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Musician Timbaland arrested in Cologne bar brawl

A German called him the N-word

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injured_ninja
Timbaland arrested in Cologne after fight

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Timbaland and his friends allegedly attacked a man outside Hotel Intercontinental late Sunday night after a Justin Timberlake concert. The argument allegedly started when a man named Robert F became visibly upset over his girlfriend talking to Timbaland. According to German reports, Timbaland then attacked the patron, "Robert F," after Robert called him the N word. The fight then moved moved from the lobby bar to the street in front of the hotel.

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Welcome to Germany Tim!
Keydeck
Must have been a nasty fight. They even pulled his trousers down!
Kat
Interesting. They said Timbaland was released on €750.- bail, but AFAIK, there is no concept of bail here.
Johnny English
Who? Does he make them hiking boots?
parnell
N word? Wot? "Nazi" ?
UrbanAngel
Since he's black, I presumed he was called a 'nigger' rather than a Nazi.
Keydeck
Aaargh, she said the 'n' word!!!
Johnny English
Brilliant UrbanAngel. You are an asset to the team. We were stuck for a moment there. My money was on him being called a "Ninny" but your suggestion sounds more likely.
parnell
Jehovah!
Yeti
Spokespersons report that the "N" gramatical construct used was "Nürnburger".
Elfenstar
that'll teach that white boy a lesson. Go Timbaland!
UrbanAngel
I checked Parnell's post for any trace of sarcasm but didn't find any, so deduced that he really must be that thick *sniggers* hence the helping hand tongue.gif
Hutcho
Reminds me of this excellent clip from South Park. Unfortunately not on youtube so couldn't embed.
Eleanor Rigby
QUOTE (UrbanAngel @ Jun 12 2007, 2:59 pm) *
I checked Parnell's post for any trace of sarcasm but didn't find any, so deduced that he really must be that thick *sniggers* hence the helping hand

I don't think it's necessarily that straightforward.

Since he's german he could just as easily have called him a neger, which in my, and most other germans, opinion is not the same thing.
Janx Spirit
QUOTE (Kat @ Jun 12 2007, 2:24 pm) *
Interesting. They said Timbaland was released on €750.- bail, but AFAIK, there is no concept of bail here.

There is, it's called Strafkaution "Ein Strafverdächtiger wird durch das Hinterlegen einer Kaution bis zur Gerichtsverhandlung aus dem Gewahrsam entlassen (§§ 116, 116a StPO)."
gideon
ER - Black Germans I've met and know aren't to over the moon about it though. But years of being called a negro along with the "my don't you speak good german" line or worse having that said in the third person to their partner has sort of given them a thick skin.
Kat
QUOTE (Janx Spirit @ Jun 12 2007, 4:07 pm) *
There is, it's called Strafkaution "Ein Strafverdächtiger wird durch das Hinterlegen einer Kaution bis zur Gerichtsverhandlung aus dem Gewahrsam entlassen (§§ 116, 116a StPO)."

Ah, thanks! I didn't know that. smile.gif So what is a bailbondsman called? Do they have bounty hunters?
GSF_UK
Anyone know if "Robert F" is actually German?
JerseyBoy
Serves "Robert F" right. You go Timbaland!!!
Sin
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Jun 12 2007, 4:04 pm) *
Since he's german he could just as easily have called him a neger, which in my, and most other germans, opinion is not the same thing.

I thought Parnell was Irish? unsure.gif
Wozuna
probably wrong here but, it was just one article and suddenly this Rob F is a KKK racist MoFo...seems everyone wants blood without knowing jack/nothing...hmm

I dont know Timberland or this Rob F, so ignore this crap...
parnell
I prefer to think of myself like "The Littlest Hobo" , so I'm from "around".
Sin
Yes. Thanks. We've all heard the rumours.
JerseyBoy
QUOTE (Wozuna @ Jun 12 2007, 4:53 pm) *
probably wrong here but, it was just one article and suddenly this Rob F is a KKK racist MoFo...seems everyone wants blood without knowing jack/nothing...hmm
I dont know Timberland or this Rob F, so ignore this crap...

I despise racism in all forms, whether it be hood-wearing KKK members to average Joe calling somebody a name because of their color. I've experienced it from the other side, i.e. somebody giving me crap for being middle-class white - it's not pleasant in any form.
Timmeh
Cracker
Keydeck
Baldy cracker!
JerseyBoy
Ok, let me rephrase - If I know that it's done in jest it doesn't bother me. wink.gif
Uncle Nick
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Jun 12 2007, 4:04 pm) *
I don't think it's necessarily that straightforward.

Since he's german he could just as easily have called him a neger, which in my, and most other germans, opinion is not the same thing.

