austria and not a german you moron. This whole "victim" post turned soure quickly after your real hatefull, intollerant and racist american personality showed it's ugly self in a few more inane rants.
Maybe you should take your medicine like the doctor said ( you know the one that told you about the alpha female) and chill out before the nice men with the white sneakers and the funny jacket ring your doorbell again and give you a ride to the house where the doors only open from the outside...

P.s. One last advice,you should take this test:http://www.fuali.com/test.aspx?id=dd4c0ca6-a554-4cbe-b0e7-bc17462a412e

does your "husband" use yahoo? http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index...25040754AATxQsf

am i the only one who is still confused as to why naked darts would be suggested?
if you think something not right is going on with this girl or that she's up to something why would you do that? either way why would you do that with your boyfriend's niece?
you can't blame the niece when things go array with your own activity suggestion and say she and the boyfriend have issues when you're the one suggesting you all strip down and then have a problem later with it (your own suggestion).

Me too, Mere.

My guess would be that either (a) the poster wanted to write something to spice their whole makey-up story up a little, is completely bonkers and that was what she/he/it came up with or (b) the story is true and she is just completely bonkers.

Either way he/she/it is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

Thank god it wasn't naked fire juggling, singed hair is just so...unerotic, unlike darts.

the naked darts thing does pave the way for lots of double entrendre-esque banter...double top, bulls-eye, outer-ring etc.

I think naked pool or snooker could be a quite interesting game though.

How about nude American bowling? Way better than, say, chess.

Without doubt naked leapfrog is an exiting past-time. Always livens up a boring family party. Some people get really stuck in.

naked badmiton. it'll give a whole new meaning to whacking a shuttlecock.

Ah come on now, hasn't anyone ever played strip darts!

well we've given Curious22 a lot of new ideas for nudey sport activities, she'll have to invite the hot young niecey over, they can have their own little nudey olympics. sure she'll let us know how they all got on (she likes to type)

@curious22


Honey that is exactly your problem, the poor chap you like to call your "husband" hasn't given you a good boinking in a while and instead mounted his niece which made your hormonaly imbalanced self extremly jealouse.


Even worse you were desperate enough to go online and ask for advice from someone after you obviously do not have any friends in real life...
maybe you should talk with your mother after you seem to bring her along all the time.

Alright, alright, if you're going to be that way I'll let you wrestle in orange jello. But just this once, next time it's back to lime.

I read the entire first paragraph post and then the second response from Curious22. This sentence in the second post tells all ..if you think about it.

Someone is being dishonest. Curious, your post is seething with jealousy. You may not want to admit it and you may continuing projecting your own jealousy onto your boyfriends neice but jealousy is exactly what your entire post is about. You are just as jealous of her as she is of you.

However, NO woman would find herself jealous of a GROSSLY overweight, peirced, naked neice.

So, Etwas stimmt nicht, Leute.


Or maybe, the girl just wanted YOUR approval somehow. IF she truly is so overweight, then maybe you looking great was difficult for her. As an adult, you could try to see things that way.

Instead, you are extremely angry, your post are bitter..I half expect you to start spitting nails. Perhaps it was YOU who could have behaved differently.


I changed my mind, you're not an adult, you're a child and incredibly simple minded. Which is why you didn't notice that the neice was craving your approval as well and that there is a time to retreat and let children be children. Of course, if your still playing in the sandbox yourself...

I think she wanted to prove a point by doing it, hoping that they would admit they are not comfortable with that much nakedness, and thus validating her feeling uncomfortable with the niece being naked around the house and then being like "see, you are not really comfortable with it either." However, this went horribly wrong. I guess she thought no one in their right mind would play naked darts with their niece...

curious22, please stop butchering the German language. It is really not pretty. And I really hope you realize one day how ridiculous you make yourself look with your replies. The only person who is attention-seeking here is the one you see when you look in the mirror.

I don't have time to summarize the post as I've spent so much time reading the replies.

But here is my best advice:
Make a visit to the nearest US pediatric shrink, being sure to bring a copy of the original post in hand, and describe your difficulties reading through it. Hopefully you will get a prescription for the latest ADD drug. Take 3 times the amount prescribed and just maybe, you'll be able to read it.

Short of that, there must be someone who can step up to the challenge . . .
I know, Punchbear!

This was from the Thread which apparently prompted this entire bizzare saga..


Apparently I am..even now virtually they come... well, only one so far, but that is enough. The helpdesk is now closed.


Did not know the definition of the above, so I looked it up

"One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. " Sounds like the OP

Its easy for me to want to reach for understanding until hateful and ignorant words are used in regards to other cultures, races, etc...
So, truly, how can one "help" someone like that. And if she hates german people so much and the german culture, then what must her boyfriend think?
Personally I think he left her, otherwise she would not say such hateful and rediculous things being that he is German.

I saw my name in one of her posts, but quite frankly I can't read them due to the retinal bleaching they cause...

No way José, that BLOCK of text made me dyselxic. I've tried to start reading it, but each time my eyes yawn and I find myself on the street, feeding birds out of my hand.

LOL, you guys really are good sports!

Let's see...here's an interesting one -




That's a good thing...now that Hitler is dead, you CAN relax. We kicked your ass, get over it...plus, we continue to give your our leftovers. Although I hear that in some German bars you can still get a free drink on Hitler's birthday!

The poor guy was just trying to start his day with the morning paper (probably to read more about why he should live in fear, lol) so when you approach him to ask if it's a private beach, he assumes you're about to take your clothes off & frolick about in the sand. Therefore, OF COURSE he looked at you weird because that's not NORMAL here. I can relate to him b/c the last thing I wanted to see while eating breakfast was a naked body - especially of a family member. For Christ's sake, on the beach, you're only required to wear swim trunks! Would a simple pair of trunks cramped your style? Really, no matter how proud you are of your member - we don't want to see it (unless of course we plan on having sex with you). I guess the reason us "stupid" oh, & "lazy" Americans continue to associate nudity with sex is because until everyone starts having sex with their clothes ON, well, hey - what are we supposed to think? I'm sure someone will tell me, lol.

Just so I'm not misunderstanding you, if you happened to mean "private" as being someone's personal "beach," well, we don't have that. Some extremely wealthy Americans own homes on the beach (or their own islands, but typically not in the States), but it's just the land in which their home sits upon. Thus, I can promise you that if you were on privately owned land - your access would've been restricted to begin with so you wouldn't have been there.

Btw, I'm not at all "racist" and I LOVE Germans...especially the one that's still with me, lol - no, he hasn't left - that's a funny one. In fact, plenty of Germans have been guests in my home. It's inappropriate behavior I have a problem with, primarily insecure women (of ALL ages). I don't think she was seeking my approval (as she'd accquired that long before her visit), but even so, upon her arrival she knew she had my approval, my respect, and hospitality. I did take her feelings into consideration plenty of times and therefore was accommodating to them, but if someone is jealous, there is nothing you can do. First, few will admit jealousy so therefore the more you do to accommodate their feelings...well, the worse their behavior becomes, because they have no justifiable means to be nasty to someone who is being nice.

Someone explained it quite well about the darts. I had NO intention of doing that & the point of it was...well, to make the point. Not about nudity being comfortable, but the fact that they'd said how normal it was (and yes, normal even to play nude darts). Of course not believing a word of this, I made the challenge. Not only did I not expect it to happen, muchless engage in it, but did to make my point. Of course my boyfriend called my bluff since he KNEW the point I was making, but chose to minimize it to justify their statements of "normalcy." This backfired in his face when I mentioned it would be ok to play nude with her parents or anyone else for that matter.

Have to say, I am curious about who the real Joolie is , but not at all about curious22.

Curious22, there you go again, shooting off from the hip about Germans. You DO realize most people on this forum aren´t German? And those who are most certainly don´t celebrate Hitler´s birthday. Maybe his death day.

Thanks for not attempting any German.

can't believe this thread is still going!

edit- looking forward to the curious/Eleanor Rigby jello wrestle.

Somwhere, deep in America, a Karmic black hole opened up ahundandnoonieone or so posts ago and is expanding.

I hear Jerry Springer is looking for people for his show; after dwarf fights, curious22 might have a ticket with Jerry.

You are a funny one Curious22. I tried over and over again to make the point above and you dismissed my contribution. But lo and behold you find solution in the situation by accepting people can have different perceptions about what was and was not going on... I'm glad to hear that you have sorted it out with your boyfriend/husband...

On a side point - your ramblings about Germany and the Germans make you sound like a uneducated and bigoted person... - if you didn't like some of the inconsiderated behaviour of your niece - why post such inane crap???

Stanford the smartarse vindicated...and still interested in Curious22 mental state and her life...

I (amongst others who read your stuff) sense a drug interaction. Your rants read like a tweaker, 10 seconds after doing a HUGE line.
Imagine that ranting and bitching vocal 24hrs a day? Being your "boyfriend" (or like you call him "husband") would bare only one question, who do you kill first? You or your mother...

Curious, sorry if this has already been asked (I've not read everything here), but has your boyfriend/husband read this thread? I for one would be very interested to know if he has or not, and what his reaction was. Do tell ...

Why stanford? I mean aren't there enough looney toons already closer by? Or are you caught in the non-drama of the thing?

I come back 'cause I'm surprised each time that this thread keeps going - someone take out the batteries. Already.

@zemonkey,

As for me I just think her ramblings are entertaining...it is amusing (horrifying) to think that she may bring this style of discussions with her bf/hubby. God help him if she does...

In the short time that I have to frequent TT at the moment, this thread has a surreal tint to it that appeals to my twisted side...

Stanford - outed...

I think we have to congratulate curious22 she has gone a long way from her first post. She has even figured out what that little 'return' button does. Remember people small steps.

entertaining...

ahhh alas...someone finally gets it. Thanks Stanford. Thanks for being a good sport throughout and having the common sense many here lack. Maybe they got wrapped up on the "stage" (not stooge, to the Einstein who made the comment) I was referring to & became completely oblivious to the fact that I deliberately jerked their chains BECAUSE it was so easy.

The only problem now though, is that you DO get it so therefore, I hope they don't label you crazy because you can relate or even worse, because you're smart enough to catch on.

I haven't given this topic attention in my personal life for quite some time, but you all CONTINUE to give my post attention - which proves you've nothing better to do and that to me is really sad because this isn't even worthy of the 2 pages you've given it, much less 10 pages.

I'm NOT a bigot. You just made yourselves easy targets and it became entertaining to watch your reactions, lol. Bottom line here - don't dish it out if you can't take it. Calling me a racist is the dumbest thing I've heard yet here. You know I've been with a German man for 2 years so how could I be? That would be about as effective as calling me a racist if I lived in the South and dated an African American.

Just because you SPEAK English on TT doesn't mean the majority isn't German. Isn't TT "Germany's English speaking crowd?" Sorry, that must also be too difficult for my cRaZy mind to comprehend. Me ears are bleeding...

It's been fun, but it's just plain boring now so I must leave your TT and return again to the real world. Choos! (oops sorry, I'm not supposed to slaughter your language anymore) - although I never claimed to speak/write German, but I believe English speaking/writing is a requirement on TT. Think about what you're saying & polish your English skills sweet pea.