A friend of mine (no not me!) once made the mistake of ordering a "Neger" (Cola & Weissbier) in a pub run by black Africans after which he was told to leave the establishment in unfriendly terms!
Uncle Nick
QUOTE (Uncle Nick @ Nov 24 2006, 5:34 pm) *
Rubbish - see previous discussion on the use of the word "Neger" e.g. "Bin ich dein Neger oder was?" used when decling to do a favour/chore for someone. "Am I your nigger or what" (i.e. slave). If that use is not considered "right off" I don´t know what is!
eurovol
I'll bet that Timbaland uses the word "Cracker" all the time.

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But me I got a love affair with all things Southern
The dirty is a territory y'all can't govern
We all ain't brothers, but this ain't the bitches neither
And all our rap songs ain't for bouncers drinkin either
Let me hit the reefer, 'fore I forgot to be the
Little old country white boy, get to spittin ether
Don't let this shit deceive ya, that cracker there crafty
I know you only heard me cause you have to stare at me (BITCH)
Wozuna
To jersey boy = totally agree with you, everyone knows or should know that all races / classes including whites receive rascism, someone did mention on this thread about teaching that white boy a lesson, but it was probably in jest as well. Britain has a new 60 & 100 meter sprinter on the scene, I cannot recall his name, he is a 20 yr old caucasian guy who mentioned many black sprinters telling him ' to go home white boy'.

I was just pointing out how one article (was it an american one?) created alot of immediate reactions without anyone knowing anything.
I read in a London paper that the guy was Croatian and got peeved when Timberland was hitting onto his girlfriend. Totally different scenario to what was posted here.

It just seems a bad reflection (on germany) that a 'scuffle' between a black person whom happend to be Timberland was put out in the press as racially orientated leading to the 'masses' believing it. When in fact it should be just taken as celebrity media, which is all questionable... as papers need to be sold.

To my own thread = yeah whatever!!!
stanford
QUOTE (Wozuna @ Jun 13 2007, 10:25 am) *
everyone knows or should know that all races / classes including whites receive rascism

It must be really hard being a British Aristocrat* with all that classism/racism around. Maybe the Dukes and Lords just put up with it by drawing up their draw bridges or closing the iron gates to their estates to keep out the racist masses!!!

Here's me thinking there was an hierarchy (i.e. Top and Bottom) in society a la the Monthy Python sketch...

* or the Elite class anywhere for that matter..
Katrina
QUOTE (Wozuna @ Jun 13 2007, 11:25 am) *
I read in a London paper that the guy was Croatian and got peeved when Timberland was hitting onto his girlfriend. Totally different scenario to what was posted here.

Is it ever acceptable to call someone a nigger?
Here's an article by DJ Spoony discussing that exact point in reference to UK Big Brother Emilygate.
gideon
Is it acceptable to call someone a negro? No. Its below the belt and meant to hurt and demeanour. 'tis fighting talk, whatever the situation. I cant believe in this modern world that people (usualy white) hide behind the but in our neck of the woods its meant as a term of endearment bullshit.
Gen
Found a new quote in the SZ Magazin a couple weeks ago that confirms that "Neger" is indeed inacceptable in German nowadays:

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Später erzählt Goldkettchen-Klaus erst einen Witz, in dem es um ein KZ geht, und dann noch einen mit »zwei Negern«, und an der Theke macht sich betretene Stille breit. Condor-Klaus sagt: »Lass mal gut sein jetzt«, und dann will auch Goldkettchen-Klaus’ Frau nach Haus, also aufs Boot, das vorn im Yachthafen liegt, da muss er mit.


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Later, gold chain-Klaus tells a joke about a concentration camp, then one with two "Neger", and everyone at the bar gets quiet. Condor-Klaus says "that's enough now", and gold chain-Klaus's wife wants to go home after that, to the boat, at dock in the harbor, and he has to go too.

Aus dem Magazin - 16.05.2007
Per Anhalter durch eine andere Welt
Wozuna
Jeeves, Draw up the bridges and close the Iron gates...and the gold ones for that matter!!!
Someone mentioned racists masses, twas not me! Also twas the good man himself whom had mentioned ' white middle class'

Please remind about the Monthy Python sketch..?

Tally ho
Katrina
It wasn't Monty Python, it was The Frost Report.
Class

Mully
I think it is downright wrong of this chap to have a name so similar to that of another established pop artist!
expat_J
whip that german's ass! Sounds like he was justified in clobbering the dieter, no sense in derogatory remarks.
hams
QUOTE (Yeti @ Jun 12 2007, 2:51 pm) *
Spokespersons report that the "N" gramatical construct used was "Nürnburger".

Dirty word in my book that's for sure. mad.gif
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